Gambling Career (Financial End)

Quote: Paigowdan

The LAST thing you want to do at a table is cause a problem and say, "Well! I'm a dealer or floorman at such-and-such casino, and let me tell you...yada yada yada...." .

On the dealer forums, Vegas dealers constantly
complain about floorman from other casinos
giving them a hard time. And thats exactly
what they say, I'm a supervisor at such and such
casino and we don't tolerate this or that. They
never seem to get in trouble, they come back
again and again and harass dealers.

I read awhile back a post by a dealer who told
a player he had to hit the back wall when
throwing the dice and the player said he didn't
know if he could. The dealer told him 'Heck,
my five year old can hit the back wall, I'm sure
you can do it'. The player cashed out, told the
shift manager what the dealer had said, and
the dealer was fired on the spot. Is that possible,
or is he making it up.

No, they get into trouble. And a lot of them have not figured it out.
Sure, some may try some grand-standing and showing-up of younger dealers, and get told, "you may be a floorman - but you ain't a floorman here, - and this ain't 'such-and-such' place." Then the real floorman comes over to announce that he's actually the floorman here, and it's his rules that are in effect.
Tell a dealer you've been a floorman for 40 years and you'll be told - "there's a reason for that."
And a lot of calls have been made to their bosses - which is the reason why they are floormen, - and not shift managers or casino managers. You will NEVER see a shift manager or TDG make a noisy stink at tables around town.
Believe me, if you're in this business for 40 years, and still a floorman at a $5 house, you really can't pull any weight, you're just posturing. It's like being in the Army for 40 years - and you're a staff sargeant.
There's a reason for it: you're being punished for behavior: openly branded "NOT executive material - never will be."

As for job security, you can be called into the office and fired for being a Catholic boy on a sunny day. For wearing a shoe the size of 9D. For having brown hair. For "I don't like the way you look." For, "I have it in for you." Of course, other technical reasons are cited on the termination form.
If you have an attitude problem, if you're frequently late or unreliable, if you make a lot of mistakes, you're in great danger.
If you're a competent Saint, neither are you totally safe. Unless you have $17,000 in checking, with more coming in.
You walk into work one day, and there are other people as your new coworkers, and no one says anything. Don't even look up.
It may be writing on the wall that's meant for you, too.
Being a career floorman or dealer at a $5 house is like being a career cab driver; it ain't Caesars. You got a one-bedroom apartment or a roommate you can't stand, a 7 year old car giving you trouble, or a new car that you're sweating the payments on, and when you get tapped off the game to "go to the office," you panic, you just shit.
Trust me, the last thing a dealer or floorman needs to do is cause ANY trouble at any other casino. They become "stuck" dealers or floormen - Louie DePalma of Taxi, for life in this business.

Quote: Paigowdan

..I know the math and the calories, but I don't always subscribe to the Vegetarian Way of gambling.

LOL. That is probably the way to live! Which is why side bets survive: "Its only a buck" is a good attitude to have sometimes.

>>>Macau? Sic Bo and the three sixes bet repeating three times is what reminds me of Macau, the film.

Quote: Paigowdan

It's like being in the Army for 40 years - and you're a staff sargeant.

The military is all about education now. You'll
never be an officer without a college degree,
and the more degrees you add, the higher
your rank will get. My son is adding a second
masters degree and will be a colonel soon.

Quote: EvenBob

The military is all about education now. You'll
never be an officer without a college degree,
and the more degrees you add, the higher
your rank will get. My son is adding a second
masters degree and will be a colonel soon.

And rising in this business, a college degree helps. UNLV has some good graduate programs in gaming/hospitality.

Bob, - excellent. I salute him and you, mean it. I was in the serice for six years, Army Field Artillery (13E), no regrets.

For either a sargeant or dealer, you'd think they seek out education and disciplined professional behavior, so they can rise to become a colonel or Shift Manager. Not for many, though. People in gaming, like in any other field, fall into minimal compliance "why bother to advance" mode.

I got my couch, my TV, my bottle, and some Doritoes when I get home, people say, and it's the same thing every day for too many people. "Go back to college?" "Gamble less, drink less, go out less, and cause less problems? - and study more? On my own time?"

Naah.....

And people will clock out and go home, to watch re-runs to Taxi, with Danny Devito ranting as Louie DePalma, and not see themselves. "Alex - you're in Cab #3 - and Frank - you're dealing BJ on BJ #7....."

Personally, I got scared....Forget about trying to get new games out....

Quote: Paigowdan

And rising in this business, a college degree helps. UNLV has some good graduate programs in gaming/hospitality.

One Vegas blogger left college during the first break and returned to his sales job in a hobby shop then wound up as a Vegas bartender and later a Vegas bellhop.
People who wind up as bell hops, cocktail waitresses, blackjack dealers and maids might make great executives, but nobody will ever find out.

True - but it's up to them to sell themselves, and to make themselves desirable. They don't stick it out, they don't get there.
Even without official papers, people can start businesses, patent ideas, write movie scripts on speculation on their PC's, play music in the garage or basement, etc.

EZ Pai Gow started out on a note pad, a deck of cards, and a TI calculator on my kitchen table four years ago. How I nursed it from there was a ton of work, while I DID have such a job, dealing. I missed a lot of re-runs.