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FrGamble
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January 13th, 2012 at 9:52:31 PM permalink
Your posts reminded me of a beautiful preface before the Eucharistic prayer that in part goes something like this:

All powerful and ever living God,
you have no need of our praise
yet our desire to thank you is itself your gift.
Our praise of thanksgiving can add nothing to your greatness
but helps us to grow in your grace and love you and others more.
EvenBob
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January 13th, 2012 at 10:09:15 PM permalink
Quote: FrGamble

All powerful and ever living God,
you have no need of our praise



The Bible is full of direct orders to praise
god non stop.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
NowTheSerpent
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January 14th, 2012 at 3:18:13 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

The Bible is full of direct orders to praise
god non stop.



I wouldn't describe them as direct orders; more as pleas, exhortations, or encouragements. Only a need on the part of the party giving the"order" would motivate it, but a God who truly "needs" (i.e., ontologically or metaphysically lacks something) would probably not be the object of Judeo-Christian faith.
Since Bible writers (and readers!) are supposed to understand this, no "liner note" or textual gloss on the point is necessary.
Nareed
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January 14th, 2012 at 5:08:26 AM permalink
Quote: FrGamble

All powerful and ever living God,



I thought we'd established Sheldon Cooper is not god. ;)
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
EvenBob
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January 14th, 2012 at 3:27:33 PM permalink
Quote: NowTheSerpent

I wouldn't describe them as direct orders; more as pleas, exhortations, or encouragements.



The fact that god would create beings just
to love and praise him is a frightening
concept. Thats what a crackpot minister
like Jim Jones and David Karesh did, set
themselves up as little gods to be worshiped
by their flocks. We look at it as sick and
demented, yet thats what Christians claim
god did. Why isn't that sick and demented
too?
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
FrGamble
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January 14th, 2012 at 3:59:31 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

The fact that god would create beings just
to love and praise him is a frightening
concept.



God created you to live forever in the joys of Heaven. The love and praise thing should kind of come natural in the face of that radical idea. It would be sick and demented or at least very rude not to give thanks to a guy who gave you such an awesome gift.
EvenBob
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January 14th, 2012 at 4:08:09 PM permalink
Quote: FrGamble

God created you to live forever in the joys of Heaven.



But he doesn't let people into heaven who don't
praise and obey him, so you can't seperate the
two. Like I said, a frightening concept.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
s2dbaker
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January 14th, 2012 at 4:41:14 PM permalink
Quote: FrGamble

God created you to live forever in the joys of Heaven.

Mankind invented their Gods so that they wouldn't have to deal with the fact that they will someday no longer exist.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
EvenBob
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January 14th, 2012 at 5:31:47 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

deal with the fact that they will someday no longer exist.



You're body won't exist, anyway.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
FrGamble
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January 14th, 2012 at 8:49:27 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

But he doesn't let people into heaven who don't
praise and obey him, so you can't seperate the
two. Like I said, a frightening concept.



Goodness gracious, how many times do I have to quote Matthew 25:31-46? It is a good passage worthy of another read by you.

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