BedWetterBetter
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July 10th, 2015 at 10:40:14 AM permalink
Will be taking a weekend trip down to Baltimore, MD this weekend and noticed they recently opened a Horseshoe property there.

It appears to be a CET property, so I checked last week to see if I could get a Room there while I visited.

The rooms were completely booked up for the weekend, no surprise there.

But then when I started looking for availability in August, Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec,etc. it was ALWAYS booked with the Msg "SOLD OUT Select a Different Date?"

Is it possible that this place is so busy they have NO available rooms ANY day for the entire year?

Anyone been to HS Baltimore can comment on the quality of the casino?
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July 10th, 2015 at 10:53:31 AM permalink
I have absolute availability august and September. Both places I could stay were third party... Not at the casino. This probably makes it harder to get comps since they're out of pocket.
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July 10th, 2015 at 1:23:06 PM permalink
Horseshoe Baltimore has been tough for me to get rooms in. Even as 7S, I can almost never get them comped. They must buy a small bucket of rooms each month or so and dole them out until they're gone. They put you up in the Holiday Inn Express next to the casino, the Sheraton Inner Harbor, or the Hyatt Regency. The Hyatt is the best; avoid the Sheraton.

Horseshoe Cleveland and Cincinnati have been extremely easy for me to get rooms in. HS Cleveland has the Ritz Carlton, which is actually owned by Dan Gilbert's company which owns the casino, so it's basically a casino hotel. It's really, really nice. I get comped rooms 90% of the time there. Cincinnati doesn't have a corporate-owned hotel but seems to have a lot of partner availability. I've been put up in the Hyatt Regency, the SpringHill Suites, and the 21c Museum Hotel. The 21c Museum Hotel is probably one of the best hotels I've ever stayed in -- maybe the best. It's an extremely nice boutique property. I'd recommend staying there if you visit Cincinnati or Louisville.
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July 10th, 2015 at 1:26:24 PM permalink
They don't have a hotel of their own, in case that wasn't clear. That booking function on the casino site for this property is just to make a referral to an assortment of some Baltimore hotels not operated by Caesars, or I guess it would be doing that if it worked. This is apparently intended as another of their many primarily locals' casino grind-joint properties, not expecting many tourists headed for Baltimore on their vacations. Can't imagine why they would think that [snark]. But they are "excited" that those who do have hotels will actually let their customers buy rooms just like anybody else. Caesar is apparently in an easily excited state these days.
Quote: Caesars - Horsehoe Baltimore

We are excited to partner with the following local Baltimore hotels. You can book a room through us using the function at the left but...

...<SNIP>...

We are also happy to announce free shuttle service daily from 4pm - 3am at the following locations:

Marriot Inner Harbor (110 Eutaw Street)
The Convention Center (1 West Pratt Street)
Spring Hills Suites (120 East Redwood street)
National Aquarium (at Gunther Center)
Hilton Deluxe (401 West Pratt Street)
Sheraton Inner Harbor (300 South Charles Street)
Hyatt Regency (300 Light Street)
Days Inn Inner Harbor (100 Hopkins Place)
Royal Sonesta (550 Light Street)

https://www.caesars.com/horseshoe-baltimore/hotel

"But." Apparently they don't expect us to actually do that.

But I'm sure it is a lovely place. Actually I'm not, but I'm sure it at least has the thrill of that new casino carpet smell, many lights that haven't yet burned out, escalators that probably still escalate (unlike their Las Vegas properties), and table felt that is mostly not too worn out & filthy, since it hasn't yet been open long enough for the locals to scuff it up very much.
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July 10th, 2015 at 2:14:57 PM permalink
I've lived in or near Baltimore my whole life. The Horseshoe is a nice property and they have good BJ rules which is mostly what I care about. The hotels listed are mostly very nice. Except for the one right across the street from the casino which is nothing more than a roadside motel. But as DD pointed out none are attached to or affiliated with CET in any way. So for them to comp you a room....they'd actually have to buy an otherwise pretty expensive room, and give it to you. So I'm guessing they only do that for really big players. Of the hotels listed; easily the nicest two (four stars) are Royal Sonesta(550 Light Street) and the Hilton Deluxe(401 West Pratt, right next to Oriole park basically). The rest are fine hotels but the Sonesta and Hilton are really above average hotels. There is a great bar in the Royal Sonesta with amazing views of the inner harbor(and $18 martini's). All are short cab or shuttle rides to the casino. You could probably walk from some of them too. But I wouldn't, the casino is on Russell street, which is just not a pedestrian friendly route.
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July 10th, 2015 at 2:18:55 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

Horseshoe Baltimore has been tough for me to get rooms in. Even as 7S, I can almost never get them comped. They must buy a small bucket of rooms each month or so and dole them out until they're gone. They put you up in the Holiday Inn Express next to the casino, the Sheraton Inner Harbor, or the Hyatt Regency. The Hyatt is the best; avoid the Sheraton.

Horseshoe Cleveland and Cincinnati have been extremely easy for me to get rooms in. HS Cleveland has the Ritz Carlton, which is actually owned by Dan Gilbert's company which owns the casino, so it's basically a casino hotel. It's really, really nice. I get comped rooms 90% of the time there. Cincinnati doesn't have a corporate-owned hotel but seems to have a lot of partner availability. I've been put up in the Hyatt Regency, the SpringHill Suites, and the 21c Museum Hotel. The 21c Museum Hotel is probably one of the best hotels I've ever stayed in -- maybe the best. It's an extremely nice boutique property. I'd recommend staying there if you visit Cincinnati or Louisville.



It always puzzled me that Cleveland was willing to comp me a Ritz room, you inadvertently answered that, so thanks.


http://www.totalrewards.com/sevenstars/rules
Caesars Entertainment properties that do not own/operate a hotel may not offer the Complimentary Room benefit, including but not limited to Harrah’s Philadelphia, Horseshoe Hammond, Horseshoe Cleveland, Horseshoe Cincinnati, ThistleDown Racino, Harrah’s Louisiana Downs, Horseshoe Council Bluffs, and Horseshoe Baltimore.

That sucks, but makes complete sense on their end.
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July 10th, 2015 at 2:32:38 PM permalink
Quote: vendman1

...<SNIP>...You could probably walk from some of them too. But I wouldn't, the casino is on Russell street, which is just not a pedestrian friendly route.

Should I assume that also means walking around the city streets nearest the ballpark at Camden Yards (Oriole Park) would be problematic? That's the local Baltimore destination I will want to get to eventually when I have the chance. It looks like maybe < a mile between them on the same street. (I am very use to central city urban environments in general, but don't know this one.)
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July 13th, 2015 at 7:31:56 AM permalink
Quote: DrawingDead

Should I assume that also means walking around the city streets nearest the ballpark at Camden Yards (Oriole Park) would be problematic? That's the local Baltimore destination I will want to get to eventually when I have the chance. It looks like maybe < a mile between them on the same street. (I am very use to central city urban environments in general, but don't know this one.)



Just got back yesterday from Horseshoe, very nice place. Really surprised how big and well done it is. They had a good live band playing and tables were mostly full. Couldn't find a BJ game under $25, but it worked out ok as I made enough to pay for the trip.

It was also game day for the Orioles, so a lot of Orange shirts and Ball caps were at the tables. Did not cause me a problem, but I can see it being a potential issue on a Friday or Saturday.

But overall, liked the place and would definitely go back in the future.
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July 14th, 2015 at 2:02:42 AM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

It always puzzled me that Cleveland was willing to comp me a Ritz room, you inadvertently answered that, so thanks.


http://www.totalrewards.com/sevenstars/rules
Caesars Entertainment properties that do not own/operate a hotel may not offer the Complimentary Room benefit, including but not limited to Harrah’s Philadelphia, Horseshoe Hammond, Horseshoe Cleveland, Horseshoe Cincinnati, ThistleDown Racino, Harrah’s Louisiana Downs, Horseshoe Council Bluffs, and Horseshoe Baltimore.

That sucks, but makes complete sense on their end.



There is a Springhill Suites right next to Louisiana Downs that used to easy to earn comps at, wonder what happened there.
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July 14th, 2015 at 2:45:00 AM permalink
Quote: teddys

Horseshoe Baltimore has been tough for me to get rooms in. Even as 7S, I can almost never get them comped. They must buy a small bucket of rooms each month or so and dole them out until they're gone. They put you up in the Holiday Inn Express next to the casino, the Sheraton Inner Harbor, or the Hyatt Regency. The Hyatt is the best; avoid the Sheraton.

Horseshoe Cleveland and Cincinnati have been extremely easy for me to get rooms in. HS Cleveland has the Ritz Carlton, which is actually owned by Dan Gilbert's company which owns the casino, so it's basically a casino hotel. It's really, really nice. I get comped rooms 90% of the time there. Cincinnati doesn't have a corporate-owned hotel but seems to have a lot of partner availability. I've been put up in the Hyatt Regency, the SpringHill Suites, and the 21c Museum Hotel. The 21c Museum Hotel is probably one of the best hotels I've ever stayed in -- maybe the best. It's an extremely nice boutique property. I'd recommend staying there if you visit Cincinnati or Louisville.



Met up with a Seven Star on Vegas Message Board who was in Cincy at the same time last month. Told me to park at Horseshoe to use the hotel shuttle to the 21c (where he stayed) to go to the Reds game (7ish block walk plus 10-min shuttle ride for free parking at the casino)...decent move for "frugal" people like me. We also watched "I Love Lucy" live which was directly across the street from 21c, so we used the shuttle for that too.
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July 14th, 2015 at 4:51:46 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Met up with a Seven Star on Vegas Message Board who was in Cincy at the same time last month. Told me to park at Horseshoe to use the hotel shuttle to the 21c (where he stayed) to go to the Reds game (7ish block walk plus 10-min shuttle ride for free parking at the casino)...decent move for "frugal" people like me. We also watched "I Love Lucy" live which was directly across the street from 21c, so we used the shuttle for that too.



From 7* insider, it looks like Horseshoe Cincinnati is reevaluating its parking situation.

No More Freeloader Parking In Cincinnati

Effective July 10, Horseshoe Casino Cincinnati will begin charging non-casino customers $10 for parking between 6:30 and 10:30 a.m. during the week. The casino’s large garage with access from Reading Road and Gilbert Avenue is a convenient, free parking option for people working and playing in the city. Initially the casino planned to allow free parking only at night, and officials said they would charge non-customers $1 per hour during the day, but the public quickly learned they could park for free all the time. “Over time, parking has become more difficult for our gaming guests due to downtown workers who are parking for free in our garage,” said Kevin Kline, general manager.

http://www.sevenstarsinsider.com/site/sevenstarsinsider/latest-news-about-caesars-entertainment
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July 14th, 2015 at 6:30:30 AM permalink
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July 29th, 2015 at 10:54:09 AM permalink
Just received a mailer from Horseshoe less than 3 weeks after I visited the place.

They are offering me on my next visit:

1) $375 in Chips

2) 9000 rewards credits

3) Free Entry into a BJ Tournament



Sounds a little shady to me, I did make a little money after 5 hours of play there. But I'm not sure it's worth the 3 and a half hour drive each way, only to find out it has strings attached.

I'm going to take it to my host at Cesars AC and see if they will honor or match it (not likely) , but you never know!
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July 29th, 2015 at 2:05:16 PM permalink
Quote: BedWetterBetter

Just received a mailer from Horseshoe less than 3 weeks after I visited the place.

They are offering me on my next visit:

1) $375 in Chips

2) 9000 rewards credits

3) Free Entry into a BJ Tournament



Sounds a little shady to me, I did make a little money after 5 hours of play there. But I'm not sure it's worth the 3 and a half hour drive each way, only to find out it has strings attached.

I'm going to take it to my host at Cesars AC and see if they will honor or match it (not likely) , but you never know!



So, adding up the fact that you're active enough with Caesar's AC to have a host (and a TR record) and your recent (first?) visit to Horseshoe, and having myself had similar stacked offerings, I would say it's entirely legitimate. First, Harrah's usually only mails you offers from places you've been (exception for me: Laughlin), so the computer saw you at Horseshoe and put together your Tier and Play with an offer designed to draw you back.

Second, the VIP dep't there will take your card, swipe it and put in whatever code generates the 9000, give you a voucher for the chips to take to the cage, and give you a voucher to exchange at the BJ tournament desk, all in about 2 minutes. They have this kind of thing DOWN. This will all be generated into the computer the minute you call or via the computer, make the reservation using the particular code on the email and your TR number, and be ready for you to claim when you get there (as well as, I'm assuming, a room somewhere there).

I highly doubt there are strings attached. These are just really good offers and I love using them. I don't see your host being able to apply it in AC, because it's probably only valid at Horseshoe, and each property has its own marketing department, but I could be wrong on that part of this. Never hurts to ask, either.
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July 29th, 2015 at 3:09:25 PM permalink
Quote: SACR

There is a Springhill Suites right next to Louisiana Downs that used to easy to earn comps at, wonder what happened there.



Seven Stars players have a RIGHT to a room, regardless of ADT. This is basically just saying that if you're 7*, you do not have a right to the locations where they have to pay cash for the room... compared to an in-house room which would't cost them more than $20-30 outside of opportunity cost.
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July 29th, 2015 at 3:35:47 PM permalink
Quote: SACR

There is a Springhill Suites right next to Louisiana Downs that used to easy to earn comps at, wonder what happened there.



Caesars canceled their agreement with Springhill Suites. We may see more of these type of actions as the bankruptcy process moves forward.

Separately on Tuesday (3/17/15), the bankruptcy judge ruled CEOC (Caesars Entertainment Operating Co) could void several agreements because of the bankruptcy, including the lease for a luxury box at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City — home of the NFL’s Kansas City Chiefs — and a room reservation agreement it had with a Springhill Suites near the company’s Horseshoe Bossier City casino in Louisiana.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/caesars-says-lawsuits-raise-going-concern-doubts
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July 30th, 2015 at 5:02:51 AM permalink
Quote: BedWetterBetter

Just received a mailer from Horseshoe less than 3 weeks after I visited the place.

They are offering me on my next visit:

1) $375 in Chips

2) 9000 rewards credits

3) Free Entry into a BJ Tournament



Sounds a little shady to me, I did make a little money after 5 hours of play there. But I'm not sure it's worth the 3 and a half hour drive each way, only to find out it has strings attached.

I'm going to take it to my host at Cesars AC and see if they will honor or match it (not likely) , but you never know!


BWB, sounds like a standard offer. I had never considered trying to swap those between facilities. Let us know if you have any luck with that.
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July 31st, 2015 at 12:59:14 PM permalink
Not sold on going back to Baltimore, MD just yet.

The tolls alone from North Jersey to MD was an astonishing $58! $17 each way on the NJ Turnpike, $4 each way on the Delaware bridge, and $8 each way for the MD tolls.

Add $45 in gas round trip, $112 for hotel for one night and XX amount on food n drinks. I'd be paying over to $200 expenses alone.

Shockingly, a Bus from NYC to Baltimore only costs $32 round trip! If they had the $25 slot voucher with that, I'd be sold.

The only thing I am leary of is for the Chips it says $375 "Promotional Chips", does that mean they are contingent on me playing them?

Like free slot play or direct bet, I have to bet and WIN on it in order to be able to cash them out?

The mailer does not disclose the conditions of Promotional Chips and I doubt a Cesars AC host will give me a straight answer.

I ran into this issue once before where an AC property , run by a certain presidential candidate hopeful , told me to come down in person to discuss the matter with mailer in hand. Only for them to explain the free promo chips are given after check-in to the hotel and purchase of a room at the normal rate!

In the words of the Who... "Won't be fooled again!"
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July 31st, 2015 at 2:41:49 PM permalink
I still think it's a legitimate offer, read the fine print. I assume promotional chips mean, 'yes, you can play them at the tables, but no, you can not cash them at the cage'. You got an offer for 'promotional chips' that came without an offer for free Accomodations?...unusual most places, but then there is not a hotel that's part of that casino is there. And so it does make sense. You decide for yourself, I would not be excited by the offer. BTW, sometimes if you just ignore the offers, they get better and more frequent, seems that way to me anyway, specifically Total Rewards offers.
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