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March 9th, 2014 at 5:07:36 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Wow you must have a seeing eye dog then.



The title of this thread is Celebrate Religion here, not Bash Religion here. Even I, a non religious person, can see the bashing that goes on here and in other threads that discuss religion. While nothing apparently rises to the definition of a personal insult, FrGamble, his church and his religion receive their share of nasty, vile comments. It has always been open season on religion at this gambling site. There are some good ,thoughtful, respectful discussions and the there is the rest of it.

Let's contrast that with something that took place in this forum yesterday. Does anyone find it curious that the Quote of the Day thread, started by soxfan, was closed after 90 minutes because it was "just another thread to bash Obama"? Has anyone noticed that more threads are being closed than ever before? If one didn't know better they might think it was censorship. To be fair, the offer was extended to continue soxfan's thread on the DT site.
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March 9th, 2014 at 5:10:53 AM permalink
Sorry, Axel. I didn't mean to quote you, I just hit the wrong button. How ya doin' this morning?
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March 9th, 2014 at 6:10:39 AM permalink
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Does he kill a kitten everytime I masturbate?

No, He has someone else do it.
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March 9th, 2014 at 6:34:02 AM permalink
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Sorry, Axel. I didn't mean to quote you, I just hit the wrong button. How ya doin' this morning?

Very good, I just hit something good on a new(to me) online casino, crossing fingers ill get paid, no big deal if I don't because because the investment was minimal. And you, how are you doing ?

I seen your post and I was like WTF does that have to do with bashing religion. I was trying to figure out how it was correlated. I just couldn't make the connection.

However, I have been guilty of bashing religion, I even had one of my posts removed, It was a religious/gay 1 line joke/comment. And then there was the one that made fun of Jewish people and Catholics at the same time. it was very funny. I didn't know FM was a minster/priest? So i guess it was ok the one post was removed. Not suspension worthy IMO however, it could have been offensive IF you are judgmental and think being gay is a bad thing. To me a joke is a joke and that's it.

I don't know really know why people are so hard on religion, I sincerely think religion is a good thing and I would make my kids go if i had any (with a very watchful eye) I spent a ton of time in church when i was a kid(4 days a week) and it was a great experience. My child hood Best friend was a PK and his older sister was my first sexual experience.

What I don't like are bible thumpers, so many have completely closed minds. Most if not all are very hypocritical and fake. I know the bible advocates spreading the word of god but, if its causing more damage then good and your pushing your religious views on people. That annoys the hell out of me. There are plenty of message boards that actually do celibate religion and there may be some lost souls who really need someone like FM possibly someone on the brink of suicide. People on this forum are not going to change their minds so the time spent on disusing it here is taking away from people who may really need it.

Trying to PROVE religion here is selfish. Come to think of it trying to prove religion seems like an egotistical self righteous thing to do. They seem to not want is to love god they just want us to think they are right. I have a feeling God would not approve with religious people arguing with the haters here.

this is a gambling and math Vegas forum, add religion and it's oil and water with a match ready to go. Just the tittle of the thread is going to cause a ruckus. Never will any thread like this became a celebration or sanctuary. I would bet you anything, if Somehow Mike could block all the non believers. All the believers would abandon this thread like it was a hooker with herpes.

OH! crap it's Sunday (My GF's, who im living in sin with of course, favorite day of the week...... yep, but not because its a holy day, but a day of rest with the NEWS PAPPER! she likes reading and cutting coupons with that flavored 7-11 coffee ) looks like going to hell where all the fun people and casinos are.
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March 9th, 2014 at 6:50:16 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I don't know really know why people are so hard on religion, I sincerely think religion is a good thing and I would make my kids go if i had any (with a very watchful eye) I spent a ton of time in church when i was a kid(4 days a week) and it was a great experience.


I was a kid 7 days a week.

But I digress. Which church would you make your kids go to?
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March 9th, 2014 at 8:46:52 AM permalink
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I was a kid 7 days a week.

But I digress. Which church would you make your kids go to?

One they could walk to preferably ;) Probably something that is non denominational with a 5% extortion fee and not 10%. Perhaps one with a good loss rebate. not some church that allows you to get away with murder and all is forgiven. That just seems to be something they made up so even sinners wouldn't give up and keep they would keep coming back to church, you have to keep that money flowing in. Everything I see in religion I can tie back to the money.

Flip a coin, because if their is a God, certainly he would have it land on the right side.
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March 9th, 2014 at 9:10:25 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

One they could walk to preferably ;)


Correct.

It's bad enough having to drive them in the station wagon to soccer practice. There's no possible way I'm putting on pants to transport them to Sunday School :(
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March 9th, 2014 at 9:51:32 AM permalink
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The title of this thread is Celebrate Religion here, not Bash Religion here.



I grant you some comments are over the top.

My reason to bash religion is simple: religious people all over the world keep trying to legislate their beliefs, and their prejudices, into law. That is to say, they are trying to impose their beliefs and prejudices on the rest of us by force. So long as that goes on, the bashing will continue.
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March 9th, 2014 at 2:48:38 PM permalink
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The title of this thread is Celebrate Religion here, not Bash Religion here. Even I, a non religious person, can see the bashing that goes on here and in other threads that discuss religion. While nothing apparently rises to the definition of a personal insult, FrGamble, his church and his religion receive their share of nasty, vile comments. It has always been open season on religion at this gambling site. There are some good ,thoughtful, respectful discussions and the there is the rest of it.

Let's contrast that with something that took place in this forum yesterday. Does anyone find it curious that the Quote of the Day thread, started by soxfan, was closed after 90 minutes because it was "just another thread to bash Obama"? Has anyone noticed that more threads are being closed than ever before? If one didn't know better they might think it was censorship. To be fair, the offer was extended to continue soxfan's thread on the DT site.



I am happy to contrast the two threads, actually. I missed the Quote of the Day before it was closed, so had no preconceived opinion before you called it to my attention and I read it. I think the Wizard was 100% correct in both cases.

In the Celebrate Religion thread, Fr. Gamble started it almost 2 1/2 years ago, labeled it for what he intended to talk about, and has tended it thoughtfully and politely as a gentleman despite more than a few ugly posts (I'm talking about decorum/how he was addressed or how things were said, not what position the posters took on religion). It has brought a significant amount of thoughtful, valuable conversation to the board.

In the Quote of the Day thread, soxfan started it with what turned out to be a sarcastic title, and quoted a mean-spirited and profane email that turned out to be falsely attributed to V. Putin. Thread devolved immediately into political bashing duplicated elsewhere. Value right down around zero, from the negative side of that number.

I'd like to see us have a legitimate Quote of the Day and/or Favorite Quotes thread; I think both could be lively and interesting. But this wasn't it, sorry, soxfan.

The Wizard made the statement a couple of weeks ago that he (and under his direction, we) would be closing off-topic, non-gambling, non-productive threads rather than letting them keep lowering the standard of the forum discussion, so it follows that you are seeing that happen. This one qualified.
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March 9th, 2014 at 2:56:48 PM permalink
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I am happy to contrast the two threads, actually. I missed the Quote of the Day before it was closed, so had no preconceived opinion before you called it to my attention and I read it. I think the Wizard was 100% correct in both cases.

In the Celebrate Religion thread, Fr. Gamble started it almost 2 1/2 years ago, labeled it for what he intended to talk about, and has tended it thoughtfully and politely as a gentleman despite more than a few ugly posts (I'm talking about decorum/how he was addressed or how things were said, not what position the posters took on religion). It has brought a significant amount of thoughtful, valuable conversation to the board.

In the Quote of the Day thread, soxfan started it with what turned out to be a sarcastic title, and quoted a mean-spirited and profane email that turned out to be falsely attributed to V. Putin. Thread devolved immediately into political bashing duplicated elsewhere. Value right down around zero, from the negative side of that number.

I'd like to see us have a legitimate Quote of the Day and/or Favorite Quotes thread; I think both could be lively and interesting. But this wasn't it, sorry, soxfan.

The Wizard made the statement a couple of weeks ago that he (and under his direction, we) would be closing off-topic, non-gambling, non-productive threads rather than letting them keep lowering the standard of the forum discussion, so it follows that you are seeing that happen. This one qualified.



That's good to hear. I'm looking forward to the closing of more threads. Are you taking suggestions?
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