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August 7th, 2011 at 6:36:11 AM permalink
i had three dreams which were pretty strange and moving and i felt i had to share this experience wtih someone, but i don't want to tell friends or family because i don't want to disturb or upset them. in fact i told my gf about my first dream and she covered her ears and didn't want to hear it, so i thought it better not to tell her about the second and third dreams.

the first dream was about a couple weeks ago. i had a dream that i was in a plane going to vegas and it crashed. the thing was, the dream, if you could call it that, only lasted about three seconds! in my sleep i felt i was suddenly thrown forward with only my seat belt holding me back and my feet braced against the seat in front of me. i could see the ground coming up fast and we were in a nearly vertical plunge only a few hundred feet from the ground. only seconds from crashing. within about two seconds this flashed through my mind. first, shit i'm going to die! then, this how i'm going to die! then, why can't the pilot just level out to plane a little so at least we have a chance to survive! but it was too late for that. we were only a second from hitting the ground. then i woke up. the whole dream experience only lasted the last seconds before crashing. and it felt very real. i told my gf about it and she covered her ears. we're planning a trip to vegas in october.

the next night i had a dream with my father in it, then a dream with my mother in it. two different dreams but one after the other. i won't go into details except that i rarely have dreams like this with my parents in them. they both passed away a couple years ago.

this past week i had a dream of dying. again it only lasted a few seconds because it was at the moment of death. i remember falling to the ground, but i didn't feel anything because i realized i was dead when i hit the ground. then my family came to me and they were in shock and disbelief. they were calling me and crying. i could still see them, and i saw when i fell. like i was already dead but my spirit could still see everything for the last seconds. in those last seconds i remember thinking, shit i'm dead! so this is how it feels to die. then i felt sadness for my family. i wanted to tell them i could still see them, but i couldn't. then my spirit disappeared and i woke up.

just thought i'd share this with you as it was very moving. like i could experience death and dying and describe it to others. just wondered if anyone else here had a near death experience, or similar types of dreams.



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August 7th, 2011 at 7:26:14 AM permalink
I recall reading somewhere that if you have a dream like that, where you're falling off a cliff or something, that you'll wake up before you hit ground. If you actually hit ground in the dream, then you'll die in your sleep.

Personally, I'd just chalk it up to "dreams are weird" and leave it at that.
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August 7th, 2011 at 7:59:12 AM permalink
I had a very vivid dream the other night where I kept finding doors to my house unlocked and had to go around kicking uncooperative but harmless people out of room after room after room. I don't have a house with room after room after room. [g]

Someone told me that they found it upsetting to have their parents visit them in their dreams after they died. I didnt exactly know what he meant, then my parents died and I found out. They can come to you in your dreams in a very vivid way, like a supernatural visitation. It is upsetting!

So I sympathize with you for that, but the "dying" dreams tend to not upset me. Anymore I seem to also be an observer, and even realize it is just a dream when I dream them, which hasnt been often.
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August 7th, 2011 at 8:15:00 AM permalink
My father died many years ago when I was a teenager, and I have had many, many dreams with him in them. Just as often today as when he first passed away. I also notice that if I am in a house, it is usually the house I grew up in and lived in until I was 17, not the many other places I have lived since.
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August 7th, 2011 at 8:23:13 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit


Someone told me that they found it upsetting to have their parents visit them in their dreams after they died. I didnt exactly know what he meant, then my parents died and I found out. They can come to you in your dreams in a very vivid way, like a supernatural visitation. It is upsetting!



My father died while I was abroad, but being out of reach I could not possibly know about this. And yet at the very day of his death I had random thoughts about him, having dreams with him appearing the following nights. I felt quite uncomfortable and in feared somehow he might have died. Then I decided to call home and found out about his death. This was the creepiest moment in my life, but in retrospective I'm pretty sure human mind plays tricks on yourself.
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August 7th, 2011 at 9:07:32 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I recall reading somewhere that if you have a dream like that, where you're falling off a cliff or something, that you'll wake up before you hit ground. If you actually hit ground in the dream, then you'll die in your sleep.



You might what to think about why that theory is a bunch of hooey... :)

(and I'm not dismissing it on a disbelief in dreams being predictive)
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August 7th, 2011 at 9:13:32 AM permalink
Quote: inap

..i didn't feel anything because i realized i was dead..

Cogito Ergo Sum. I wouldn't worry about it. You're going to die, just not today.
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August 7th, 2011 at 9:18:29 AM permalink
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You might what to think about why (the if-you-hit-ground-in-dream-you-die) theory is a bunch of hooey... :)



I knew a girl who said she would hit the ground in her dreams! she lived to tell about it [g]
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August 7th, 2011 at 2:14:34 PM permalink
Shit, I'm flying back home to Vegas tonight from Texas. Thank you, voice of DOOOOM......
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August 7th, 2011 at 5:54:05 PM permalink
I had a dream involving Kim Kardashian, a Tijuana mule, and a slip-n-slide.

Go figure.
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August 7th, 2011 at 6:20:44 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I recall reading somewhere that if you have a dream like that, where you're falling off a cliff or something, that you'll wake up before you hit ground. If you actually hit ground in the dream, then you'll die in your sleep.



I think that is an urban legend.
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August 7th, 2011 at 6:51:00 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

I had a dream involving Kim Kardashian, a Tijuana mule, and a slip-n-slide.

Go figure.



Ok, we need video of that one!
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August 7th, 2011 at 7:06:47 PM permalink
Have you been watching Final Destination??? Dreams of death are scary. In one dream, I remember I was on an operating table with my ribs completely exposed. It was surreal. The centerline of my ribs were rotten like someone's teeth about to fall out. Instead of a heart, I had an egg yolk that was beating. So what's a guy to do right? I poked the center of my ribs, they cracked. Fell on the beating egg yolk. I felt my heart racing and my breathing increase. Then I woke up. Still in one piece.

Dreams of dead relatives can be scary and sometimes comforting. At some point in our lives, we all long to hold onto someone who meant a great deal to us.

Not to be superstitious or anything, perhaps you might want to avoid your next plane trip??
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August 7th, 2011 at 7:12:30 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I recall reading somewhere that if you have a dream like that, where you're falling off a cliff or something, that you'll wake up before you hit ground. If you actually hit ground in the dream, then you'll die in your sleep.



I second the Wizard: urban legend.

Think about it: How would you know?

We'd easily know of someone who awoke right before hitting the ground and/or dying. Certainly. But also those who did hit or died in a dream. And for those who die in their sleep, which happens often, we have no way of knowing what their last dreams were.

It's also a plot device in movies that deal with dreams in some form. I recall a TV movie long ago about people who could intrude in other people's dreams, with that canard present. Or the Matrix movies (not dreams, exactly, but, really...)
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August 7th, 2011 at 7:12:41 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I recall reading somewhere that if you have a dream like that, where you're falling off a cliff or something, that you'll wake up before you hit ground. If you actually hit ground in the dream, then you'll die in your sleep.

Personally, I'd just chalk it up to "dreams are weird" and leave it at that.



I don't know how they would prove that you will die in your sleep after that dream. Like saying lethal injection is painless, who are they going to ask to verify it?

I have heard a dream where you die is an omen. I had a grandmother who had a dream where her dog told her she was dead and a few weeks later she was. Correlation <> causation, but I can but that the mind shouldn't let you experience your own death.

As to "falling" dreams I have them all the time, not off cliffs but slip and falls. They are real ebough that I can hyperextend my leg or nearly fall out of bed. Drives me nuts.
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August 7th, 2011 at 7:37:57 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

I second the Wizard: urban legend.

Think about it: How would you know?



I heard it direct from a ghost.
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August 7th, 2011 at 7:51:33 PM permalink
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Shit, I'm flying back home to Vegas tonight from Texas.



Leaving Texas is always a good thing...
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August 7th, 2011 at 7:51:52 PM permalink
"How would you know?"

The same way George Carlin knew about the Two Minute Warning.

YouTube Skip to about 1:17.
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August 7th, 2011 at 8:09:22 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

"How would you know?"

The same way George Carlin knew about the Two Minute Warning.



Good ending. But he doesn't say how he found out, now :P
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August 8th, 2011 at 9:00:20 AM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

Shit, I'm flying back home to Vegas tonight from Texas. Thank you, voice of DOOOOM......




It could be worse Dan. Back in the 60's, when I was in USAF, after driving a buddy to the airport to catch his flight home.
Well, remember I was young and stupid then, always invested a dollar.

From the 1950s until well into the 1970s, vending machines were used at American airports to sell life insurance policies covering death, in the event that the buyer's flight crashed. Such policies were quite profitable, because the risk of a plane crash is low.
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August 8th, 2011 at 9:11:05 AM permalink
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From the 1950s until well into the 1970s, vending machines were used at American airports to sell life insurance policies covering death, in the event that the buyer's flight crashed. Such policies were quite profitable, because the risk of a plane crash is low.



I remember them. I think they persisted into the early 80s, too. And didn't the mad bomber in the first "Airport" movie take out a policy in such a machine prior to baording? Or was that on the first "Airplane!" movie?
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August 8th, 2011 at 9:11:36 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I think that is an urban legend.



Yes, rather my point originally... it's not even an urban legend... the very story itself does not hang together logically if you think about it...
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August 8th, 2011 at 9:28:49 AM permalink
The FBI, certain that the aircraft had been brought down by a bomb, performed background checks on the passengers. Many had purchased life insurance at the airport just before boarding. One such insuree was Daisie Eldora King, 53, a Denver businesswoman who was en route to Alaska to visit her daughter. When agents identified her handbag they found a number of newspaper clippings containing information about King's son, John Gilbert Graham, who had been arrested on a forgery charge in Denver in 1951. Graham, who held a grudge against his mother as the result of an unhappy childhood, was the beneficiary of both her insurance policies and her will. Agents also discovered that one of Mrs. King's restaurants, the Crown-A Drive-In in Denver, had been badly damaged in an explosion; Graham had insured the restaurant and then collected on the insurance following the mysterious blast.

Authorities were shocked to discover that there was no federal statute on the books at the time (1955) that made it a crime to blow up an airplane. Therefore, on the day after Graham's confession, the Colorado district attorney moved swiftly to prosecute Graham via the simplest possible route: premeditated murder committed against a single victim -- his mother, Mrs. King. Thus, despite the number of victims killed on Flight 629 along with Mrs. King, Graham was charged with only one count of first degree murder.

As the case progressed, Graham quickly recanted his confession, but at his 1956 trial his defense was unable to counter the massive amount of evidence presented by the prosecution. He was convicted of the murder of his mother and, after a few short delays, was executed in the Colorado State Penitentiary gas chamber on January 11, 1957. Before his execution, he said about the bombing, "as far as feeling remorse for these people, I don't. I can't help it. Everybody pays their way and takes their chances. That's just the way it goes."

That's just the way it goes !!
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August 8th, 2011 at 10:04:03 AM permalink
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purchased life insurance at the airport just before boarding



In 1955, insurance could be purchased for a few cents from vending machines in airport terminals. Seems like much less of an indicator considering that anyone bored while waiting for their flight might have stuck a few cents in the machine.
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August 8th, 2011 at 10:28:41 AM permalink
Even more amazing is a trial in 1956 and an execution in January of 1957.
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August 8th, 2011 at 10:34:54 AM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

Even more amazing is a trial in 1956 and an execution in January of 1957.



Yeah, that rocks!!
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August 8th, 2011 at 11:18:33 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I think that is an urban legend.



It has to be an urban legend. I have fallen seemingly great distances in my sleep and hit the ground and lived. But I have been killed in my dreams by being shot, stabbed, drowned (one of the scariest) and once by some biological virus.

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August 8th, 2011 at 11:42:50 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I think that is an urban legend.



Perhaps it was deduced statistically? Let's take the locations people dream of falling off: airplane, cliff, building rooftop. Say the average distance from ground is x. Let y be the distance fallen before you think 'oh shit im going to die/died' and wake up, adjusted for the slower reaction time while sleeping. Making assumptions for mean y and standard deviation, we can find out a percentage where y>x, i.e person doesn't wake up until they've at least reached the ground. If an abnormally small amount of people report waking up at or after impact, then maybe this theory has something to it. For the record I've done my share of falling in-dream and never hit the ground.
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August 8th, 2011 at 11:51:29 AM permalink
The one time I can recall dreaming about falling was at age 10 or so, and I fell out of bed in reality.

Another tiem I dreamt I could jump from the top of the stairs down two landings, turning in mid-air with the greatest of ease. But I wasn't scared when doing so, just astonished that I could do it.
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August 8th, 2011 at 12:58:03 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I recall reading somewhere that if you have a dream like that, where you're falling off a cliff or something, that you'll wake up before you hit ground. If you actually hit ground in the dream, then you'll die in your sleep.


In theory, it's possible that the shock could kill you, but the two far more likely results are, (a) the shock of hitting the ground wakes you up, or (b) somehow, you survive in the dream.
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August 8th, 2011 at 12:58:13 PM permalink
Quote: marksolberg

It has to be an urban legend. I have fallen seemingly great distances in my sleep and hit the ground and lived. But I have been killed in my dreams by being shot, stabbed, drowned (one of the scariest) and once by some biological virus.

Mark



i hate dreams where i'm being chased by some disfigured infected being, and just from a touch you become infected too! thank goodness i haven't had those for awhile.

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August 8th, 2011 at 1:10:18 PM permalink
Quote: marksolberg

It has to be an urban legend. I have fallen seemingly great distances in my sleep and hit the ground and lived. But I have been killed in my dreams by being shot, stabbed, drowned (one of the scariest) and once by some biological virus.

Mark



i hate when i dream that i'm being chased by some disfigured/infected being, and just from a touch you become infected too! thank goodness i haven't had one of those for awhile.

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August 8th, 2011 at 1:30:31 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

The one time I can recall dreaming about falling was at age 10 or so, and I fell out of bed in reality.

Another tiem I dreamt I could jump from the top of the stairs down two landings, turning in mid-air with the greatest of ease. But I wasn't scared when doing so, just astonished that I could do it.



when i was about the same age of 10 or so i dreamt i was being chased by a monster. i was literally trying to climb the wall next to my bed to get away. my mother was in shock and woke me.

funny, i always have dreams where i would just jump from the top of the stairs to the bottom. sometimes because i'm being chased and sometimes just because i think i can. it would be stairs with several flights and a hand rail. i would think, why stop now and just hold on to the hand rail and make the turn to go down all the flights without touching the ground until i got to the bottom.


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August 8th, 2011 at 2:51:07 PM permalink
Quote: inap

funny, i always have dreams where i would just jump from the top of the stairs to the bottom. sometimes because i'm being chased and sometimes just because i think i can. it would be stairs with several flights and a hand rail.



The stairs in the house I grew up in had 4 steps going down, then a landing that turned 90 degrees, next 12 or 14 steps, another landing with another 90 degree turn, then four more steps. Sometimes I'd jump the last two steps to the landing, or to the bottom floor. Once I jumped all 4 steps andnearly fell on landing.

So in my dream I'd be at the top and jump down, then pretty much fly down the steps making both 90 degree turns in mid-air. I wasn't running from anything or trying to get away; I'd just jumped because I wanted to.
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August 8th, 2011 at 7:46:22 PM permalink
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Didn't the mad bomber in the first "Airport" movie take out a policy in such a machine prior to baording? Or was that on the first "Airplane!" movie?

You were right the first time.
It was the first Airport movie.
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August 8th, 2011 at 8:01:25 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

You were right the first time.
It was the first Airport movie.



I thought so, but there was also someone with a bomb in "Airplane!" of course that movie had to satirize several "Airport" movies, not just one. I should get it on DVD one of these days...
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August 8th, 2011 at 10:35:43 PM permalink
Quote: heather

In 1955, insurance could be purchased for a few cents from vending machines in airport terminals. Seems like much less of an indicator considering that anyone bored while waiting for their flight might have stuck a few cents in the machine.



Ah yes, bored in the airport with some money in your pocket.

Hmm, what to do?

Hey, I know!

Put slots in the airport.

To hell with insurance, give em FALSE HOPE!
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August 9th, 2011 at 4:07:32 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Put slots in the airport.

To hell with insurance, give em FALSE HOPE!

I've won in the airport...once.
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