How would you improve gambling in your state?
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1) Vegas has a permit that allows locations to install up to 15 machines for a tax base of $2 per machine day. While theoretically this sounds like a plus for mom and pop organizations, out of 2009 locations 1003 are in stores of some types (usually chains), 872 are in bars and restaurants, and 134 are in bowling alleys, golf courses, fraternal organizations, etc. In recent years the NGC has awarded 140-180 new licenses per year.
193 7-11's
93 Terribles gas and convenience
42 Albertson's Grocery
40 Vons Grocery
40 Smith's Food and Drub
39 CVS Pharmacy
32 Circle K
14 AM/PM
14 Food 4 Less
10 Kmart
... etc etc
2) Sports book is now allowed to use smart phones.
3) Mobile gaming devices are operational in public areas of 4 casinos and are petitioning to operate in hotel rooms.
4) There is only one native American casino in Nevada.
5) There is no lottery in Nevada by state law.
6) Gaming tax is a mere 6.75%
7) A hotel room for every 14 residents. The national average is a hotel has 94 and there is a room for every 64 residents. Florida and Hawaii do not even come close to Nevada. Only 1% of the hotels have 500 or more rooms, but they contain 11% of the total number of rooms.
What do you wish you had in your state?
If there had been a choice for "allowing casino gambling (tables and slots) in my state" I would have voted for that option. I am so sick of having a state say how horrid gaming is for the people and then running a lottery and allowing horse/dog tracks. If gambling is so bad, stop it in all forms. Put the issue on the ballot and let the voters decide...c'mon, Texas. Everyone just heads out of state with their gambling money since they can't use it here...Louisiana gambling would fall on really hard times if Texans stayed away (why do you think all that stuff happened with lobbyists playing both sides against the middle and getting money form Louisiana to stop gambling from moving forward in Texas?).
Would it be too radical to say that politicians should only be allowed to take donations from within their District or State? Your representative...bought and paid for by someone who lives thousands of miles away!!
Just as a store owner merely rents space to guy with a vending machine route, the Mom and Pop organizations will just be renting out the space to some sharp operator somewhere.
I live in a state with "Internet Cafes" mushrooming all over the place. Some of them rent Internet Time although located in free wi-fi hotspots that provide internet access for free. They are NOT internet cafes, they are retirees playing electronic bingo.
5) There is no lottery in Nevada by state law.
But the teachers union is still trying to get one and wed the lottery earnings to teacher's salaries.
I think the real problem is the lack of a Fish or Cut Bait attitude in the Legislature. Look, Jack, most of them ain't Indians at all. And if they are Indians, the tribe is more a cult than anything else with a few powerful leaders taking all the money and threatening to disenroll anyone who objects.
Its the same lack of honesty with gambling: The Legislature declares gambling to be wrong but then conducts a lottery with odds so poor a Policy Bookmaker is ashamed of it.
I'd break the Indian stranglehold, end the lottery commission's power, ... hotel rooms? You want to build a hotel, build a hotel. You don't want to build a hotel, don't build a hotel. It ain't the function of a Legislature at all.
1. Sports Books allowed, both in the casinos and "mini" licenses so a sports book could open in say a strip mall and have some VP/slots available.
2. More licenses for more operators. No operator allowed more than 2 casinos and no more than 1 in a market.
3. No 6:5 BJ, EVER
4. VP Machined allowed in bars and clubs, but must be real VP and not pull-tabs like we (illegally) have all over the place now.
5. Cut the slot tax from 55% to 34%.
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Its the same lack of honesty with gambling: The Legislature declares gambling to be wrong but then conducts a lottery with odds so poor a Policy Bookmaker is ashamed of it.
I remember the politicans for years railing against the number runners to Marlyand, Saying so many Mom's were palaying a dollar a day and taking food out of their baby's mouth. The bookies were paying 700 to 1. Now the state runs commercials on TV about helping state parks and the environment by playing the number. Maryland pays 500-1.
Colorado has scratch tickets. Started as only being offered in $1 denominations. Now in $1, 5, 10, 20. Guess which ones sell out first at the auto dispenser in the grocery store ??
Quote: buzzpaffQuote: FleaStiff>
Its the same lack of honesty with gambling: The Legislature declares gambling to be wrong but then conducts a lottery with odds so poor a Policy Bookmaker is ashamed of it.
I remember the politicans for years railing against the number runners to Marlyand, Saying so many Mom's were palaying a dollar a day and taking food out of their baby's mouth. The bookies were paying 700 to 1. Now the state runs commercials on TV about helping state parks and the environment by playing the number. Maryland pays 500-1.
Colorado has scratch tickets. Started as only being offered in $1 denominations. Now in $1, 5, 10, 20. Guess which ones sell out first at the auto dispenser in the grocery store ??
You can bet the Bookies ran it more honestly and more efficiently too. 700:1 and efficient. Illegal, perhaps but efficiently run.
Now you have money bled off for television adds, discarded tickets all over the place, tickets with telltale clues to their actual worth, signage, ... and a far lower payout. I don' t know if mothers were taking food out of their baby's mouth then, but they probably are now.
Quote: buzzpaffI remember the politicans for years railing against the number runners to Marlyand, Saying so many Mom's were palaying a dollar a day and taking food out of their baby's mouth. The bookies were paying 700 to 1. Now the state runs commercials on TV about helping state parks and the environment by playing the number. Maryland pays 500-1.
It's just like raspberry tart: everyone loves their own brand.
I used to describe my exact position as being at the point where it takes just as much time to get to AC as it does to get to Mohegan Sun or Foxwoods.
Now I add; But it's about an hour closer to PA Sands.
I haven't been to AC since table games arrived in PA. The only reason is that it's closer. Of course, if I was strictly a table games player, things would be different. The minimums are higher in PA due to limited supply and excessive demand. I'm more of a poker player, so that doesn't affect me.
As PA casinos, and NY racinos are siphoning off gamblers away from AC, it's obvious that the answer is to put a casino in Northern or Central NJ to siphon off the siphon.
Too bad the legislature has tunnel-vision about AC.
Quote: gofaster87I would like Vegas to do away with all the slots in grocery stores, gas stations and the such.
I suppose they're just too profitable.
Quote:Its just annoying to see that crap everywhere. Casinos are for gambling and stores are for shopping.
You sound like a local, so you may have a different take on this. I also don't think you'll like what I'm about to say. My first trip to Vegas was abck in the 70s when I was 9 or so. I remember little about it, but one enduring memory are the banks of slots at the airport. It struck me as excessive even back then, but now I think it's more of an "only in Vegas" kind of thing.
Many stores in Mexico, pretty much all large grocery stores, have claw machines and other types of kiddie gambling machines (let's be honest here, that is what they are) to supplement their income. Change the plush toys and trinkets for cell phone accesories or something like that, and you may see adults playing them too.
Quote: DJTeddyBearI live in Northern New Jersey.
I used to describe my exact position as being at the point where it takes just as much time to get to AC as it does to get to Mohegan Sun or Foxwoods.
Now I add; But it's about an hour closer to PA Sands.
I haven't been to AC since table games arrived in PA. The only reason is that it's closer. Of course, if I was strictly a table games player, things would be different. The minimums are higher in PA due to limited supply and excessive demand. I'm more of a poker player, so that doesn't affect me.
As PA casinos, and NY racinos are siphoning off gamblers away from AC, it's obvious that the answer is to put a casino in Northern or Central NJ to siphon off the siphon.
Too bad the legislature has tunnel-vision about AC.
NEW JERSEY needs to
1. Expand casino gambling throughout the state, just like PA.
Having all your eggs in one basket (Atlantic City), doesn't make sense.
Too much NY and northern NJ money is going to surrounding states.
2. Legalize sports betting.
3. Lower table minimums.
4. Free casino parking!!!!!!!
All we have is the lottery and Colonial Downs racetrack.
Quote: buzzpaffI live in Colorado. We have casinos and a terrible racetrack. UGH How long is Colonial Downs meeting ?
I assume that means track length? I don't know about racing, but I looked this up: The track has a one and one-quarter mile dirt oval, a seven and one half furlong inner turf oval and a one and one-eighth mile outer turf oval.
Quote: buzzpaffI live in Colorado. We have casinos and a terrible racetrack. UGH How long is Colonial Downs meeting ?
Colorado: Raise or (preferably) eliminate table maximums. This would make CC/BH more appealing as a destination rather than just a place for metro Denver folks to blow money on weekends. Allow gambling somewhere like Glenwood Springs, which would draw Aspen vacation traffic as well as travelers on I-70. Maybe a casino right over the Nebraska line on I-76 would do well too.
Quote: gofaster87I would like Vegas to do away with all the slots in grocery stores, gas stations and the such. Its just annoying to see that crap everywhere. Casinos are for gambling and stores are for shopping. These stores make it just fine in other states so they can do without the restricted license to make a profit. From what I see on a daily basis there are more beggars in front of the businesses that offer slots than those that don't and I cant stand being asked for money on a daily basis. I know it will never happen.
Until I figured out that these locations were paying $2 or less per machine day in gaming commission taxes, it didn't bother me as much. Now I feel as if the state deliberately went out of it's way to work slots into the daily lives of most people. I have to say that the little rooms at the grocery store or the pharmacy seem more predatory than the Dotty's where people go primarily to smoke.
1. Add pai gow tiles
2. Make non-smoking
3. Add sports gambling
gog- i was told that the odds you get on your parlay requirement are so ridiculously poor that no rational gambler would ever make a legal bet in Ontario.
Do you have the details? My info is hearsay.
1) Allow a major casino to serve tourists and locals in downtown Seattle.
2) Allow video poker and regular slots.
3) Explicitly allow online poker and other gambling.
Of course, I am a pretty libertarian so I would prefer liberal NV style gambling everywhere but I am keeping it semi-realistic. The truth is that the tribes have huge political power so anything that would be percieved to take customers from their casinos would never happen. I did not vote in the poll because I think the choices are too specific to certain areas.
Even if we had a vegas-equivalent casino right in the city I would likely still go to LV for occasional trips. I don't go just to gamble, I like the entire over-the-top experience, the shows, and the restaurants.
Quote: pacomartin... I have to say that the little rooms at the grocery store or the pharmacy seem more predatory than the Dotty's where people go primarily to smoke.
I have some good friends who live in Misssissippi, not far at all from Tunica, and I get together with them each time I visit their state. They are opposed to the casinos and feel that gambling has done great damage to the most needy elements of local society (taking people's welfare checks, etc.) I said that from what I saw, the casinos were providing employment, greatly increasing the tax base, and bringing in quite a bit of tourism dollars. I thought this should be helping the society/economy more than it hurt.
Then last summer, I visited the casinos in Greenville, MS where my friends used to live. I later told my friends that I understood their feelings a little better. My impression of the Greenville casinos was that they were unlikely to attract any significant tourism and were designed to extract as much money as possible from the local economy. It is quite a different scene from Tunica or Biloxi.
Perhaps the Nevada grocery store slot rooms have something in common with the Greenville, MS casinos.
Quote: jml24I live in Seattle, WA. We have 3 major NA casinos that are all about 30 min from the city and that do not pay any taxes to the state.
Curious here, did the opening of Snoqualmie change the gambling scene there much? I know Tulalip opened up a big hotel around the same time, maybe to compete better with the Snoq. I have to believe either of these places are putting the screws to some of the smaller, less luxurious properites such as EQC, Muckleshoot, Nisqually and whatever's on the Olympic Peninsula. I guess EQC still has Tacoma to draw from, though. Haven't been there in a couple years so don't have recent personal experience.
Quote: FatGeezusNEW JERSEY needs to
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3. Lower table minimums.
4. Free casino parking!!!!!!!
One of my goals when I next visit AC (whenever that may be), is to see if the minimums have been lowered in the wake of nearby competition.
Although I agree with free parking, unless the city cuts the heads off the parking meters on the street (not likely), I would not expect to see free casino parking. On a side note, are there any commercial parking lots in the city? If so, they'd fight any free parking initiative.
Besides, it's easy enough for the occasional visitor to get parking comped.
Quote: DJTeddyBearAlthough I agree with free parking, unless the city cuts the heads off the parking meters on the street (not likely), I would not expect to see free casino parking. On a side note, are there any commercial parking lots in the city? If so, they'd fight any free parking initiative.
Besides, it's easy enough for the occasional visitor to get parking comped.
Why not cut the heads off parking meters? You know how it is....small town, not much to do in the evening........
Here is a bigger question--how many casinos anywhere make you pay to park, not including valets if you so choose. I don't remember paying to park anywhere except AC. Here in PA the only time you pay to park is at Rivers when there is a football game at nearby Heinz Field. In Canada you pay but merely needed to have a player's club card (no play required!) to park free.
Seems to me unless a casino is afraid of large-scale squatting (like the Heinz Field example) charging to park would put a drain on people coming in to play.
Quote: 7outlineawayCurious here, did the opening of Snoqualmie change the gambling scene there much? I know Tulalip opened up a big hotel around the same time, maybe to compete better with the Snoq.
I mostly play at Tulalip and it doesn't seem to have gotten any slower since Snoqualmie opened up. If you live on the North side of the city Tulalip is more convenient and Snoqualmie doesn't change that. If you live on the Eastside Snoqualmie is a lot more convenient than Muckleshoot and is physically nicer so I am guessing it affected Muckleshoot more. I think the small local cardrooms are hurting due to the expanded Tulalip and Snoqualmie, combined with the down economy. Quite a few of the mini-casinos have closed in the last few years.
Quote: Doc
Then last summer, I visited the casinos in Greenville, MS where my friends used to live. I later told my friends that I understood their feelings a little better. My impression of the Greenville casinos was that they were unlikely to attract any significant tourism and were designed to extract as much money as possible from the local economy. It is quite a different scene from Tunica or Biloxi.
Perhaps the Nevada grocery store slot rooms have something in common with the Greenville, MS casinos.
Look at the licenses approved in March of 2011. All of these locations are paying fees of $2 or less per machine day to the government.
Four convenience stoors & 2 restaurants
4 Machines UNITED COIN MACHINE CO., db at 7-11 STORE #25962
5 Machines GGB, INC., dba 7-11 STORE #29639
5 Machines LABOUZ, LLC, dba ONE STOP MARKET
5 Machines LABOUZ, LLC, dba LAKES MARKET
5 Machines CANTOR G&W (NEVADA), L.P., dba FORTE EUROPEAN TAPAS BAR & BISTRO
7 Machines HOUSE OF VINO LLC, dba
Eleven strip clubs, bars, truck stops and primarily places to smoke
15 Machines GRANITE GAMING GROUP II, LLC, dba GIRLS OF GLITTER GULCH
15 Machines LUSH ENTERTAINMENT LLC, dba THE STILL
15 Machines STARR & SON, LLC, dba THE MARTINI
15 Machines GOLDEN ROUTE OPERATIONS LLC, dba MESQUITE PLAYOFF’S
15 Machines GOLDEN ROUTE OPERATIONS LLC, dba LOVE’S TRAVEL STOP #340
15 Machines MY DADDY’S BAR INC., dba THE DOWNSTAIRS BAR
15 Machines E-T-T, LLC, db at STONEY’S NORTH FORTY
15 Machines GOLDEN ROUTE OPERATIONS LLC, dba PH TOWERS BY WESTGATE
15 Machines NEVADA RESTAURANT SERVICES, INC., dba DOTTY’S #67
15 Machines NEVADA RESTAURANT SERVICES, INC., dba DOTTY’S #58
15 Machines NEVADA RESTAURANT SERVICES, INC., dba DOTTY’S #70
The tax revenue is very small for these places. But they certainly are profitable. At least if you are going to a bar or a strip club then it is a deliberate act where you may want to gamble. However, placing machines in rouitine stores is dangerous to the addict.
Competition is on the way however. It's only a matter of time before casinos spring up in Rhode Island and Massachusetts. That fact is not lost on Mohegan Sun as they already have a 99 year lease on 152 acres of land in Palmer,Ma. right off the turnpike. So much for sovereignty.
Quote: SOOPOODid someone say that you have to pay to park at the casinos in Atlantic City? Do you need to get a 'ticket' or something from a gaming table for free parking? There isn't one casino there that will just advertise "FREE PARKING HERE" and stand out positively?
It's $5 to park at the casinos in Atlantic City. Guests pay it once and that includes a one time transfer ticket to park at any other casino. You can come and go as often as you like at your host casino. I hear this is mandated by the state of New Jersey and that everyone must pay it with no exceptions. Wink Wink
People with higher level players cards routinely get it comped and it's often waived for new members at some casinos. Don't tell the state.
Quote: SOOPOODid someone say that you have to pay to park at the casinos in Atlantic City? Do you need to get a 'ticket' or something from a gaming table for free parking? There isn't one casino there that will just advertise "FREE PARKING HERE" and stand out positively?
At least on the boardwalk, the casinos are within easy walking distance, similar to the ones on Fremont Street. Given that everyone is charging for parking now, if one casino stepped up and offered free parking, then everyone would try to park there. But that wouldn't mean that everyone would gamble there -- they might just walk next door to play after parking for free.
The tax revenue is very small for these places. But they certainly are profitable. At least if you are going to a bar or a strip club then it is a deliberate act where you may want to gamble. However, placing machines in routine stores is dangerous to the addict.
We re all of us addicts. If you are lucky your's is not destructive. In 1990 I played in a poker room in Denver. It had daily tournaments at Noon and I was on a 4pm-Mid shift at AT&t. So I played almost daily. The owner's wife would play when needed to fill enough spots. I never remember her winning. Rock of Ages. Never mind a raise, if she called you were beat. Almost always her chips got blinded away and she seemed relieved when she was out. Very nice lady, beautiful daughter who was also a dealer. In 1991 when gambling was legalized, neither the owner or his daughter could get a state license for having misdemeanor gambling conviction,
Daughter and son-in-law and child moved to Vegas. About a year later owner and wife followed. I assumed they missed grandchild for sure, Only later did I find out the reason was because the house was foreclosed on, credit cards were maxed out,etc.
Since she had been hiding all the mail from collection agencies, utility turnoff notices, etc, the owner had no idea his wife had become addicted to VP. Thank your lucky stars if you are addicted to math or this forum rather than gambling, alcohol, etc.
VP replaced slots some years back as the #1 source of gambling addiction for women instead of slots. At least that is what GA said. I wonder with penny machines if slots are back as number 1 Remember " There but for the grace of God goes I"
Quote: benbakdoffIt's $5 to park at the casinos in Atlantic City. Guests pay it once and that includes a one time transfer ticket to park at any other casino. You can come and go as often as you like at your host casino. I hear this is mandated by the state of New Jersey and that everyone must pay it with no exceptions. Wink Wink
People with higher level players cards routinely get it comped and it's often waived for new members at some casinos. Don't tell the state.
I'm a penny slot/table minimum player and I've paid nay dime to park at the Tropicana the three times I've been there. Just show your player's club card. Maybe because I stayed at the hotel, but I've never paid.
Quote: SOOPOOBuffalo here.
1. Add pai gow tiles
2. Make non-smoking
3. Add sports gambling
gog- i was told that the odds you get on your parlay requirement are so ridiculously poor that no rational gambler would ever make a legal bet in Ontario.
Do you have the details? My info is hearsay.
I did a rough comparison and the payouts are about 10% worse then the average bookmakers out there which is pretty awful, but wait it gets better; apparently the good folks here didn't want to bother programming past the single digit - all single game odds are capped at 9.9. So if you wanted to go for the truly long shots the skys the limit!
Quote: benbakdoffIn Connecticut we could use some healthy competition for the two giants, but that will probably never happen because of the agreement between Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun with the state. Both casinos pay the state 25% of all slot revenue and in return no other slot machines are allowed in the state. If the state were to allow slots anywhere within its boundaries, the agreement would be canceled.
Your state and it's respective Tribe made an agreement...and stuck to it?
NYS has/had a similar agreement, although not quite 25%, that relied on NYS not allowing any other Tribe or corp. to open up any slots within a certain geographical area, which was basically from State Rt 14 to the west. If you were to draw a north/south line from Lake Ontario to the PA border that split the Finger Lakes in half, everything west of that line is covered under this clause in the State - Nation Compact. And of course, NYS then went and opened up their racinos.
So the Senecas have stopped payments to the State, and now Cuomo's back at it (like every other NYS Governor) with trying to impose state tax on Tribal businesses. My question to those who know their states governments....does your State and it's local Tribe actually enter into contracts that last? This news of Conn. not messing with it's tribal casinos nearly floored me. I guess I've just been too jaded from living in NYS, because the idea of these types of agreements lasting, to me, is as far off as the whole suspension list being lifted and the forum improving as a result.
Stay tuned. If this turns into another 1993, you might catch a glimpse of the Face on the News =P.
Quote: AZDuffmanWhy not cut the heads off parking meters? You know how it is....small town, not much to do in the evening........
Here is a bigger question--how many casinos anywhere make you pay to park, not including valets if you so choose.
Harrah's in downtown New Orleans. Last time I was there they validated your ticket after an hour of play. Otherwise it costs to park.
Quote: benbakdoffIn Connecticut we could use some healthy competition for the two giants, but that will probably never happen because of the agreement between Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun with the state. Both casinos pay the state 25% of all slot revenue and in return no other slot machines are allowed in the state. If the state were to allow slots anywhere within its boundaries, the agreement would be canceled.
Competition is on the way however. It's only a matter of time before casinos spring up in Rhode Island and Massachusetts. That fact is not lost on Mohegan Sun as they already have a 99 year lease on 152 acres of land in Palmer,Ma. right off the turnpike. So much for sovereignty.
My guess is New Hampshire will be the next New England state to have casinos. They're libertarian that way, and any legislation that takes tourist dollars from Massachusetts people is a political slam dunk. They'll build it right off the first exit on 93 or 95 past the Massachusetts line.
Quote: 7outlineawayHarrah's in downtown New Orleans. Last time I was there they validated your ticket after an hour of play. Otherwise it costs to park.
Once upon a time the Teller House in Central City had free parking on a lot half a block from the casino. Giant sign said FREE PARKING FOR TELLER HOUSE CASINO. back of sign said 4 hour minimum play or $10 per hour. Gee I wonder why the Teller House casino is no more ??
Quote: benbakdoffIt's $5 to park at the casinos in Atlantic City. Guests pay it once and that includes a one time transfer ticket to park at any other casino. You can come and go as often as you like at your host casino. I hear this is mandated by the state of New Jersey and that everyone must pay it with no exceptions. Wink Wink
People with higher level players cards routinely get it comped and it's often waived for new members at some casinos. Don't tell the state.
I think that when gambling came to NJ, the state mandated a $2.00 parking fee. That money was to be used for re-development or some other BS for the city.
Quote: SOOPOODid someone say that you have to pay to park at the casinos in Atlantic City? Do you need to get a 'ticket' or something from a gaming table for free parking? There isn't one casino there that will just advertise "FREE PARKING HERE" and stand out positively?
You ask for a receipt and you can use it the same day at another casino.
Last month Trump Plaza had free parking for their card holders. They also got a free Hot Dog. I think they never advertised it.
Quote: FarFromVegasI'm a penny slot/table minimum player and I've paid nay dime to park at the Tropicana the three times I've been there. Just show your player's club card. Maybe because I stayed at the hotel, but I've never paid.
Try using your Tropicana players card at another casino and they will just look at you and say pay-up.
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THIS IS A TRUE STORY.
When we invaded IRAQ the first time (Aug, 1990 - Feb 1991), Harrahs casino offered free parking to Veterans. There are many military license plates. Disabled Veteran, Purple Heart, WWII veteran, Vietnam Veteran etc. If you had some type of military license plate that proved that you were a veteran, they would look at your plates and wave you thru the toll booth.
When I was leaving, I pointed to my plates and they waved me thru. I felt that it was a nice gesture by the casino to say thank you to the veterans.
When I returned a few months later, I pointed to my plates and they said =====Sorry, the wars over. You have to pay!!!!!
There seems to be a lot of requests for table games and competition. They both seem to be in short supply as long as the casinos are basically perceived as revenue generators for the state. No homely little neighborhood casinos, like the Edorado which was licensed on 15-May-62 and formed the beginning for the Boyd fortune.
Quote: FarFromVegasI'm a penny slot/table minimum player and I've paid nay dime to park at the Tropicana the three times I've been there. Just show your player's club card. Maybe because I stayed at the hotel, but I've never paid.
Did you check your bill?
Quote: 7outlineawayMy guess is New Hampshire will be the next New England state to have casinos. They're libertarian that way, and any legislation that takes tourist dollars from Massachusetts people is a political slam dunk. They'll build it right off the first exit on 93 or 95 past the Massachusetts line.
It looks like the front runner is Massachusetts and the Wampanoag Tribe from Cape Cod. They just hired retired Congressman Bill Delahunt as a consultant and the guy has major clout.
The only activity in New Hampshire is people crossing the border to buy cheap cigarettes and alcohol and do their shopping tax free. If you look at license plates, you'll never know you are in New Hampshire. By the way, the town of Hampton Beach has a casino on a boardwalk. It's an entertainment venue that is 100 years old and the boardwalk is concrete not wood. The official name is Hampton Beach Casino Ballroom but everyone just calls it the casino. Obviously, there is no gambling.
And whether those machines are officially a "game of skill" involving a claw manipulating a stuffed toy or whether those machines are clearly slot machines... its an offering to passersby to engage in an impulse behavior. Its similar to putting candy on the check out counter. The machines however can be in some otherwise useless alcove and yet still get some traffic because the "candy" they sell is liked by a segment of the population that responds favorably and readily to the near universal desire for candy. That is why some casinos leech the welfare checks and others leech the tourists.
Should a slot machine be at a gas station? Well, probably some of those nudie bill boards should not be where they are, but someone wants to rent out that space to the billboard and they also want to rent out that space to the slot machine owner. Should coffee be available all over Seattle? Should sunscreen and bikinis be available all over Miami's South Beach? Slot machines make money for merchants. Lottery tickets make money for merchants. Newspaper racks proliferate on sidewalks. Slot machines proliferate. Parking meters are all over the place and now function twenty four hours a day.
Casinos get established by those with lawyers and lobbyists and casinos make contributions to politicians. The governor of Washington probably pays closer attention to Smoke Signals than to telephones or newspaper editorials.
Airport concession? Heck, the airport should have one giant non-functioning slot machine as a greeting. Thats it.
>Sports book is now allowed to use smart phones.
>Mobile gaming devices are operational in public areas of 4 casinos and are petitioning to operate in hotel rooms.
I guess this means no one will need "Beards" in sport books any more. A sharpie can be in NYC and bet in Vegas without moving the line at all.
>There is no lottery in Nevada by state law.
Some parents recently pimped out their high school kids to present some lottery petition to the legislature or some such publicity stunt probably arranged by the teacher's union or some lobbyist working for the teachers union. All those 'grass roots groups' are really cash roots groups. And the money is always touted as going to "education" but never to "teacher's already bloated salaries".
>Gaming tax is a mere 6.75%
Direct tax revenue is one measure. How much tax does a casino pay that lures gamblers who use that machine? If the machine is used by a local, that local probably works for a casino.
>A hotel room for every 14 residents.
In Monaco, if you want to build an office building or apartment house, you had better put a police sub-station off the lobby.
In some cities, a residential building has to have commercial space on the ground floor. It doesn't have to be needed in the market but it does have to be built. Same thing with a parking lot.
Vegas requires hotel rooms? Well, that should be an entrepreneurial decision everywhere.
Quote: benbakdoffDid you check your bill?
My bill was zero--comp room.
Well, I guess its hard to drive the kids to the roller rink and pass a billboard about some girl who is not from an agency. Its perhaps hard when a little girl wants to play Dress Up at home but refers to it as Dressing as a Cocktail Waitress. Yet the money from her mothers waitressing job is what pays that mortgage. Frankly, I've never thought that furniture stores were all that pleasant to drive by anyway. A bar is often a more inviting place than a furniture store or warehouse. And I'd rather see a casino in my neighborhood than a church or a school or a hospital. Talk about ranking evil and sin and deceit ... casino would be more pleasant to drive past than the others.Quote: gofaster87Im no angel but "sin city" needs to keep within its boundaries and let people live normal lives with their families away from the casinos.
Quote: FarFromVegasMy bill was zero--comp room.Quote: benbakdoffDid you check your bill?
I have stayed at the AC Trop a couple of times. I seem to recall that you are correct -- hotel guests park for free. I think it is the same deck as casino visitors but that you have a guest pass to show when exiting. It's been a few years, so I may not remember accurately.
