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May 3rd, 2010 at 11:07:14 PM permalink
teddys
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That's the second time I've heard an unsolicited recommendation for the $29 prix fixe at Bradley Ogden. I may go over there next trip to blow some Total Rewards credits.
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May 4th, 2010 at 1:48:08 AM permalink
pacomartin
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Quote: teddys
That's the second time I've heard an unsolicited recommendation for the $29 prix fixe at Bradley Ogden. I may go over there next trip to blow some Total Rewards credits.


This $29 is only in the lounge (in the restaurant the Prixe-Fixe is $59). The lounge dinner is salad, burger or fish and chips, and cookies. It is cheap for a Michelin one-star restaurant, but it is pretty expensive bar food. We should repost under Ceasars if you want to continue discussing this restaurant.
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March 5th, 2011 at 3:49:55 PM permalink
dk
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Nick,

Just read your article on Aria. I was there the same weekend. FYI, the in-room safe is the bottom drawer of the nightstand between the beds (at least in the rooms with 2 queen beds).

Nice write-up.
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March 5th, 2011 at 4:46:07 PM permalink
FleaStiff
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Quote: pacomartin
I am listing the MGM properties in order of how much the hotel income dropped from 2008 to 2009. Income is not the same as "total revenue", this is how much the corporation is making after their expenses. Income is listed as "dollars per available room per day".

Does the table reflect the belief that one-third of rooms are comped?
If a room is bringing three dollars a day, one would think they would simply give the room away via a website reservation system and have one check-in clerk on duty per shift. If Circus Circus customers are using ice-chests and sandwiches does this mean they are problem gamblers or that even people on razor thin budgets still like to have a "vacation in Vegas" where they can splurge and buy a big bag of ice for the cooler?

According to my analysis of your math, each Baccarat table was bringing in almost fifty grand a week around opening time at the Aria. How does this compare with Big Baccarat tables at places such as Wynn or the Venetian?
Are figures available for a MiniBacc table at the Aria? Is there such a thing as a MiniBacc table at the Aria?

From what you describe, I see the Aria's rooms as totally irrelevant to Circus Circus via either direct or indirect market pressures.
March 5th, 2011 at 8:36:52 PM permalink
pacomartin
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Quote: FleaStiff

Does the table reflect the belief that one-third of rooms are comped?
If a room is bringing three dollars a day, one would think they would simply give the room away via a website reservation system and have one check-in clerk on duty per shift. If Circus Circus customers are using ice-chests and sandwiches does this mean they are problem gamblers or that even people on razor thin budgets still like to have a "vacation in Vegas" where they can splurge and buy a big bag of ice for the cooler?

According to my analysis of your math, each Baccarat table was bringing in almost fifty grand a week around opening time at the Aria. How does this compare with Big Baccarat tables at places such as Wynn or the Venetian?
Are figures available for a MiniBacc table at the Aria? Is there such a thing as a MiniBacc table at the Aria?

From what you describe, I see the Aria's rooms as totally irrelevant to Circus Circus via either direct or indirect market pressures.


1) No, the table does not represent the belief that 1/3 of rooms are comped.
2) The $3 is the revenue they are getting over and above expenses.
3) Aria baccarat tables were bringing in a million per week for the first two weeks. After that they dropped to around $50K.
4) Yes, most of the casinos with full size baccarat also have mini-baccarat. According to NGC publication 25 full size and 6 mini baccarat tables.
5) You are probably correct in saying that Aria's rooms are totally irrelevant to Circus Circus. There is an effect that they talk about where the people who used to stay at Circus Circus now stay at Excalibur, and the Excalibur people now stay at the Luxor, etc.
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March 19th, 2011 at 3:12:25 PM permalink
FleaStiff
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Quote: JB
This thread is to be used to discuss hotel accommodations at Aria.
Well, perhaps this is a tad bit off-topic but there was a bit of publicity about some Haymakers being thrown at Aria by notables from the LA "music" scene. I wonder if such publicity will hurt their bottom line for awhile or not.
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