BasesLoaded
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December 1st, 2016 at 11:44:49 AM permalink
Not having a Craps table is a buzzkill. Maybe if they don't fill up all the baccarat tables they can stick one over in the corner.
AxelWolf
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December 1st, 2016 at 12:17:36 PM permalink
Quote: Joeshlabotnik

Well, Axel, one of the reasons I stopped was that APs started getting greedy and were beginning to burn out plays as fast as they appeared. Descending on a newly opened casino and hoping to find and pounce on a mistake is an example of that--it draws too much attention. For a while, in the 90s, there were as many good plays as there were APs, at least it seemed. But you know what? We didn't abuse good plays. We didn't play something to death, we treated the employees right, we milked the cow instead of killing it. But soon there came a thundering herd of wannabe APs whose mentality was slash-and-burn.

It became a self-fulfilling prophecy. They all thought you had to leap on a play and devour it like a pack of starving wolves because it would be gone soon anyway. And that attitude hastened the very results they were trying to prevent.

An an example, I remember when the Bellagio opened. At first, they had HUNDREDS of bonusing slots. It was a freakin' candy store. Then some players started hovering at the ends of banks of those machines, When a ploppy got off a Cherry Pie or whatever, they would DASH for the seat--sometimes two or three at once. Also, if a ploppy had a few cherries to go but only a few credits left, they would stare at the player as if willing them to quit before they cashed in the bonus. They eventually became so obnoxious, between harassing customers and getting into fights among themselves, that management tossed them out--AND removed all but a few of the bonusing machines.

Today, there are a LOT of APs out there trying to divide up a very small pie. The AP world is dog-eat-dog now, and that attitude and mindset pretty much ensure that no good play will last long, Jump on it. Play it to death. Burn it out. Move along. No discretion, no self-control. And yeah, most of the APs I've encountered recently are jumpy, surly, temperamental, and generally no fun to be around. Probably the nature of the pursuit more than anything else.

Once again you missed 2 or 3 much better plays that were there. Net-Pay and Globe Shopping machines were much much better than the cherry pies, comming soons, Dimond mines, bonus spins etc etc, AKA the Vision machines.

The NP and GS were linked bonus banking machimes and you didn't have to stalk anyone or fight for machines, just quietly sit down and mind your own business. Quietly cash in your coins and repeat.

Had you been working AP right you would not have had to even mess around fighting over cherry pies, gems, and stuff like that. There was much better stuff going on that didn't require a significant amount of risk and BR like you suggested before. As soon as the word spread about various bonus machines it was time to move on. Perhaps during slow times or when passing by on your way to something good. Or go somewhere where they had little or no competition with higher denominations.

IMO from everything you have said about your plays, and AP examples you just didn't really know what the you were doing. You were playing Tic tac toe while others were playing checker, chess and poker, after 8 years of that I can see why you quit. You didn't move on or move up to different and or better things.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
UCivan
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December 1st, 2016 at 12:17:53 PM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

I see your point but bad example. None of those casinos specifically say they cater to one race of people over another. If Bellagio came out and said they only catered to Europeans, or Africans, non Europeans/Africans would wonder if they would feel comfortable there.

When a Chinese restaurant in Vegas specifically caters authentic Chinese food, do U think they treat non-Asians differently? Dollar is green. Having the Asian taste is their specialty which allows them to compete. (Could also be an EB-5 requirement.) Non-Asian can go there to enjoy the Macau / Singapore atmosphere, saving you an international trip. No fear to visit there. When U go to Chinatown to enjoy fine meals, U get the same hospitality, Asian or not. If u don;t feel comfortable to walk in a Chinese restaurant or a Mexican restaurant, then don't go gambling at Lucky Dragon / El Cortez (?).
Ayecarumba
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December 1st, 2016 at 1:35:30 PM permalink
Quote: UCivan

When a Chinese restaurant in Vegas specifically caters authentic Chinese food, do U think they treat non-Asians differently? Dollar is green. Having the Asian taste is their specialty which allows them to compete. (Could also be an EB-5 requirement.) Non-Asian can go there to enjoy the Macau / Singapore atmosphere, saving you an international trip. No fear to visit there. When U go to Chinatown to enjoy fine meals, U get the same hospitality, Asian or not. If u don;t feel comfortable to walk in a Chinese restaurant or a Mexican restaurant, then don't go gambling at Lucky Dragon / El Cortez (?).



I have observed that the Bacc players tend to be a very superstitious group.. following a leader, and frowning on those who would disrupt the "flow". So BBB's advice to go with it and not against it is wise if you want to have a good time with the crowd.
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, bad-ass speed. - Eleanor Roosevelt, 1936
Deck007
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December 2nd, 2016 at 5:44:01 PM permalink
What about EGT (Electronic Game Terminal).
The single zero roulette is a game changer and will knock the socks out from all the Vegas casino.
Genting Resort is a pioneer in this with their NYC Casino. It is now the top grossing gaming outlet in the USA with this EGT.
If it is not in Vegas yet it will be and change Vegas forever.
Looks like Macau will change Vegas nowadays and not the other way round.
onenickelmiracle
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December 2nd, 2016 at 5:59:01 PM permalink
Quote: UCivan

Will Asian people feel comfortable at Bellagio, Planet Hollywood, Cosmopolitan, Aria, etc, feel treated the same, not nudged to just feel tolerated?

For Lucky Dragon, The COO is Mr. David Jacoby and the President and CEO is Mr. Andrew Fonfa, both are non-Asian. So as a non-Asian, you should feel welcome there.

Nonsense. Those casinos dont say they're open to get the white, black, Latino, Asian, European market, they just do. This casino has opened to attract Chinese from China. If those Chinese look around and not feel like they're there with lots of Chinese, there's going to be a problem. You know damn well the casino is taking note of your race there.

Being welcome can be as little as being given the benefit of the doubt, having a door held for you, being spoken about with respect in a language you don't understand, all the way to comps being doled out irregardless of race.

It's not racist treating a non minority badly because they're non minorities and it's legally seen to be fine best I know. It's clear things the mass public may like are not offered, so they don't show up, take it from there.
Looks like sh!t just got imaginary!
lavifighter
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December 3rd, 2016 at 1:52:49 PM permalink
Deck 007,
New-York hotel in vegas has some single player, single wheel electronic roulette with minimum of 2$. I think they give really bad odds for numbers(30 instead of 36) but I the even-bets seemed to be okay.
I won few dollars and than got bored(don't like roulette without other players around) though.
What is the minimum on this machines? Are they single-player or multi player(much more fun)?

Dear wizard(or any other admin), we are waiting for you to review this casino! It looks like a very unique casino by vegas standards. Maybe on my next flight(not in 2017 sadly) I will visit there.
Deck007
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December 3rd, 2016 at 4:55:11 PM permalink
What you are referring to is day-light robbery. The HA is 16%.
No your normal double zero roulette game is under serious threat with these new machines.
It is usually place in a stadium setting with over 100 terminals.
Notice the single zero at the left of the machine screen.
http://www.inspiredgaminggroup.com/products/casino-table-gaming/multi-win-roulette.
lavifighter
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December 4th, 2016 at 6:38:57 AM permalink
If you play only even bets, it is actually one of the better bets for low rollers... 2$ for 2.7% edge
Boz
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December 5th, 2016 at 6:54:12 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

Surprised this casino didn't make Anthony Curtis Dec 2016 top ten Vegas values
Usually a new opening usually makes the list
Maybe still waiting on the "official" opening

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/topten.cfm



Is AC just mailing it in anymore?

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