Mission146
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August 18th, 2012 at 1:56:45 PM permalink
Absolutely.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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June 25th, 2014 at 5:58:24 PM permalink
I've read this entire thread, which I know it is old, but there's great info in it, and I've done research in to this, but I guess the only thing that gets me is on some games, there will be the symbols that are stacked together, and they will fill a reel for 2 or 3 seconds of a 5 to 6 second spin, and if you don't press stop, it will usually go away, more likley then not, especially if it starts as soon as you hit spin. If it doesn't go away and you hit stop, I do realize it has the potential to spin off the screen and give what ever result was selected when you hit spin, but man, it really feels like if it's on that reel and I press stop, it will stay there.

I'm mean I'm assuming the way slots work are known, like, it's not protected information by the casino's or slot companies, and I'm assuming you Mission146 is is aware of it, because you're posts are very informative. It's just the above circumstance which gets me wondering.
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June 25th, 2014 at 6:11:02 PM permalink
Quote: rep

I've read this entire thread, which I know it is old, but there's great info in it, and I've done research in to this, but I guess the only thing that gets me is on some games, there will be the symbols that are stacked together, and they will fill a reel for 2 or 3 seconds of a 5 to 6 second spin, and if you don't press stop, it will usually go away, more likley then not, especially if it starts as soon as you hit spin. If it doesn't go away and you hit stop, I do realize it has the potential to spin off the screen and give what ever result was selected when you hit spin, but man, it really feels like if it's on that reel and I press stop, it will stay there.

I'm mean I'm assuming the way slots work are known, like, it's not protected information by the casino's or slot companies, and I'm assuming you Mission146 is is aware of it, because you're posts are very informative. It's just the above circumstance which gets me wondering.



The point is that the stacked wilds will go away or they won't, regardless of whether you stop the reels. The result is determined as soon as you hit the spin button; everything that happens after that is for entertainment purposes only. It's like fast-forwarding through a recorded show. You get to the end faster but it doesn't change the show's ending.
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June 25th, 2014 at 11:02:46 PM permalink
Quote: Mooseton

I know exactly what you are talking about.

Quote: rep

away, more likley then not, especially if it starts as soon as you hit spin. If it doesn't go away and you hit stop, I do realize it has the potential to spin off the screen and give what ever result was selected when you hit spin, but man, it really feels like if it's on that reel and I press stop, it will stay there.
.

I seen this as well. It is strange that if its predetermined that if you do nothing they pass but if you hit stop they stay.

Some machines the stop action put some the breaks fast others they keep rolling a bit.

I just cant imagine the slot makers would make something exploitable like this. But never say never.

If someone did find something exploitable, it probably wont last long talking about it.
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June 25th, 2014 at 11:14:07 PM permalink
Slots now have alternate sets of reels and the stacks of symbols just confuse people. Slot makers say the don't make the games this way intentionally to scam people and they just turn out this way with people scamming themselves with their own ideas.
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AxelWolf
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June 26th, 2014 at 12:01:49 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

people scamming themselves with their own ideas.

For the most part yes but Not always. I have seen strange things with machines. I have even found some in the past. 99.99 % of the time guys like Tournament king are just off there rockers.

Some people find things and make a fortune.

Don't be surprised if in the future something comes out in the future regarding how someone did beat seemingly unbeatable slots.
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June 26th, 2014 at 5:25:17 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

For the most part yes but Not always. I have seen strange things with machines. I have even found some in the past. 99.99 % of the time guys like Tournament king are just off there rockers.

Some people find things and make a fortune.

Don't be surprised if in the future something comes out in the future regarding how someone did beat seemingly unbeatable slots.

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June 26th, 2014 at 6:09:29 AM permalink
true story - about 3 years ago a certain casino allowed you to covert your points to freeplay at the iview machine. not exactly sure how I found this and ill leave out some details as to software and what not incase I find it again- however since it was such a specific chain of events most people would never have the chance to get it anyway.

at a local casino i started noticing weird things when coverting the points to freeplay on the machine but it was small amounts such as a dollar here or five dollars there that seemed to go back on my card- i could never figure out or replicate how it happened- then one day i noticed it on 100 dollars and I though I might have something - i kept trying to figure out how it would magically appear back on my card then bingo .... by accident - it was 12 times point night and i had accumulated over 1300 in freeplay- the larger the denom of the game the higher the options were to donwload at once so I went to a dollar machine and was playing- somehow I got distracted and tried to download the points on video poker after hitting the deal button but prior to discarding my cards- the machine froze for a second and said something like download error unable to convert- i realized i was midhand and completled the hand I was on - WOW credits went up by 1000 and no money was dedcuted from my card- needless to say i didnt move I sat there for almost 6 hours until they closed - and got out almost 18k- keep in mind you still have to play it off at 5 dollars per pull . I went home and couldnt sleep waiting for them to reopen- I got away with this for 5 days- somewhere around 130k then security called- this was a sleepy casino and they noticed something clearly off- they already were well aware of me since I played there almost every day- the ap oppurtunites were amazing there but nothing lie this- i knew i was blowing up my home casino but still took the chance- they brought me into office and assured me I wasnt in trouble- they wanted to know what was going on and I could either tell them or be banned. They offered me 10k in comps and 10k in free play to show them it wasnt much of a choice since I already knew this wouldnt work anywhere else. I told them and they honored the 10k and 10k- and told me I couldnt redeem points for 60 days while they fixed it- 60 days went by and then 90 i decided just for giggles to see what would happen- boom - they never fixed it- i did it again for like 9 k then security came over and 86'd for life
but point of story - machines have errors, and things happen
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June 26th, 2014 at 6:29:40 AM permalink
Quote: strictlyAP

true story - about 3 years ago a certain casino allowed you to covert your points to freeplay at the iview machine. not exactly sure how I found this and ill leave out some details as to software and what not incase I find it again- however since it was such a specific chain of events most people would never have the chance to get it anyway.

at a local casino i started noticing weird things when coverting the points to freeplay on the machine but it was small amounts such as a dollar here or five dollars there that seemed to go back on my card- i could never figure out or replicate how it happened- then one day i noticed it on 100 dollars and I though I might have something - i kept trying to figure out how it would magically appear back on my card then bingo .... by accident - it was 12 times point night and i had accumulated over 1300 in freeplay- the larger the denom of the game the higher the options were to donwload at once so I went to a dollar machine and was playing- somehow I got distracted and tried to download the points on video poker after hitting the deal button but prior to discarding my cards- the machine froze for a second and said something like download error unable to convert- i realized i was midhand and completled the hand I was on - WOW credits went up by 1000 and no money was dedcuted from my card- needless to say i didnt move I sat there for almost 6 hours until they closed - and got out almost 18k- keep in mind you still have to play it off at 5 dollars per pull . I went home and couldnt sleep waiting for them to reopen- I got away with this for 5 days- somewhere around 130k then security called- this was a sleepy casino and they noticed something clearly off- they already were well aware of me since I played there almost every day- the ap oppurtunites were amazing there but nothing lie this- i knew i was blowing up my home casino but still took the chance- they brought me into office and assured me I wasnt in trouble- they wanted to know what was going on and I could either tell them or be banned. They offered me 10k in comps and 10k in free play to show them it wasnt much of a choice since I already knew this wouldnt work anywhere else. I told them and they honored the 10k and 10k- and told me I couldnt redeem points for 60 days while they fixed it- 60 days went by and then 90 i decided just for giggles to see what would happen- boom - they never fixed it- i did it again for like 9 k then security came over and 86'd for life
but point of story - machines have errors, and things happen



great story. I had something similar happen with free play but not as big. About 5 years a local ran a promotion where if you played for 7 straight days you got $50 free play, 10 days $100, 15 days $200. The amounts and days might be off but it was something similar. Anyways, after I hit the max days I received my free play and played it off in a machine. On the way out of the place I decided to play another machine and when I loaded the card I noticed it said I had free play. I looked and there was $200 again. hmmm, lets try again. I moved over 1 seat and when I put the card I had $200 again. I ended up getting $200 5 times that day. The next morning I showed up again and when I put the card in it said I had $200. Again it worked for 5 different machines. This went on for 10 straight days. The sad part of the story is that I didn't know anything about video poker at the time and I played it off on penny machines and only converted it at about 80%. The casino never said a word to me about it.
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June 26th, 2014 at 6:50:51 AM permalink
did it stop at five times per day or you stopped?
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