billryan
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May 22nd, 2022 at 6:15:24 AM permalink
I've been giving this a lot of thought lately, partially driven by the fact this forum has changed so much since I joined it several years ago. It wasn't easy, and I'm sure some will try and talk me out of it.
I have made up my mind that four and four equals ten. I realize some will disagree, and point out how so-called textbooks will say it is eight, but I have made up my mind. I have nothing against the number eight, it's just that ten contains fewer letters and it is more convenient.
I'm a grown-ass man and I don't need any over-educated lilliputians telling me how I must think.
As the great Merican folksinger R.Kelly once said- If I can dream it, I can be it.
Some people dream of living in a race-free, class-free society. I choose to live in a math-free society, where five plus three could be eight, or it could be ten. My mind is made up.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 6:38:15 AM permalink
well the good news is we now have the New Math, and that is how it is taught, so you'll be fine

unfortunately the casinos are going to stick to the old math. When you are supposed to win 8 dollars you do not get 10.

Racists!
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May 22nd, 2022 at 6:44:43 AM permalink
I edited it to the important points:
Quote: billryan

four and four equals ten.

five plus three could be … ten.
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Wait a sec.
Which is it?
4 + 4 = 10?
Or
5 + 3 = 10?

I’m so confused. 😵‍💫
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May 22nd, 2022 at 6:49:09 AM permalink
If you're working in octal, it often looks like that.

There's probably a Christmas = Halloween joke in there.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 6:49:17 AM permalink
Obvious math is square rooting a negative number and getting imaginary numbers.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 6:57:19 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

well the good news is we now have the New Math, and that is how it is taught, so you'll be fine

unfortunately the casinos are going to stick to the old math. When you are supposed to win 8 dollars you do not get 10.

Racists!
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The besterds.
What if my red chips self-identify as green chips.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 7:01:29 AM permalink
Housing prices are self-identifying as doubling. I don't see the CPI printing that!
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May 22nd, 2022 at 7:09:28 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I edited it to the important points:

Quote: billryan

four and four equals ten.

five plus three could be … ten.
link to original post

Wait a sec.
Which is it?
4 + 4 = 10?
Or
5 + 3 = 10?

I’m so confused. 😵‍💫
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Exactly. Everyone knows there is only one best way to jump to a conclusion, but lets examine the so-called number 8 compared to a number like 7. The number 7 reminds us of greatness- The Seven Wonders of the World, Mickey Mantle, Seven brides for seven brothers, seventh game of the world series.
What does the number 8 remind us of? When I hear 8, I think of the time I ate a jar of pickles and my tummy hurt for days, or I think of what zeta did to theta. Put two zeros side by side and you have nothing. Put them on top of each other and suddenly you have an integer we are supposed to value?

I have spoken my piece and counted to three.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 7:20:51 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

well the good news is we now have the New Math, and that is how it is taught, so you'll be fine

unfortunately the casinos are going to stick to the old math. When you are supposed to win 8 dollars you do not get 10.

Racists!
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I love 4th grade arithmetic. It is so real, so logical, so correct, and so NON-confusing. Live it, love, and embrace it.

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May 22nd, 2022 at 7:27:21 AM permalink
I did more math in 5th grade than anybody in my school. Teacher thought it was punishment.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 7:36:18 AM permalink
Math is only confusing because of the way so-called " teachers" explain it. Once you recognize that numbers can be anything you want them to be, a whole new world opens up. You can have pizza for breakfast, you can wear your Saturday undies on a Tuesday. You can even add that long-awaited fifth side to your favorite square.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 7:44:14 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Quote: DJTeddyBear

I edited it to the important points:

Quote: billryan

four and four equals ten.

five plus three could be … ten.
link to original post

Wait a sec.
Which is it?
4 + 4 = 10?
Or
5 + 3 = 10?

I’m so confused. 😵‍💫
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Exactly. Everyone knows there is only one best way to jump to a conclusion, but lets examine the so-called number 8 compared to a number like 7. The number 7 reminds us of greatness- The Seven Wonders of the World, Mickey Mantle, Seven brides for seven brothers, seventh game of the world series.
What does the number 8 remind us of? When I hear 8, I think of the time I ate a jar of pickles and my tummy hurt for days, or I think of what zeta did to beta. Put two zeros side by side and you have nothing. Put them on top of each other and suddenly you have an integer we are supposed to value?

I have spoken my piece, and counted to three.
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The eighth wonder of the world (King Kong for those that still haven't seen the movie)

I seem to recall an old song that one plus one makes three although the implication was two parents doing the hanky panky and out pokeyed a baby for three.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 7:54:49 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

... I'm sure some will try and talk me out of it.
I have made up my mind that four and four equals ten. I realize some will disagree, and point out how so-called textbooks will say it is eight, but I have made up my mind. I have nothing against the number eight, it's just that ten contains fewer letters and it is more convenient.
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There are precedents where members in good standing start parody posts designed to embarrass other members.

It seldom ends well.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 8:04:52 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Quote: billryan

... I'm sure some will try and talk me out of it.
I have made up my mind that four and four equals ten. I realize some will disagree, and point out how so-called textbooks will say it is eight, but I have made up my mind. I have nothing against the number eight, it's just that ten contains fewer letters and it is more convenient.
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There are precedents where members in good standing start parody posts designed to embarrass other members.

It seldom ends well.
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I hope you aren't suggesting I'm in good standing.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 8:07:46 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Quote: OnceDear

Quote: billryan

... I'm sure some will try and talk me out of it.
I have made up my mind that four and four equals ten. I realize some will disagree, and point out how so-called textbooks will say it is eight, but I have made up my mind. I have nothing against the number eight, it's just that ten contains fewer letters and it is more convenient.
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There are precedents where members in good standing start parody posts designed to embarrass other members.

It seldom ends well.
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I hope you aren't suggesting I'm in good standing.
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I can neither confirm nor deny your double secret probation status.
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OnceDear
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May 22nd, 2022 at 8:12:29 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Quote: OnceDear



There are precedents where members in good standing start parody posts designed to embarrass other members.

It seldom ends well.
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I hope you aren't suggesting I'm in good standing.
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$;o)
Of course you are. Please keep it so, because you've posted some valuable content.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 8:49:39 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Quote: billryan

... I'm sure some will try and talk me out of it.
I have made up my mind that four and four equals ten. I realize some will disagree, and point out how so-called textbooks will say it is eight, but I have made up my mind. I have nothing against the number eight, it's just that ten contains fewer letters and it is more convenient.
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There are precedents where members in good standing start parody posts designed to embarrass other members.

It seldom ends well.
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What is curious is that Bill has stated he finds MDawg claims to be more believable than mine.

The real comedy here may come from understanding just who it is Bill is actually parodying.

He hasn't specified.

If he is parodying myself then we can all have a good chuckle at Bill.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 9:04:31 AM permalink
I want to read Mdawg writing Darkoz’s memoir and Darkoz writing Mdawgs. Have zero interest in reading either of their own versions of their own stories.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 9:04:36 AM permalink
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Quote: OnceDear



There are precedents where members in good standing start parody posts designed to embarrass other members.

It seldom ends well.
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What is curious is that Bill has stated he finds MDawg claims to be more believable than mine.

The real comedy here may come from understanding just who it is Bill is actually parodying.

He hasn't specified.

If he is parodying myself then we can all have a good chuckle at Bill.
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Keep up, Darkoz. He is clearly parodying Alan Mendelson.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 9:15:25 AM permalink
I took Bill's comments as just a general repudiation of the direction of the forum, away from the math-based forum that it once was, and toward math defying claims, comments and discussions.

You can name names if you want (although I probably can't without suspension), but there is a growing group that more and more makes posts and starts discussions that just defy the mathematics of gambling for which this forum was based. One of those people Wizard recently "labeled" a math defier. Others nothing is said about and are even inexplicitly protected. It apparently is fine to constantly repeat that the earth is flat. :(
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May 22nd, 2022 at 9:16:56 AM permalink
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why bother with casinos

I'm waiting for someone here to come up with a sure thing way to beat the Powerball lottery with a minimum investment and post it up here

it's just about guarandamteed that I'll learn that here pretty soon

in the meantime no need for me to do any work

as you can see - I'm determined - nothing can stop me now


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May 22nd, 2022 at 9:41:08 AM permalink
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Like the Wiz always says when people threaten to leave, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
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May 22nd, 2022 at 9:48:36 AM permalink
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Like the Wiz always says when people threaten to leave, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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And people haven't. 6-7 years ago 300+ members were listed as visiting WoV daily (maybe 280 on weekends). Yesterday was 108!! And most days now are in the 120's. That just happens to coincide with the forum moving away from math based discussions to all the "voodoo" nonsense of long disproven losing betting systems, and discussion like "quitting while ahead", along with long running fantasy adventure discussions of nothing but winning with no explanation of how.

I understand the current owner of this forum probably embrace these discussions. these are the kind of players they WANT to attract. But for those of us that were drawn to WoV, because of the math based discussions and the gambling math expert that started and ran the forum, These are dark days at WoV.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 9:55:43 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

I took Bill's comments as just a general repudiation of the direction of the forum, away from the math-based forum that it once was, and toward math defying claims, comments and discussions.

You can name names if you want (although I probably can't without suspension), but there is a growing group that more and more makes posts and starts discussions that just defy the mathematics of gambling for which this forum was based. One of those people Wizard recently "labeled" a math defier. Others nothing is said about and are even inexplicitly protected. It apparently is fine to constantly repeat that the earth is flat. :(
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Thanks KJ. I value your perspective. Bill is probably considering the general health of the direction of the forum and parodying more than just Alan.... But I'm crediting Alan with triggering this parody.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 9:58:28 AM permalink
And of course no thread in which KewlJ participates would be complete without his spouting the same thoughts that fill his head nightly that he's been evidently unable to clear every morning. Gotta wonder about how or why anyone could clear his mind at the tables when he's unable to let go of the same ol' obsessive lamenting complaining thoughts regurgitated the same way day in day out at forums.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 9:59:13 AM permalink
One major problem is that the math defiers do not just say they are defying the math but CONCURRENTLY argue that those who do math based AP are the liars and that advantage play is unbelievable.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 10:00:49 AM permalink
Why don't you go back to eating a steak a week. But not every week.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
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May 22nd, 2022 at 10:04:04 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

And of course no thread in which KewlJ participates would be complete without his spouting the same thoughts that fill his head nightly that he's been unable to clear every morning. Gotta wonder about how or why anyone could clear his mind at the tables when he's unable to let go of the same ol' obsessive lamenting complaining thoughts regurgitated the same way day in day out at forums.
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Thank you MDawg, for the personal attack on KewlJ.
Thanks also to KewlJ for his contribution in bringing up your thread.

This thread has run its course. Closed.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 10:04:16 AM permalink
This seems to be going nowhere good, and going there in a hurry.

Thread closed.
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