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May 8th, 2015 at 4:30:29 PM permalink
I saw a puzzle in a magazine and couldn't figure out the answer. When I finally gave up, I looked at the answer that was provided. I still couldn't make sense of it and felt as if I were completely clueless about the question. Thus, I'm looking for help from the other members here.

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Q: Which verb does not belong with the other words in the set:

BRING
BUY
CATCH
DRAW
FIGHT
SEEK
TEACH
THINK



Any suggestions on why one particular word in this list does not "belong" with the others?
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May 8th, 2015 at 4:36:40 PM permalink

DRAW is the only one whose past tense does not rhyme with "ought"

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May 8th, 2015 at 4:38:57 PM permalink
There are two lines of thinking I am thinking about taking. One is a definition based line of thinking, one is based upon a lettering line of thinking.
My guess, and it probably is a wrong guess is "Think" because all of the others require some use of the hands or legs.
To bring something you must carry it, to buy something you must complete some sort of exchange of funds, to catch something you use your hands, to draw you use your hands, to fight, you use your hands, to seek you are actively in motion, to teach you are probably writing something down on a chalkboard, to think, you can just sit still

Well I am way off
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May 8th, 2015 at 4:40:48 PM permalink
Since it came from a puzzle magazine, the answer will be undoubtedly be "tricky."


Draw doesn't belong. It's the only verb whose past tense does not rhyme with "ought." (brought, bought, caught, fought, sought, taught, thought)
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May 8th, 2015 at 5:12:52 PM permalink
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DRAW is the only one whose past tense does not rhyme with "ought"



I would have never figured that out. No wonder I failed the MENSA test.
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May 8th, 2015 at 5:56:20 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Quote: ThatDonGuy


DRAW is the only one whose past tense does not rhyme with "ought"



I would have never figured that out. No wonder I failed the MENSA test.

I got the spoiler result as well, but for an entire different reason that is just as reasonable (to me) as the "spoiler" argument.
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May 8th, 2015 at 5:57:32 PM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

There are two lines of thinking I am thinking about taking. One is a definition based line of thinking, one is based upon a lettering line of thinking.
My guess, and it probably is a wrong guess is "Think" because all of the others require some use of the hands or legs.
To bring something you must carry it, to buy something you must complete some sort of exchange of funds, to catch something you use your hands, to draw you use your hands, to fight, you use your hands, to seek you are actively in motion, to teach you are probably writing something down on a chalkboard, to think, you can just sit still

Well I am way off



Think was my first idea also similar to your line of thinking. Then after looking under the spoiler I thought about it.
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May 8th, 2015 at 5:59:55 PM permalink
I say "think" just because it is the action you cannot see. Not necessarily involving limbs like Gabes mentions. You can catch something in your mouth for instance.
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May 8th, 2015 at 7:21:36 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy


DRAW is the only one whose past tense does not rhyme with "ought"


Excellent explanation, and the answer matches the one given. Thanks. (Thanks also to Ed -- ThatDonGuy was just quicker!) I had come up with several reasons that a word might not belong, but none of them was compelling at all, and I wouldn't have accepted them from someone else, so I didn't accept them from me.

I'm curious: you posted this answer just six minutes after I posted the question. Was the answer that obvious to you, or had you seen the question before?
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May 8th, 2015 at 7:36:56 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

I'm curious: you posted this answer just six minutes after I posted the question. Was the answer that obvious to you, or had you seen the question before?



If I have seen it before, I don't remember it, but every issue of Games Magazine has a word puzzle like this. You just get used to looking for certain things when you see this sort of puzzle.

Here's one from 2014 - what do these words have in common?
DECAF
DIAPER
EVIL
GATEMAN
LIVED
POOLS
REWARD
SLEEK
SPOONS
STRAW
STRESSED
TRAP


If you spell them from right to left, they form different words

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May 8th, 2015 at 7:53:32 PM permalink
Too easy. And no, I didn't peek!
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May 8th, 2015 at 9:00:14 PM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

...to think, you can just sit still...


I agree with you. All the other verbs involve interaction with physical stuff.
The spelling argument has nowhere near as much value.
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May 8th, 2015 at 10:19:25 PM permalink
Had that one within 10 seconds (the second puzzle), but did not get the same (correct, I'm sure) answer TDG and Ed gave. I thought it was the vowel "U" in buy, and all the others were A,E,I. Good job, TDG/Ed!
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May 9th, 2015 at 6:30:55 AM permalink
Nice one! But that one I caught onto less than half way down the list. Don't know why that one came through to me while the one I posted was so obscure to my brain.

I used to read a journal that occasionally quoted some puzzles out of Games Magazine, but I don't think I have ever read/seen the real magazine.
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May 9th, 2015 at 7:54:26 AM permalink
Quote: indignant99

I agree with you. All the other verbs involve interaction with physical stuff.
The spelling argument has nowhere near as much value.


The spelling argument was an initial thought and fell by the wayside in about 5 minutes
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May 9th, 2015 at 9:37:55 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

If I have seen it before, I don't remember it, but every issue of Games Magazine has a word puzzle like this. You just get used to looking for certain things when you see this sort of puzzle.

Here's one from 2014 - what do these words have in common?
DECAF
DIAPER
EVIL
GATEMAN
LIVED
POOLS
REWARD
SLEEK
SPOONS
STRAW
STRESSED
TRAP


If you spell them from right to left, they form different words



Too easy. See, these word ones, I get them in like 5 seconds. It's the math ones where I just toss my hands up (figuratively) and check the spoiler.
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May 10th, 2015 at 2:38:42 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

Nice one! But that one I caught onto less than half way down the list. Don't know why that one came through to me while the one I posted was so obscure to my brain.

I used to read a journal that occasionally quoted some puzzles out of Games Magazine, but I don't think I have ever read/seen the real magazine.



I subscribed for about the first 5 years. I think I still have them in a box somewhere; I should look it up. Very enjoyable - they had a lot of interesting articles in glossy pages (maybe 32-40 pages of content, everything from reviews to math to development to history of games, some puzzles sprinkled in) and then about 8-12 page insert of pencil puzzles in each issue.

I'm almost sure it was started late 70's-early 80's by Bob Guccione (of Penthouse fame) but I could be wrong. It's still publishing, but by something called Kappa. Not sure what happened. Here's their website.

Edit: Wiki says it was Hefner/Playboy that started it in 1977.
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May 10th, 2015 at 4:38:59 PM permalink
I used to love reading Games magazine each month. (Or every other month. In the early '80s the publication was bimonthly.) I still have all of my old issues, about 110 in total, the earliest which seems to be from 1978. Alas, I stopped buying them / reading the magazine MANY years ago. The price kept going up and the quality kept going down.

Babs, don't ever throw out your old issues. I'd be interested in buying them, to complete my collection of the issues I don't have.
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May 11th, 2015 at 11:37:51 AM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

I used to love reading Games magazine each month. (Or every other month. In the early '80s the publication was bimonthly.) I still have all of my old issues, about 110 in total, the earliest which seems to be from 1978. Alas, I stopped buying them / reading the magazine MANY years ago. The price kept going up and the quality kept going down.

Babs, don't ever throw out your old issues. I'd be interested in buying them, to complete my collection of the issues I don't have.



Noted, Ed. I'll start looking. I loved the earliest issues as well. Turns out Will Shortz was editing almost from the first, and for about 6 years. His first job like that, and I think I felt his twisted mind behind it from the beginning. His departure about matches with my noticing a decline in both their quality and my interest, as well as the price hike.
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