Double Ball Roulette at Trop?

The Wiz mentioned on the radio show that double
ball roulette was opening at the Trop in Vegas in
Oct. Has anybody seen it there yet?

Quote: EvenBob

The Wiz mentioned on the radio show that double
ball roulette was opening at the Trop in Vegas in
Oct. Has anybody seen it there yet?

I haven't seen it there, but I saw the full demo at G2E. It was pretty interesting. Really wild odds on a few things; think there was a 1200:1 or 2000:1 bet up near the dealer for both balls landing in the same slot.

The button to launch the balls was portable; they can hand it to anybody, a player or whoever, to start the balls, which are staggered by about .5 seconds. The sound effect is customizable; they have it sounding like a hydraulic compression release, but it can say anything; has nothing to do with the mechanical release of energy.

The paytables are very dense, and the pays for some two-ball combinations are lower than I would have thought, but I can't quote them 3 weeks later. I'm sure you've looked at them in detail. I thought it was a fun variation on the game, and I hope they see some success.

In the UK there are a few double ideas based on having one wheel (essentially the slots where the ball with land) with the numbers while an inner section (spun by dealer in opposite direction from wheel) spins independently before locking in place. I've seen two versions - the first has 2 gold and 6 silver spots and pays 300 or 100 to 1 if your number comes in AND there's a dragon opposite (in Hippodrome London and at Coventry showcase) - the second has a second set of 0-36 so you can bet on either inner or outer set of numbers or both (I've only seen the demo at ICE). The 1200/1 comes from the ball landing in the number AND the number lining up on the inner wheel as well.

See http://www.ukcasinotablegames.info/roulettedoubleaction.html and http://www.ukcasinotablegames.info/roulettedragon.html

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Saw this game at downtown grand, no one playing. Given DTG's track record for table games management so far and how frequently they've changed things, they'll probably give it about two weeks before jumping to a conclusion.

I was travelling last week and saw a new bet in two casinos coming soon. It's based on the sum of two roulette spins and rather than using a double-wheel (or two spins) adopt a system of generating one of the random numbers (0-36) based on the speed of the ball (similar to http://www.ukcasinotablegames.info/rouletteluckysymbols.html ).

There are seven possible bets, using a range of totals, offering odds from 400-1 thru 1-1 (e.g. 71-72 = 400-1); it wasn't live but I guess the electronic screen works out the total. My concern, from a quick calculation, was how high the house edge was - for instance you can do your own [based on two spins of a normal wheel] 71-72 bet (exercise for the reader!) and get 431-1.

I think there's room for multiple spin bets (on an electronic machine) and an interesting idea to try and generate another random number (in the UK there are legal reasons why it has to be based on the physical ball rather than RNG) in an attempt to have larger odds. I didn't see Lucky Symbols at the Empire any-more and suspect the rent paid to have the electronics might prove too much for this bet as well.

I saw that when we were in London last year. Here is my analysis.

Quote: Wizard

I saw that when we were in London last year. Here is my analysis.

I was also getting figures over 10% for the new bets, which is why it probably won't last long. However you can never tell as the ur egalite bets are sometimes that much and proving popular. http://www.ukcasinotablegames.info/puntourwayegalite.html

Quote: EvenBob

The Wiz mentioned on the radio show that double
ball roulette was opening at the Trop in Vegas in
Oct. Has anybody seen it there yet?

I saw it at the Trop in 2014. I don't remember if people were playing it, and I haven't been back, so I don't know if it's still there.

Quote: charliepatrick

I was travelling last week and saw a new bet in two casinos coming soon. It's based on the sum of two roulette spins and rather than using a double-wheel (or two spins) adopt a system of generating one of the random numbers (0-36) based on the speed of the ball.

A random number, based on the speed of the ball? That seems somewhat contradictory...

Quote: mcallister3200

Saw this game at downtown grand, no one playing. Given DTG's track record for table games management so far and how frequently they've changed things, they'll probably give it about two weeks before jumping to a conclusion.

Downtown Grand seems to be a bit of an AGS house as they are one of the few that also has War BJ. If there is a relationship there, DT needs to add some of the better offerings from AGS like Open Stud Poker & 2 Card Poker. To me these have a much better chance of being winners vs. Double Ball & War BJ......but that is just one guy's opinion!

Quote: mcallister3200

Saw this game at downtown grand, no one playing..

No doubt. Most casual players don't
understand half the bets on a regular
table, why make it even more complicated.
All the time I see people bet all 3 dozens
at once and are delighted when they win
every time. I ask the dealers why they
don't tell the player he's betting a push,
and they just shrug their shoulders.

Sorry to wake up a sleeping thread but I discovered Double Ball Roulette at an Internet casino, based on a single-zero wheel. So, I totally revamped my page on the game to add the new rules.

Please click the link and have a new look. As always, I welcome questions, comments, and especially corrections.