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DeMango
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March 15th, 2017 at 1:15:48 PM permalink
I do prefer a table for one, the only problem is that my shooting usually enriches them. Then pull the plug and do something else, eat breakfast, play 25 cent JOB, so they can lose their money and go back or usually head for another casino.
loldongs
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March 28th, 2017 at 9:16:38 PM permalink
Quote: ThenWhatHappens

On topic: Yes, I notice that I wish for some players to lose, and I feel good when they do. I am also one who feels that some of the bets on the craps table should never be played, so when someone collects on them I refer to it as "Rewarding bad behavior,"



they lose more often than they don't, and someone has to keep the lights on for those of us who try not to.

feeling good when anyone loses is kinda dickish imho, except when the casino loses. :)
Daddydoc
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March 31st, 2017 at 7:14:22 PM permalink
Quote: loldongs

...and someone has to keep the lights on for those of us who try not to.



To paraphrase someone here (Babs?): If they weren't making money on it, they wouldn't spread the game.

There is very little money to be made in a game where every bet is a line bet. The house has a small advantage, but out of that must come the dealer salaries, electricity, cost of the table, etc. And consider the opportunity cost to the casino of a bank of 10 slot machines where that craps table sits. Line bets are the price the casino pays to be able to offer the center bets.
If government is the answer, it must have been a very stupid question.
LuckyPhow
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March 31st, 2017 at 7:59:18 PM permalink
Quote: Daddydoc

"Line bets are the price the casino pays to be able to offer the center bets."



That one's a keeper!
onenickelmiracle
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March 31st, 2017 at 8:08:05 PM permalink
Quote: Daddydoc

To paraphrase someone here (Babs?): If they weren't making money on it, they wouldn't spread the game.

There is very little money to be made in a game where every bet is a line bet. The house has a small advantage, but out of that must come the dealer salaries, electricity, cost of the table, etc. And consider the opportunity cost to the casino of a bank of 10 slot machines where that craps table sits. Line bets are the price the casino pays to be able to offer the center bets.

That's true, but for 10 people playing those bets, there are more gambling at higher edges, because the tables are full. There is almost always 10 empty slot machines in a casino, so 10 extra slots won't produce more money necessarily. People might arrive at the casino intending to play craps, but wind up doing something else.
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docsjs
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April 1st, 2017 at 2:12:07 AM permalink
I hate people standing behind me at the dice table. I first politely ask them to move. If this is not successful, I will take a step backward and step on their feet or kick them. I, of course. apologize sincerely. As a last resort, I will ask the pit or boxman to call security to correct the problem.
WatchMeWin
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April 1st, 2017 at 2:30:40 AM permalink
Quote: bodyforlife

I'm convinced of it, and have observed this for quite some time while playing craps. I call it the Evil Knievel syndrome. People that used to watch him do his daredevil stunts would often comment that they were only watching to see if he could indeed jump over all those buses. But in reality, they wanted to see if he crashed. So how many of you have played craps and noticed that people will watch you as long as you are losing, but more times than not, when you get on a hot streak, they tend to walk away. I had the same thing happen on a trip this weekend. I hit 3 points and knocked out 6-7 come wagers along the way and the guy walked away in disgust. I'm guessing their mentality is if people are losing, it makes them feel better because they're not the dumb schmuck who just lost his bankroll. But if the shooter is winning, it annoys them because they aren't part of the action.



Generally, people like to watch people win not lose. They like to see big action and dream that it was their own winnings. The people that like to watch people lose are the insecure miserable lowlifes that don't know how to win and are envious of others.

The guy who shook his head in disgust and walked away while you were winning was either pissed that he wasn't on the roll, or just a miserable guy who had an evil soul.... and maybe didn't like you either.. haha
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
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April 1st, 2017 at 7:06:26 PM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

Generally, people like to watch people win not lose. They like to see big action and dream that it was their own winnings. The people that like to watch people lose are the insecure miserable lowlifes that don't know how to win and are envious of others.



Not always!

I was staying at a casino hotel one night and playing some Craps for the table minimum (of course), Pass Line with 2x Odds, Placing 6/8 for the minimum. Anyway, some clown comes up to the table talking about rigged decks at Blackjack and cussing out the Craps crew (for whatever reason) even though he had apparently won a good bit at Craps earlier in the night and lost it at Blackjack.

He had a few black chips still with him, though I can't remember the exact amount (I think $400) and I established a Point of 10. He put his remaining chips on the, "Lay Four," and continued to berate the crew for no good reason. My first roll after that was inconsequential, but then my next one was a four, I just looked at the guy, grinned, and said, "Have a good night!"
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WatchMeWin
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April 2nd, 2017 at 11:07:40 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Not always!

I was staying at a casino hotel one night and playing some Craps for the table minimum (of course), Pass Line with 2x Odds, Placing 6/8 for the minimum. Anyway, some clown comes up to the table talking about rigged decks at Blackjack and cussing out the Craps crew (for whatever reason) even though he had apparently won a good bit at Craps earlier in the night and lost it at Blackjack.

He had a few black chips still with him, though I can't remember the exact amount (I think $400) and I established a Point of 10. He put his remaining chips on the, "Lay Four," and continued to berate the crew for no good reason. My first roll after that was inconsequential, but then my next one was a four, I just looked at the guy, grinned, and said, "Have a good night!"



Your case was a matter of circumstance in which an idiot on the table rubs people the wrong way with negative energy or obnoxious behavior... in these cases, it is quite normal and advised to wish ill for the j-offs! But generally speaking, I would argue that most normal people like to see others win, unless as I stated, they have their own issues.
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Keyser
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April 2nd, 2017 at 3:21:31 PM permalink
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People Like To See You Lose



Yes, those people are called "dealers, pit, and casino management." They're aren't all evil and dark. There are a few good people there. However, there are many of them that do lead a very cynical life, which is why it's sometimes difficult for casino employees to make a transition back to the real world outside of the casinos. Working in a casino seems to have a profound effect on moral fiber. You can view some of their dark conversations on the casinos dealers forum.

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