Winning in the short-term....for a working life?!!!

Quote: MichaelBluejay

BTW, Weaselman, WizardOfAus wanted to do my LIVE Betting System Challenge, played in a real casino with a smaller number of rounds, as an even-money bet (not 200,000 rounds with 10-1 odds).

OK...
The OP has found a roulette machine that spins the ball even if you do not bet. He must otherwise watch many spins before betting. I wonder if he can still play if he is the only one at the machine.
There are also Craps machines that do the same. I have played them. You put your $$$ in and still need to make that first wager or the machine will just look at you as you are some type of dumb player not knowing what to do.

Now, I would say that NO B&M casino in the world will just spin the ball without you or anyone having a minimum wager.
They would be absolutely stupid to do so.

Sure some high roller Baccarat players can get away with it, (having hands played out when there are no wagers on the table) but most play with very high average bets and bankroll.

A live casino challenge will never happen since OP NEEDS 80 spins to even think of making his first wager.


I find the system of play very easy to understand and very easy to program.
If I find some extra time the next few days I will attempt the "Granny" English version.
Until then
Good Luck.

Okay, I still don't understand how the system prescribes what to bet on, but since this is a live challenge and not a simulation, I don't really need to understand how it works since I'm not going to have to code it. While I knew the system was a long-term loser (since all systems are long-term losers), it's possible that a system could have a good chance of winning in the short-term, so I was hoping to just verify for myself that WizardOfAus hadn't figured out a way to have good shot of winning over the limited number of rounds in the Live Challenge. But I'm going to trust weaselman's analysis which says that the chances of winning are still low, since weaselman's skills are much better than mine anyway.

So WizardOfAus, if you're still game for the live challenge, you can contact me directly and we'll go from there. You suggested 10,000 spins at 100/hr., or 100 hours, and since the challenge bet is $50 per hour, that would be a $5000 wager between you and me. I'm ready to risk my $5000, are you?

Quote: guido111

Now, I would say that NO B&M casino in the world will just spin the ball without you or anyone having a minimum wager. They would be absolutely stupid to do so.

This reminds me of watching a group of friends playing Casino War (version where regardless of how many players are playing at the table, only one card is dealt representing all players), and they had just won 7 bets in a row. The "leader" of the group said they should wait 1 hand before betting again. But since no one else was going to bet on the next hand, the dealer said he couldn't just deal out cards when no one is betting. So they bet the next hand and lost, lol.

Quote: WizardofAus

12    17   x    5      x
36    33   x    3      x
4      9     x    20    x
1      2     x    21    x
10    10         30    x
10    3           31
8      20   x    36 
7      6     x    1      x
10    21         22 
24    32   x    30    x

Hope you understand the marking process. An example for the first row. The 1st number is 12, it does not show up again for the next 10 numbers so it get an x after the number 17  on the next column as by that time that is the 10th spin that 12 has not shown up again. So on, so on. 

The strategy needs a bit of time though. My mate waits until there have been 8 x's in a row in one particular row, meaning that there has been 80 spins where 8 different numbers have not shown up again in their corresponding following 10 spins. He then starts the progression betting strategy.  

What is your reasoning for this selection process to come up with numbers to play? Since it doesn't have any edge or advantage over playing any other numbers, it seems just to be another "fun" way of selecting numbers.

dbl post, sry