Comps: Color up or Walk

Does not coloring up and walking away with chips affect comp rating?

Quote: Chapz

Does not coloring up and walking away with chips affect comp rating?

I don’t think anything but the number that the pit manager puts into computer affects the comp rating.

For some reason I think it’s more of an average of how long you are in the system.

You go to a table, the pit manager puts you into the table, as well as a number that they think will be your average bet size based on how much you bought in for, you play at the table for however long, and finally the pit manager should take you off of the table and I think that is how you are rated

I think I know this because I think I asked a pit manager this a loooong time ago.

I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong though

Quote: Chapz

Does not coloring up and walking away with chips affect comp rating?

In theory, no. However, you might piss off the pit boss if you bolt with so many red/green chips as to require a table fill. I could see him 'accidentally' rating you at a lower average bet when he punches you out of the system in a case like this.

Quote: Joeman

In theory, no. However, you might piss off the pit boss if you bolt with so many red/green chips as to require a table fill. I could see him 'accidentally' rating you at a lower average bet when he punches you out of the system in a case like this.

This.

It's a gamble. By running away when he's not looking he might not realize when you left and could clock you out later than you actually left.

But he could also be pissed that he has to do an extra fill because of people like you and clock you out earlier than you actually left and/or lower your average bet.

Player etiquette includes not committing Chip Walk. When you are ready to depart from a table, Color Out your many small cheques to receive in exchange a few large cheques.

Quote: Chapz

Does not coloring up and walking away with chips affect comp rating?

I just realized i read this one way and others are reading it different. If I knew the OP's writing style I could have done better.

"Does not coloring up and walking away....?" can mean "Doesn't coloring up and walking away ...?" and that's the way I took it

I'd say the others are right, he's asking "if you don't color up, and then walk away with chips, does that affect ...."

Quote: sabre

This.

It's a gamble. By running away when he's not looking he might not realize when you left and could clock you out later than you actually left.

But he could also be pissed that he has to do an extra fill because of people like you and clock you out earlier than you actually left and/or lower your average bet.

The host at this particular casino told me they use losses to calculate points. I noticed if I colored up with a profit my comps didn't increase as much. So on my next winning session I walked (with black and green). Lo and behold my points went up much higher.

This is anecdotal so asking if anyone else noticed.

Sounds like an extreme form of ratholing.

Comp rating uses many variables, some have higher values than others but at the end, you get a final tally. Look at your rating at the pit like your credit score, there are many factors that are used to determine your score, but some have a higher value than others.

2 most important factors used is your average bet amd length of time spent. However the amount you buy in for and the amount of chips you leave are also factors used to determine your overall rating. So players are actually hurting themselves by hiding or pocketing chips. And try to buy in as much as you can, even though you have zero intentions to use them. Total chips in and out matters. Far as I'm concerned, leaving with chips is a good thing, always make yourself look like a major player by chipping up. It requires the floor to verify with the dealer and then record your amount that you are leaving. Perception is everything!

At craps I’ll sometimes try to pocket 1-3 green chips before cashing out. Might as well try to show you’re leaving with a little less than reality. Plus it’s easy to do at craps and less likely anyone will notice.

Quote: unJon

Sounds like an extreme form of ratholing.

I hear ya, but it's not ratholing if you don't color up.

Quote: odiousgambit

I'd say the others are right, he's asking "if you don't color up, and then walk away with chips, does that affect ...."

Yes, that is what I was attempting to say. Thanks for clarifying.

Quote: Vegasrider

2 most important factors used is your average bet amd length of time spent.
However the amount you buy in for and the amount of chips you leave are also factors used to determine your overall rating.
So players are actually hurting themselves by hiding or pocketing chips.
And try to buy in as much as you can, even though you have zero intentions to use them. Total chips in and out matters. Far as I'm concerned, leaving with chips is a good thing, always make yourself look like a major player by chipping up. It requires the floor to verify with the dealer and then record your amount that you are leaving. Perception is everything!

Wha?
Explain how does ratholing hurt yourself in comp rating?

Quote: 100xOdds

Quote: Vegasrider

2 most important factors used is your average bet amd length of time spent.
However the amount you buy in for and the amount of chips you leave are also factors used to determine your overall rating.
So players are actually hurting themselves by hiding or pocketing chips.
And try to buy in as much as you can, even though you have zero intentions to use them. Total chips in and out matters. Far as I'm concerned, leaving with chips is a good thing, always make yourself look like a major player by chipping up. It requires the floor to verify with the dealer and then record your amount that you are leaving. Perception is everything!

Wha?
Explain how does ratholing hurt yourself in comp rating?

Ratholing will rarely affect comps. If a pit boss sees you doing it he may take a negative view of you and rate you for a lower average bet.