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September 1st, 2011 at 12:21:02 PM permalink
ThatDonGuy
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Quote: shaferdaniel
I was actually referring to just the simple little bonus wheel on top of the non-community WOF games, where you get anywhere from 25 to 1000 credits on the spin. You get to spin that wheel when you get three "Spin" symbols in a row. (I am referring to the machines currently at McCarran by the way).

Is this new? When I played non-community WoF ($1 machines at Golden Nugget back in 2008, IIRC), I'm pretty sure only the third reel had the Spin symbol on it (you might be confusing it with the Jackpot symbols, which look a lot like the Spin symbol).

(Then again, I am referring to three-reel non-video. For all I know, there's a 5-column video version as well.)

EDIT: I just saw this post about these being five-reelers.

Related question: if you are playing multiple lines and three bonus symbols appear on two or more lines in the same spin, is the bonus multiplied accordingly? If not, you might want to take that into account when calculating expected bonus payouts.
September 1st, 2011 at 12:28:25 PM permalink
CrystalMath
Member since: May 10, 2011
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Quote: ThatDonGuy

Related question: if you are playing multiple lines and three bonus symbols appear on two or more lines in the same spin, is the bonus multiplied accordingly? If not, you might want to take that into account when calculating expected bonus payouts.


If a bonus is triggered by a line combination, then you must get the bonus for both overlapping lines or have the bonus multiplied by 2. One example is Money Storm. On that game, you get free spins for getting 3 or more Tornadoes on a reel. You get something like 3 spins for 3 Tornadoes, 6 spins for 4 Tornadoes, and 15 spins for 5 Tornadoes. If you initiate the bonus on overlapping lines, it issues the sum of the free games awarded on each line.

I don't know of any WOF games that work like that, but there are many, many, varieties of WOF since it has proven to be the best and most well recognized slot ever.
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September 1st, 2011 at 12:36:43 PM permalink
shaferdaniel
Member since: Aug 28, 2011
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thanks.
any idea what the frequency of a bonus spin of the wheel is on a simple, progressive quarter Wheel of Fortune machine? (that wheel on top of the machine with 10 to 1000 in credits)
September 1st, 2011 at 12:42:32 PM permalink
shaferdaniel
Member since: Aug 28, 2011
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Quote: ThatDonGuy
Is this new? When I played non-community WoF ($1 machines at Golden Nugget back in 2008, IIRC), I'm pretty sure only the third reel had the Spin symbol on it (you might be confusing it with the Jackpot symbols, which look a lot like the Spin symbol).

Not sure if this is new as I live in LA and don't frequent Vegas enough. I played a quarter, three reel, five-line, non-community, progressive WOF at the Southwest Terminal at McCarran, waiting for my layover. They were arranged in banks of eight machines.

It DEFINITELY had a Spin symbol and you needed three in a row in any direction to spin the bonus wheel. It ALSO had a Wheel of Fortune symbol to win the progressive jackpot.
September 6th, 2011 at 9:12:59 AM permalink
shaferdaniel
Member since: Aug 28, 2011
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May I ask which game is your favorite?

Also, do you know if there is high or low variance with slots? In other words, if i were to put $1000 in a non-progressive slot machine that returned 95% I know it would eventually grind down to zero, but what would the theoretical max swings be on the small play assuming I don't hit the big jackpot. Could I find myself up $500 or $400 or 300 or $200 or $100 along the way before probability took me the other way to a loss...

Not sure if that's clear, I guess I'm just trying to figure out what a good lucky run is with small play, assuming I dont hit the big jackpot...
September 7th, 2011 at 6:32:17 PM permalink
buzzpaff
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Is it true that on a multi-line slot machine, say 25 lines, that the payoff for each line is equal? And if you are the big hits on each line equal ? Or is there no standard, just the overall edge ?
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September 7th, 2011 at 8:09:35 PM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: buzzpaff
Is it true that on a multi-line slot machine, say 25 lines, that the payoff for each line is equal? And if you are the big hits on each line equal ? Or is there no standard, just the overall edge ?


Yes, each line has the same odds. There are exceptions for games like Davinci Diamonds, where the top lines get scored more often. Otherwise, the big hits should happen on each line with equal chance.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
September 7th, 2011 at 8:29:41 PM permalink
buzzpaff
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I will bow to your superior knowledge, unless I hear different from Crystal Math
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September 8th, 2011 at 7:35:48 AM permalink
CrystalMath
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Quote: buzzpaff
I will bow to your superior knowledge, unless I hear different from Crystal Math


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