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Beethoven9th
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October 23rd, 2013 at 11:28:10 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

The 19yo and many others probably exceeded their ability to pay. Sounds like a deadbeat to me. I see no difference than promising someone you won't crash their Ferrari when you don't have insurance and make minimum wage.

How this guy goes from a gun story to insurance and minimum wage is beyond me. Mr. Tangent strikes again! lol


Quote: s2dbaker

If only that 5 year old had a gun with which to protect himself from that 5 year old with a gun because you know that the only thing that can stop a bad 5 year old with a gun is a good 5 year old with a gun!

If only the 5-year-old didn't have a babysitter, he'd be alive today!!
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October 24th, 2013 at 12:18:30 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

How this guy goes from a gun story to insurance and minimum wage is beyond me. Mr. Tangent strikes again! lol



I'll come down to your level.

Yuk Yuk. LOL Mr Bozo answerman again.

Get use to it. Mr. bozo answerman. LOL LOL.

And if I get banned, you should too.
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October 24th, 2013 at 12:23:48 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

I'll come down to your level.

Yuk Yuk. LOL Mr Bozo answerman again.

Get use to it. Mr. bozo answerman. LOL LOL.

And if I get banned, you should too.


Huh? Why is laughing at a nonsensical post so terrible??
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October 24th, 2013 at 12:31:04 AM permalink
Do as you wish. I'm not stopping you.
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October 24th, 2013 at 3:23:31 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Favoring personal responsibility is one thing, but there's essentially no gun collateral. Collateral ensures you are covered for damages and you have not exceeded your ability to pay.



So you are saying you are supposed to carry liability insurance to babysit? Because babysitting is the real issue here, not the gun.
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October 24th, 2013 at 3:42:18 AM permalink
We should support federal legislation to ban babysitters who aren't registered with the government...lol

Babysitting permits & babysitting background checks might help too!
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October 24th, 2013 at 4:39:34 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

So you are saying you are supposed to carry liability insurance to babysit? Because babysitting is the real issue here, not the gun.

I know!! That babysitter's gun had absolutely nothing to do with the way that 5 year old died! She should be praised for having the forethought to possess a weapon while babysitting because, home invasion, happens all the time.

Apparently this is a thing in Nebraska, sitting on an ATV in a pasture. But responsible gun owners probably shouldn't be letting their bullets fly which could, and I'll quote, "The bullet entered Fischer’s right hip". Can you think of more passive language to describe being shot with a rifle?
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October 24th, 2013 at 4:53:48 AM permalink
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a loaded .234 rifle.



.243 maybe? I've never heard of a .234.

That babysitting incident happened in or near Vidor, Tx. You may recall that Vidor was in the news for the 1993 dragging death of James Byrd, Jr.(a black man) by three white young men.

Anyway, it's Hicksville.
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October 24th, 2013 at 5:09:23 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

So you are saying you are supposed to carry liability insurance to babysit? Because babysitting is the real issue here, not the gun.



Your suggestion would also imply that it's not the car, but the driver. Fine. Because drivers end up paying liability insurance in the real world. You don't escape that conclusion by not blaming the object. Which in this case is not a car, but a gun.

If you think the reasoning doesn't apply to your gun, I suppose you should stop buying insurance for your car and just tell the cops when they pull you over that cars don't kill people which is why you don't buy any insurance any longer. Like they say with the gun, the car didn't just jump up and run over someone. And yet, you need liability insurance, unless you never plan to drive it.

Actually, you could tell the cop, "cars don't kill people, and I don't plan to kill people so I don't need insurance" See how it goes.
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October 24th, 2013 at 5:22:00 AM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

I know!! That babysitter's gun had absolutely nothing to do with the way that 5 year old died! She should be praised for having the forethought to possess a weapon while babysitting because, home invasion, happens all the time.



Lets draw a logic tree here since you seem to be having trouble.

1. If the babysitter had not fallen asleep would the child have gotten the gun? Almost certainly NO
2. If the gun was not there but the babysitter had still fallen asleep could the child have otherwise gotten hurt or killed? YES, many ways from falling to eating poison.
3. Did the gun do anything to cause the death? NO, guns are inanimate objects and don't "do" anything.
4. Was what the babysitter doing already against the law? YES, it is called "Endangering the welfare of a child" in most jurisdictions.

So the babysitter's actions were already "against the law." And yes, THE GUN HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

For the 38th time, if you do not want guns in your home, don't have guns in your home.


Quote: rxwine



If you think the reasoning doesn't apply to your gun, I suppose you should stop buying insurance for your car and just tell the cops when they pull you over that cars don't kill people which is why you don't buy any insurance any longer. Like they say with the gun, the car didn't just jump up and run over someone. And yet, you need liability insurance, unless you never plan to drive it.



Just like on Obamacare you seem to need to learn how insurance works. My liability insurance is not "on the car" it is "on me." If I drive another car such as a family member's or a rental my liability insurance still covers me. Licensed drivers who do not own a car can purchase liability insurance under umbrella policies if they wish. Cars cannot purchase liability insurance.
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October 24th, 2013 at 5:27:56 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Just like on Obamacare you seem to need to learn how insurance works. My liability insurance is not "on the car" it is "on me." If I drive another car such as a family member's or a rental my liability insurance still covers me. Licensed drivers who do not own a car can purchase liability insurance under umbrella policies if they wish. Cars cannot purchase liability insurance.



So, how does this get you to the point where you don't need to purchase liability insurance? It's true a car doesn't pay it. But that doesn't mean you won't.
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October 24th, 2013 at 7:23:44 PM permalink
I support the right to carry arms. While my young adulthood was riddled with felons, I live in a right to bare arms state. As a felon, my application for the FOID card was denied. I was sent a letter that says the laws allow me to petition the court to have my rights restored. It's been 24 years since the last conviction. My lawyer is on it.

When my mom died, I was given a service revolver and a few hunting rifles. These weapons are also protected by a few laws that can't hold me liable for possession. Guns covered by an estate that are handed down by Will are protected from seizure and the person in possession has broken no laws.

I'm still on hold on this and the guns are locked in storage where they've been for a decade. I have no desire to stay in Illinois and have a move date set. For my situation, I think removing the record would be easiest. When I move to a new state, I will have to change address on the ID and re-register the arms and this could lead to a denial of right as I would still be required by law to check the felon box.

I've used my freedom properly...


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October 24th, 2013 at 7:48:02 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Lets draw a logic tree here since you seem to be having trouble.

1. If the babysitter had not fallen asleep would the child have gotten the gun? Almost certainly NO
2. If the gun was not there but the babysitter had still fallen asleep could the child have otherwise gotten hurt or killed? YES, many ways from falling to eating poison.
3. Did the gun do anything to cause the death? NO, guns are inanimate objects and don't "do" anything.
4. Was what the babysitter doing already against the law? YES, it is called "Endangering the welfare of a child" in most jurisdictions.

So the babysitter's actions were already "against the law." And yes, THE GUN HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

For the 38th time, if you do not want guns in your home, don't have guns in your home.

Just like on Obamacare you seem to need to learn how insurance works. My liability insurance is not "on the car" it is "on me." If I drive another car such as a family member's or a rental my liability insurance still covers me. Licensed drivers who do not own a car can purchase liability insurance under umbrella policies if they wish. Cars cannot purchase liability insurance.



Of course if the gun wasn't there the child would more than 99.999% likely still be alive. Babysitters fall asleep all of the time, and it's very rare that kids dies when that happen. To make my way through university, I worked at a half-way house for young offenders. There were no guns in the house, and us staff members fell asleep in the middle of the night all of the time. I didn't get shot because there wasn't a gun in the house. Nothing happened to me, because like the babysitter, if we heard a noise, we woke up, just like probably the babysitter did when the kid offed himself.

And yeah, the babysitter wasn't following THE law. How do you enforce the law without violating home privacy laws? The fact is, for the 39th time, is that there is a portion of the population cannot be trusted with guns, despite the law. People are stupid and let their anxiety get the best of them. They reason that it's better to have something you can control with a 1% probability that an accident will happen vs to not have control and have a 0.001% probability that a gun will prevent something from happening. It's a numbers thing. So many people own and carry guns that dumb accidents are going to happen but at least they'll be safe from the roving gangs and thugs going down some street some feet or miles away.

You have to accept that in a gun-carrying paranoid society, I guess.
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October 25th, 2013 at 3:29:58 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Of course if the gun wasn't there the child would more than 99.999% likely still be alive.



But guns are in houses all over the USA where kids do not shoot themselves. Again the babysitter fell asleep while watching the kid, of she didn't fall asleep the child would more than 99.9999% still be alive. Ban babysitting, not guns if this is your concern.

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The fact is, for the 39th time, is that there is a portion of the population cannot be trusted with guns, despite the law.



And for the 40th time, this is simply the price of a free society. There is a portion of society that cannot be trusted with all kinds of things.

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People are stupid and let their anxiety get the best of them. They reason that it's better to have something you can control with a 1% probability that an accident will happen vs to not have control and have a 0.001% probability that a gun will prevent something from happening. It's a numbers thing. So many people own and carry guns that dumb accidents are going to happen but at least they'll be safe from the roving gangs and thugs going down some street some feet or miles away.

You have to accept that in a gun-carrying paranoid society, I guess.



You mean you have to accept that in a society that wants to protect itself? If you have no guns in your home, why on earth do you care? Just keep your home gun-free and go about your life. I prefer the ability to protect myself.
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October 25th, 2013 at 5:32:48 AM permalink
The ability to protect yourself comes with the risk that you also have the ability to kill yourself and others. That's what is at issue here, and is the "cost" of a free society able to carry weapons capable of carrying out your impulses in an instant.
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October 25th, 2013 at 5:38:58 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

The ability to protect yourself comes with the risk that you also have the ability to kill yourself and others. That's what is at issue here, and is the "cost" of a free society able to carry weapons capable of carrying out your impulses in an instant.



Guns aren't the only thing that can kill.
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October 25th, 2013 at 5:49:43 AM permalink
Quote: Alan

Guns aren't the only thing that can kill.



Correct, but he thinks they are and if we just get rid of guns the USA will be all rainbows and unicorns.
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October 25th, 2013 at 6:02:08 AM permalink
Guns are pretty much the only thing that kill instantly. There are thousands of ways to die.
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October 25th, 2013 at 9:08:12 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

But guns are in houses all over the USA where kids do not shoot themselves.

Ooooo! A challenge!! Guess how many children under 13 shot themselves or someone else this past year with a gun that didn't belong to them. Answer to come after some Googling. I'm going to guess that I can find 20 to 25.
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October 25th, 2013 at 9:16:05 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Guns are pretty much the only thing that kill instantly. There are thousands of ways to die.



Guns don't kill instantly unless they hit a vital area. There are many ways to die instantly, jump off a building to throwing the plugged in hair dryer into the bathtub. Guns have an advantage in suicides in that the person will never know what hit them.


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Ooooo! A challenge!! Guess how many children under 13 shot themselves or someone else this past year with a gun that didn't belong to them. Answer to come after some Googling. I'm going to guess that I can find 20 to 25.



Probably 20-25. But there are guns in 50MM+ households. So my statement stands that having a gun in the house does not mean the kids will shoot themselves. The reason a kid shooting themselves makes the news because it is NOT common.
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October 25th, 2013 at 9:16:48 AM permalink
There are about 300 million guns in U.S. And some of those gun owners are careless(negligent), which leads to these incidents, no argument from me on that. If you have kids and guns, lock up the guns.
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October 25th, 2013 at 9:21:47 AM permalink
Quote: Alan

There are about 300 million guns in U.S. And some of those gun owners are careless(negligent), which leads to these incidents, no argument from me on that. If you have kids and guns, lock up the guns.

Why do you hate freedom?
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October 25th, 2013 at 9:24:02 AM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

Why do you hate freedom?



Where did he say he hated freedom? He didn't call for a law, just personal responsibility.
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October 25th, 2013 at 9:24:47 AM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

Why do you hate freedom?



I don't hate freedom, I hate careless gun owners. I'm a gun owner, but careless gun owners make ALL gun owners look bad.

And edited to add an NRA member as well.

And edited again to add that I have a concealed carry license too(CHL is what they're called in Texas).
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October 25th, 2013 at 9:54:55 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Guns don't kill instantly unless they hit a vital area. There are many ways to die instantly, jump off a building to throwing the plugged in hair dryer into the bathtub..

+1

Exactly. Jumping off, say, the Golden Gate Bridge is almost guaranteed death (unlike getting shot), so perhaps we should outlaw bridges, too?

Yep, bridges and babysitting need to go! It's worth it if it saves just ONE life!
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October 25th, 2013 at 10:05:48 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

+1

Exactly. Jumping off, say, the Golden Gate Bridge is almost guaranteed death (unlike getting shot), so perhaps we should outlaw bridges, too?

Yep, bridges and babysitting need to go! It's worth it if it saves just ONE life!



The real question is "who really *needs* to go over the Golden Gate Bridge?" Aren't they just contributing to global warming by driving, anyways? Wouldn't going back to ferries save CO2 as well as lives??
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October 25th, 2013 at 10:07:58 AM permalink
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Wouldn't going back to ferries save CO2 as well as lives??



Maybe, if they were LNG powered.
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October 25th, 2013 at 11:39:29 AM permalink
Calif. police shoot, kill 13-year-old with fake rifle

Maybe we should ban cops from having guns too? After all, this kid would still be ALIVE if these cops didn't have evil guns.
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October 25th, 2013 at 11:48:22 AM permalink
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Calif. police shoot, kill 13-year-old with fake rifle

Maybe we should ban cops from having guns too? After all, this kid would still be ALIVE if these cops didn't have evil guns.



I think this guy(kid) had an air soft gun from some reports that I read. And among other 'toy' guns, the red/orange tip that differentiates it from a a 'real' gun is not required, that's too bad.
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October 25th, 2013 at 11:50:11 AM permalink
Quote: Alan

I don't hate freedom, I hate careless gun owners. I'm a gun owner, but careless gun owners make ALL gun owners look bad.

And edited to add an NRA member as well.

And edited again to add that I have a concealed carry license too(CHL is what they're called in Texas).

You are simply avoiding the question. Why do you hate freedom? Everyone should have the Jesus granted right to be care-free with their weapons. Freedom hater!!
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October 25th, 2013 at 12:16:08 PM permalink
Actually, the reported number of children under 14 who are killed by accidental gun deaths is 61 per year or about 0.11/100,000 according to the CDC in 2010.

News stories claim that these numbers are misreported and might be double that, or 122 per year. Compare that to pool drowning which is 5 times higher and motor vehicle accidents which is 10 times higher. Fire is about double, as is suffociation.

And though there are many ways to die instantly, it requires thought, planning, and courage. Drug overdoses take time, suffocations are not very successful, jumping off bridges take time, but guns are extremely efficient. And when you have kids or teens at home, you gotta know that they are capable (and wired) to doing extremely stupid things.
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October 25th, 2013 at 12:27:39 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Actually, the reported number of children under 14 who are killed by accidental gun deaths is 61 per year or about 0.11/100,000 according to the CDC in 2010.



In other words, effectively nothing. Just over 1 per state.


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And though there are many ways to die instantly, it requires thought, planning, and courage. Drug overdoses take time, suffocations are not very successful, jumping off bridges take time, but guns are extremely efficient. And when you have kids or teens at home, you gotta know that they are capable (and wired) to doing extremely stupid things.



And?
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October 25th, 2013 at 12:41:15 PM permalink
So, at least one kid per week is killed by a gun. How many are injured of permanently disfigured by a responsible gun owner?
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October 25th, 2013 at 12:46:51 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

So, at least one kid per week is killed by a gun. How many are injured of permanently disfigured by a responsible gun owner?



Lots of things happen to one kid per week. In a nation of 300MM lots of things will happen. If you do not think you can handle a gun responsibly, and by your posts here it seems you think you cannot, then do not own or handle one.

Surely more than one kid a week is hit by a car, are you going to stop driving?
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October 25th, 2013 at 1:00:14 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

...jumping off bridges take time, but guns are extremely efficient.


Huh? Jumping off a bridge is a VERY efficient way to kill oneself.
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October 26th, 2013 at 10:41:04 PM permalink
Andy Lopez fatal shooting by Santa Rosa police to be investigated by FBI

Gee, why aren't liberals demanding that we ban guns from the police?????
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October 27th, 2013 at 2:48:53 PM permalink
Homeowner protects himself with a firearm yet manages not to hurt himself or his family.

I bet he can clean his gun without hurting himself just as well!

Too bad he didn't kill the perp.
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November 14th, 2013 at 4:02:26 AM permalink
Inkjet Printer tries to rob drugstore.

The only thing that can stop a bad printer without a gun is a good guy with a gun.
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November 14th, 2013 at 4:11:12 AM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

Inkjet Printer tries to rob drugstore.

The only thing that can stop a bad printer without a gun is a good guy with a gun.


It's funny how you've posted all these articles over the past year to argue against guns, yet none of the pro-gun people in any of those articles have actually changed their views to agree with yours.....LOL
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November 16th, 2013 at 11:30:53 PM permalink
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(1) SUV tried to ride with riders and rear ends a biker. The correct thing to do at this point is to stop the vehicle, resolve the incident and move on

Wrong. He did stop.

Source: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/10/03/police-biker-sought-in-manhattan-motorcycle-melee/


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(2) 15 seconds later in the video, the SUV has taken off and run over a biker. Not enough time to slash tires or damage the vehicle

Wrong again. Quote from article: "The footage shows a hole the size of a motorcycle helmet through the rear window of Lien’s black SUV, and both the vehicle’s passenger-side tires are flat."

Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/uptown/ninth-motorcyclist-arrested-beating-cops-article-1.1492716


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(3) The bikers take on the chase. The driver is beat up. The woman and child in the car are left alone

Wrong a third time. Hat trick!

Biker mob targeted WIFE of beatdown victim during attack: prosecutors


*So far, you've been wrong about pretty much everything having to do with this case. And it's too bad I don't have a time machine so I can go back in time & give the dude an AR-15 to use against those useless biker thugs.
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November 16th, 2013 at 11:59:15 PM permalink
I wonder if anybody has brought up the possibility of this being a hate crime?
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November 17th, 2013 at 5:40:11 AM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

I wonder if anybody has brought up the possibility of this being a hate crime?

I'm nearly certain that the responsible gun owner and real American from real America who put a stop to the inkjet printer's evil plot has no bias toward the device. The reason that I'm just almost certain instead of totally certain is that the inkjet printer bandit stopping patriot ran away after foiling the inkjet printer's maniacal scheme so I couldn't ask him.
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November 18th, 2013 at 2:40:16 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

I wonder if anybody has brought up the possibility of this being a hate crime?




Only the great humanitarian Eric Holder can answer that question, and being a "non Eric Holder - white" I can only guess.... so here I go....


The victim was asian.

What is the burden of proof as to proof a hate crime when the attacker is a large black off duty cop vs an asian male victim?

I would guess more than if the large black off duty cop was a "non white hispanic" and the asian male was a "troubled african american youth with potential."

We will see how close I am in the coming months, especially with the "non white hispanic" back in the news again.
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November 18th, 2013 at 3:56:02 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

I'm nearly certain that the responsible gun owner and real American from real America who put a stop to the inkjet printer's evil plot has no bias toward the device. The reason that I'm just almost certain instead of totally certain is that the inkjet printer bandit stopping patriot ran away after foiling the inkjet printer's maniacal scheme so I couldn't ask him.




I had to read this a few times to try to understand wtf you are talking about? At first I thought it was some stupid insinuation between the ink and a dark skinned race, which irritated me right off. So I had to scroll back to see where you make some remark about a an accidental gun discharge hitting some printer in some store as a way to make your complaint about firearms.

Let me guess that you probably haven't had the crap beat out of you by multiple angry people and had no idea why it was happening? Just in case I'll tell you it's a pretty frightening experience. Twice now, the fact that I was armed stopped me from becoming a victim, even without having to point the firearm. Just the fact that it was obvious I was armed and prepared to use deadly force nullified violent intentions.

I don't watch tv news and I'm out here in Az. so whatever the merits of the case about those people in the suv and the bike gang confrontation I'll come across inadvertently. I see an occasional blip and read what interests me and move on. When I saw the first blip on my screen and it said biker gang, I immediately thought of the thugs I'm more familiar with out west. They are predominately caucasion. When I saw a picture of the types of bikes they were riding, my mind went to some yuppie group of white kids. I was quite surprised to see the African looking members, I never associated them with bike gangs.

There was some reason we are not privy to as to why the police felt the need to infiltrate the gang. The reasons usually are criminal in nature, often drug related.

It occurred to me to bring up the possibility that the incident might be race related, I don't know. In my sometimes ironic way of looking at things when I've seen the term "hate crime", it seems it's usually used white on black. The way I see it when there is a murder involved it is always due to hate. But if the powers in charge of the law want to use that niche phrase to double penalty's which again is oxymoronic to me, I'd like to see laws applied evenly across the spectrum.
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November 18th, 2013 at 4:03:41 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

I'm nearly certain that the responsible gun owner and real American from real America who put a stop to the inkjet printer's evil plot has no bias toward the device. The reason that I'm just almost certain instead of totally certain is that the inkjet printer bandit stopping patriot ran away after foiling the inkjet printer's maniacal scheme so I couldn't ask him.




In case I miss read your post?

I have gotten angry at not only printer's but fax machines, although I haven't had to shoot one yet. I find usually a good cussing and a beating usually does the trick.

However cell phones can really get to me once in a while. I find great satisfaction in throwing them though. If you aren't familiar with the satisfaction of throwing one and watching it scatter on the cement, I highly recommend it.They are kind of hard to shoot when they are moving, especially with a snub nose 38.
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November 18th, 2013 at 4:21:47 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

They are kind of hard to shoot when they are moving, especially with a snub nose 38.


Responsible gun owners agree.
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November 18th, 2013 at 7:07:28 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

the fact that I was armed stopped me from becoming a victim, even without having to point the firearm. Just the fact that it was obvious I was armed and prepared to use deadly force nullified violent intentions.


Don't mind s2dbaker. He may believe in 'marriage equality', but he doesn't believe in 'firearms equality'. He thinks that only criminals should have access to guns.
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December 16th, 2013 at 1:39:26 AM permalink
Don't you love how the "unbiased" media operates?

Denver Post scrubs 'socialist' from profile of Arapahoe High School shooter

Can you imagine the uproar if this kid had any connection to the Tea Party? (The only thing more outrageous is that some people still actually think that the media is "objective")
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December 16th, 2013 at 3:23:34 AM permalink
Hello Frisco

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There was an accidental shooting Saturday night at the new Frisco Gun Club. An employee was cleaning a gun for a patron when it discharged, wounding the employee in the hand. That person was taken to a hospital for treatment.

Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
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December 16th, 2013 at 3:22:43 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Don't you love how the "unbiased" media operates?

Denver Post scrubs 'socialist' from profile of Arapahoe High School shooter

Can you imagine the uproar if this kid had any connection to the Tea Party? (The only thing more outrageous is that some people still actually think that the media is "objective")



or the fact that the kid hurt one person due to the fact there was an armed guard after him...
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