ThatDonGuy
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May 31st, 2017 at 10:05:57 AM permalink
They "could" set up a bet where you can profit if any number other than 0 or 00 shows up, and still have a house edge - for example, red and black both pay 101-100, but you have to bet a multiple of 100 to get those odds, so if you bet 100 on red and 100 on black, you win 1 18/19 of the time and lose 200 1/19 of the time (and betting on 0 and/or 00 simultaneously will not guarantee a profit), but it's probably easier, and "more traditional," to keep it the way it is.

Quote: klimate10

If you have the patience to find a wheel that has landed on red ten times in a row, and then lands on single or double zero, then subsequently lands on the OTHER zero right after, and then you bet on all the black numbers, it's a guarantee that you will have a very genuine probability of winning 75% of the next ten spins.

The math supports my statement, without a doubt.

The last time I looked, it is impossible to win exactly 75% of ten spins.

If you meant winning on at least 75% of the next ten spins, then there is a "very genuine probability" of that - it's "very genuinely" about 1/26.
klimate10
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May 31st, 2017 at 10:02:38 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

The last time I looked, it is impossible to win exactly 75% of ten spins.

It's absolutely possible.

Without googling it, what roulette bet has a 1.35% house edge?
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May 31st, 2017 at 10:12:10 PM permalink
I saw a video on YouTube about permutation in roulette by Charlie barley maybe he is telling the truth
RS
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May 31st, 2017 at 11:00:52 PM permalink
Quote: klimate10

It's absolutely possible.

Without googling it, what roulette bet has a 1.35% house edge?

It's that weird French thing I reckon. En prison or something wonky on single 0 roulette.
"should of played 'Go Fish' today ya peasant" -typoontrav
klimate10
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June 1st, 2017 at 12:23:09 AM permalink
Quote: RS

It's that weird French thing I reckon. En prison or something wonky on single 0 roulette.

French roulette with La Partage. French roulette can have either En Prison or La Partage.

It's called French roulette, but I've seen it in Vegas. So if negotiating with a host, always insist on La Partage over En Prison.

La Partage has a HE of 1.35%. With La Partage, you get half your bet back immediately.

En Prison has a slightly higher HE at 1.37%-1.38%, depending on number of imprisonment spins, but you either rescue or lose your whole bet (you lose slightly more than half your bet in the long run because the imprisonment spins are not 50/50).

FleaStiff
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June 1st, 2017 at 4:29:32 AM permalink
>So if negotiating with a host, always insist on La Partage over En Prison.
Sorry, but at my level of play I only get to negotiate with security guards inside the casino and spare change lugging passersby outside the casino.
ThatDonGuy
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June 1st, 2017 at 6:44:58 AM permalink
Quote: klimate10

It's absolutely possible.

Without googling it, what roulette bet has a 1.35% house edge?

The question has already been answered, although I will admit that I was not aware that any casinos in Vegas offered either La Partage or En Prison - I thought that the single-zero wheels were "all bets other than those including the 0 itself lose on 0."

Still, you can't "win" on exactly 7 1/2 spins. Winning half of a bet is not "winning on 1/2 a spin."

Quote: klimate10

The math supports my statement, without a doubt.

I will believe this mysterious math when I see it. Do you have any specific sources?
klimate10
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June 1st, 2017 at 7:33:17 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Still, you can't "win" on exactly 7 1/2 spins. Winning half of a bet is not "winning on 1/2 a spin."

...so you're a glass half empty kind of guy?

Btw, my entire initial paragraph was purposely nonsensical.
Last edited by: klimate10 on Jun 1, 2017
ThatDonGuy
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Thanks for this post from:
June 1st, 2017 at 8:13:45 AM permalink
Quote: klimate10

Btw, my entire initial paragraph was purposely nonsensical.

I'm too used to posters who make statements like that and insist that they're legitimate to make assumptions like that.

Besides - how do you explain that to someone who might be reading WoV for the first time, sees this "75% strategy," and takes it at face value?
FleaStiff
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