Miscellaneous Discussion Thread II
September 10th, 2025 at 6:11:33 AM
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The rights aren't "imaginary". They are enumerated in the US Constitution, state Constitutions, federal and state laws and federal and state binding court precedents. A government ID is needed for any number of things, but only those things, and not any other time.
Government IDs are needed all the time, for dozens and dozens of things. Which is why carrying one on you is being an adult.Quote:
Hospitals treat John Doe and Jane Doe with completely unknown medical histories all the time.
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Do you want to be treated as a John Doe or do you want them to be able to find your medical history and family?
Seriously, I do not get why some people on here get off on saying they have no reason to carry ID. Really, ever hear the saying, "just because you can does not mean you should?"
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Because the same Constitution the protects your right to say your unscientific drivel about refusing vaccines and protects your right to refuse said vaccines also protects your right to not need "zee papers" for going about your day, unless explicitly required. If asserting my right to privacy and to be free of 4th Amendment violations is getting off, count me in.
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You sound like those goofs on YT who tell the cops they are a "sovereign citizen" and not subject to laws. Hate to break it to you, but carrying ID is not "showing your papers." Ironically, there were people who wanted to require us to "show papers" that we had the vax in 2021. But it rarely ends well for those who tell the cops they do not have to show ID.
As to carrying ID, I remember in college how many people just did not get that they needed their ID for things. Mess hall to computer lab, you had to show it often. Mature kids understood and simply carried it in their wallets. It was part of life. Others didn't.
Personally I don't get leaving the house without your wallet which will have your ID in it. Same as putting on your pants. Do you leave your house without putting on your pants?
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If I leave my house without pants on and go for a walk, I'll most likely get arrested for indecent exposure. Depending on what I am doing without pants on they might just throw in lewd conduct as well. Of course, that's after all the men get over their desire to be me, and the women get over their desire to be with me.
If I leave my house without an ID to go for a walk, that's called "a normal day", because last I checked no public sidewalk has signs posted "IDs required for entry".
In the US, IDs aren't required, unless and until they are. Why is that so difficult with you?
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So, what do you do then if you have to produce ID for something? Because time to time it is. Why is being prepared hard for you?
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
September 10th, 2025 at 7:14:13 AM
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The rights aren't "imaginary". They are enumerated in the US Constitution, state Constitutions, federal and state laws and federal and state binding court precedents. A government ID is needed for any number of things, but only those things, and not any other time.
Government IDs are needed all the time, for dozens and dozens of things. Which is why carrying one on you is being an adult.Quote:
Hospitals treat John Doe and Jane Doe with completely unknown medical histories all the time.
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Do you want to be treated as a John Doe or do you want them to be able to find your medical history and family?
Seriously, I do not get why some people on here get off on saying they have no reason to carry ID. Really, ever hear the saying, "just because you can does not mean you should?"
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Because the same Constitution the protects your right to say your unscientific drivel about refusing vaccines and protects your right to refuse said vaccines also protects your right to not need "zee papers" for going about your day, unless explicitly required. If asserting my right to privacy and to be free of 4th Amendment violations is getting off, count me in.
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You sound like those goofs on YT who tell the cops they are a "sovereign citizen" and not subject to laws. Hate to break it to you, but carrying ID is not "showing your papers." Ironically, there were people who wanted to require us to "show papers" that we had the vax in 2021. But it rarely ends well for those who tell the cops they do not have to show ID.
As to carrying ID, I remember in college how many people just did not get that they needed their ID for things. Mess hall to computer lab, you had to show it often. Mature kids understood and simply carried it in their wallets. It was part of life. Others didn't.
Personally I don't get leaving the house without your wallet which will have your ID in it. Same as putting on your pants. Do you leave your house without putting on your pants?
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If I leave my house without pants on and go for a walk, I'll most likely get arrested for indecent exposure. Depending on what I am doing without pants on they might just throw in lewd conduct as well. Of course, that's after all the men get over their desire to be me, and the women get over their desire to be with me.
If I leave my house without an ID to go for a walk, that's called "a normal day", because last I checked no public sidewalk has signs posted "IDs required for entry".
In the US, IDs aren't required, unless and until they are. Why is that so difficult with you?
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So, what do you do then if you have to produce ID for something? Because time to time it is. Why is being prepared hard for you?
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Keep your ID with you in the bathtub. Put it under your pillow at night..Talk to it when you're lonely. Whatever you want to do with YOUR ID, I'm fine with. Not good enough? Well, too bad.
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September 10th, 2025 at 7:58:35 AM
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Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: GenoDRPh\Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: GenoDRPh
The rights aren't "imaginary". They are enumerated in the US Constitution, state Constitutions, federal and state laws and federal and state binding court precedents. A government ID is needed for any number of things, but only those things, and not any other time.
Government IDs are needed all the time, for dozens and dozens of things. Which is why carrying one on you is being an adult.Quote:
Hospitals treat John Doe and Jane Doe with completely unknown medical histories all the time.
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Do you want to be treated as a John Doe or do you want them to be able to find your medical history and family?
Seriously, I do not get why some people on here get off on saying they have no reason to carry ID. Really, ever hear the saying, "just because you can does not mean you should?"
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Because the same Constitution the protects your right to say your unscientific drivel about refusing vaccines and protects your right to refuse said vaccines also protects your right to not need "zee papers" for going about your day, unless explicitly required. If asserting my right to privacy and to be free of 4th Amendment violations is getting off, count me in.
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You sound like those goofs on YT who tell the cops they are a "sovereign citizen" and not subject to laws. Hate to break it to you, but carrying ID is not "showing your papers." Ironically, there were people who wanted to require us to "show papers" that we had the vax in 2021. But it rarely ends well for those who tell the cops they do not have to show ID.
As to carrying ID, I remember in college how many people just did not get that they needed their ID for things. Mess hall to computer lab, you had to show it often. Mature kids understood and simply carried it in their wallets. It was part of life. Others didn't.
Personally I don't get leaving the house without your wallet which will have your ID in it. Same as putting on your pants. Do you leave your house without putting on your pants?
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If I leave my house without pants on and go for a walk, I'll most likely get arrested for indecent exposure. Depending on what I am doing without pants on they might just throw in lewd conduct as well. Of course, that's after all the men get over their desire to be me, and the women get over their desire to be with me.
If I leave my house without an ID to go for a walk, that's called "a normal day", because last I checked no public sidewalk has signs posted "IDs required for entry".
In the US, IDs aren't required, unless and until they are. Why is that so difficult with you?
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So, what do you do then if you have to produce ID for something? Because time to time it is. Why is being prepared hard for you?
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If I am doing something that requires an ID, I make sure I have a suitable one with me. If I am doing something that doesn't, I may-or may not-both carrying one. If I have to I will, if I don't have to I may not. That, amigo, is true freedom and that is true choice.
September 10th, 2025 at 8:05:45 AM
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If I am doing something that requires an ID, I make sure I have a suitable one with me. If I am doing something that doesn't, I may-or may not-both carrying one. If I have to I will, if I don't have to I may not. That, amigo, is true freedom and that is true choice.
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If I leave the house I take it with me because I might well need it. That, amigo, is being a responsible adult.
Now, if a person decides they want "freedom" and go without it then get detained for an extended period because they needed it but didn't have it, well, they should not go crying about it.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
September 10th, 2025 at 8:09:11 AM
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some pretty shocking stats - to me anyway - from Google AI
I'm a fan of "Dateline" and other true crime shows where they just about always nail the perp - but that does not reflect reality
"AI Overview
In recent years, roughly half of the murders committed in the United States go unsolved, with FBI data from 2023 showing a clearance rate of about 58%.
This national trend of murders going unsolved is particularly high in some major American cities, with factors such as overwhelmed homicide detectives and a drop in overall clearance rates contributing to the problem. Over 250,000 murders were unsolved in the U.S. since 1980, with that number growing annually.
Key Statistics and Trends
Rising Number of Cold Cases: The number of unsolved homicides is rising by approximately 6,000 cases each year.
Contributing Factors
Overburdened Detectives: A significant number of homicide detectives are overworked, leading to difficulties in solving cases.
Data Inconsistencies: There are issues with state and local police departments reporting homicides to the FBI, and some reports are incomplete.
Focus on Specific Homicides: The Murder Accountability Project (MAP) has sued the Department of Justice and the FBI for failing to report thousands of homicides.
Growing Problem: The majority of homicides go unsolved in major American cities, highlighting a significant national problem. "
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some pretty shocking stats - to me anyway - from Google AI
I'm a fan of "Dateline" and other true crime shows where they just about always nail the perp - but that does not reflect reality
"AI Overview
In recent years, roughly half of the murders committed in the United States go unsolved, with FBI data from 2023 showing a clearance rate of about 58%.
This national trend of murders going unsolved is particularly high in some major American cities, with factors such as overwhelmed homicide detectives and a drop in overall clearance rates contributing to the problem. Over 250,000 murders were unsolved in the U.S. since 1980, with that number growing annually.
Key Statistics and Trends
Rising Number of Cold Cases: The number of unsolved homicides is rising by approximately 6,000 cases each year.
Contributing Factors
Overburdened Detectives: A significant number of homicide detectives are overworked, leading to difficulties in solving cases.
Data Inconsistencies: There are issues with state and local police departments reporting homicides to the FBI, and some reports are incomplete.
Focus on Specific Homicides: The Murder Accountability Project (MAP) has sued the Department of Justice and the FBI for failing to report thousands of homicides.
Growing Problem: The majority of homicides go unsolved in major American cities, highlighting a significant national problem. "
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the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
September 10th, 2025 at 8:33:25 AM
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Quote: lilredrooster.
some pretty shocking stats - to me anyway - from Google AI
I'm a fan of "Dateline" and other true crime shows where they just about always nail the perp - but that does not reflect reality
"AI Overview
In recent years, roughly half of the murders committed in the United States go unsolved, with FBI data from 2023 showing a clearance rate of about 58%.
This national trend of murders going unsolved is particularly high in some major American cities, with factors such as overwhelmed homicide detectives and a drop in overall clearance rates contributing to the problem. Over 250,000 murders were unsolved in the U.S. since 1980, with that number growing annually.
Key Statistics and Trends
Rising Number of Cold Cases: The number of unsolved homicides is rising by approximately 6,000 cases each year.
Contributing Factors
Overburdened Detectives: A significant number of homicide detectives are overworked, leading to difficulties in solving cases.
Data Inconsistencies: There are issues with state and local police departments reporting homicides to the FBI, and some reports are incomplete.
Focus on Specific Homicides: The Murder Accountability Project (MAP) has sued the Department of Justice and the FBI for failing to report thousands of homicides.
Growing Problem: The majority of homicides go unsolved in major American cities, highlighting a significant national problem. "
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Not really surprised murders can be hard to solve even if a lot of people were working on them The easier ones, are probably "instant rage". Most everyone else is trying not to leave clues.
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September 10th, 2025 at 8:48:20 AM
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Quote: rxwineNot really surprised murders can be hard to solve even if a lot of people were working on them Most everyone else is trying not to leave clues.
it's much harder now than it use to be not to leave clues
dna evidence is getting more and more probative - they can do much more now with tiny amounts
cameras are just about everywhere - I think just about every business has them
even if stuff is deleted from a phone or a computer techs can recover everything
I just saw a show that indicated that wifi data on a cellphone can tell police exactly where that phone and the person carrying it went
I tend to think that many homicides are not worked very hard - especially if the victim himself had a criminal history - which is pretty often - especially in big cities
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the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
September 10th, 2025 at 9:41:36 AM
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If I am doing something that requires an ID, I make sure I have a suitable one with me. If I am doing something that doesn't, I may-or may not-both carrying one. If I have to I will, if I don't have to I may not. That, amigo, is true freedom and that is true choice.
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If I leave the house I take it with me because I might well need it. That, amigo, is being a responsible adult.
Now, if a person decides they want "freedom" and go without it then get detained for an extended period because they needed it but didn't have it, well, they should not go crying about it.
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I expect the cops, when seeking to detaining me or ID me, to respect my 4th Amendment rights. If they do so, I wont be crying.
September 10th, 2025 at 11:02:52 AM
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Larry Ellison made $100 billion today and is now richer than Elon Musk. Unfortunately, my portfolio went in the other direction today.
You can't know everything, but you can know anything.
September 10th, 2025 at 11:20:26 AM
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If I am doing something that requires an ID, I make sure I have a suitable one with me. If I am doing something that doesn't, I may-or may not-both carrying one. If I have to I will, if I don't have to I may not. That, amigo, is true freedom and that is true choice.
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If I leave the house I take it with me because I might well need it. That, amigo, is being a responsible adult.
Now, if a person decides they want "freedom" and go without it then get detained for an extended period because they needed it but didn't have it, well, they should not go crying about it.
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I expect the cops, when seeking to detaining me or ID me, to respect my 4th Amendment rights. If they do so, I wont be crying.
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You seem to have an interest in the Fourth Amendment. Let's see what it says:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
I see a weasel word in there! That word is "unreasonable." Whose reason? What are the standards for something being reasonable?
Did you know that if the cops have a search warrant for your home they can come in, rip out the walls and the floors, leave the house in a state where it has to be condemned, find nothing, walk away snickering and saying "Have fun cleaning up that mess," and as long as the search was within the scope of the warrant and they can convince the court it was necessary to do that in order to execute the warrant, they owe you nothing? That's just how "reasonable" applies to a search of a property, and how it applies to the part where a cop is physically interacting with your person can be even worse.
Life isn't fair and the law isn't fair, and how reason is applied to a Fourth Amendment issue tends to be from the perspective of the state and its actors. What is reasonable for the cop to do, knowing his job is to apprehend criminals and to allow the courts to apply justice to a criminal. Being justice is the priority, if you are detained you will not be free to leave until they can be certain, in their own "reasonable" judgment, of who you are and where they can find you.
So if you would like the experience of spending a week in a jail with a bunch of thugs who know they won't be in there long enough to be concerned about making enemies, go ahead, be in public without ID. I would recommend providing to yourself some preexposure HIV prophylaxis before you do. But what do I know, I'm a Non-Doctor.
September 10th, 2025 at 11:24:00 AM
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September 10th, 2025 at 11:24:47 AM
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Quote: DRichLarry Ellison made $100 billion today and is now richer than Elon Musk. Unfortunately, my portfolio went in the other direction today.
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Whenever I hear about Larry Ellison, I can't help but think of Bernie Ebbers. I've no idea why, but that is the first thing I associate with his name.
Perhaps being #2 will make Musk try harder, or at least show up to work occasionally.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
September 10th, 2025 at 12:22:25 PM
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Quote: lilredrooster.
some pretty shocking stats - to me anyway - from Google AI
I'm a fan of "Dateline" and other true crime shows where they just about always nail the perp - but that does not reflect reality
"AI Overview
In recent years, roughly half of the murders committed in the United States go unsolved, with FBI data from 2023 showing a clearance rate of about 58%.
This national trend of murders going unsolved is particularly high in some major American cities, with factors such as overwhelmed homicide detectives and a drop in overall clearance rates contributing to the problem. Over 250,000 murders were unsolved in the U.S. since 1980, with that number growing annually.
Key Statistics and Trends
Rising Number of Cold Cases: The number of unsolved homicides is rising by approximately 6,000 cases each year.
Contributing Factors
Overburdened Detectives: A significant number of homicide detectives are overworked, leading to difficulties in solving cases.
Data Inconsistencies: There are issues with state and local police departments reporting homicides to the FBI, and some reports are incomplete.
Focus on Specific Homicides: The Murder Accountability Project (MAP) has sued the Department of Justice and the FBI for failing to report thousands of homicides.
Growing Problem: The majority of homicides go unsolved in major American cities, highlighting a significant national problem. "
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On top of that, how many of the “cleared” 58% put the wrong person(s) in prison? I would consider those unsolved as well!
It’s a dog eat dog world out there…
…or maybe it’s the other way around.
September 10th, 2025 at 12:56:19 PM
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How can this possibly be legal?
I'm trying to avoid politics here, so bear with me.
The leading candidate in the NYC Mayoral race is a controversial figure who has failed to unite the party behind him. Most polls have him at around 50%, with the current Mayor at 15% and a former Governor in single figures.
The White House is considering hiring Adams, which would likely cause him to withdraw.
A billionaire supporter of the President is alleged to have offered to place a huge wager on Cuomo for the current leading candidate if he drops out. A $100,00 wager on Cuomo today would pay millions
I'm trying to avoid politics here, so bear with me.
The leading candidate in the NYC Mayoral race is a controversial figure who has failed to unite the party behind him. Most polls have him at around 50%, with the current Mayor at 15% and a former Governor in single figures.
The White House is considering hiring Adams, which would likely cause him to withdraw.
A billionaire supporter of the President is alleged to have offered to place a huge wager on Cuomo for the current leading candidate if he drops out. A $100,00 wager on Cuomo today would pay millions
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
September 10th, 2025 at 1:00:24 PM
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How can this possibly be legal?
I'm trying to avoid politics here, so bear with me.
The leading candidate in the NYC Mayoral race is a controversial figure who has failed to unite the party behind him. Most polls have him at around 50%, with the current Mayor at 15% and a former Governor in single figures.
The White House is considering hiring the current, which would likely cause him to withdraw.
A billionaire supporter of the President is alleged to have offered to place a huge wager on Cuomo for the current leading candidate if he drops out. A $100,00 wager on Cuomo today would pay millions.
I'm trying to avoid politics here, so bear with me.
The leading candidate in the NYC Mayoral race is a controversial figure who has failed to unite the party behind him. Most polls have him at around 50%, with the current Mayor at 15% and a former Governor in single figures.
The White House is considering hiring the current, which would likely cause him to withdraw.
A billionaire supporter of the President is alleged to have offered to place a huge wager on Cuomo for the current leading candidate if he drops out. A $100,00 wager on Cuomo today would pay millions.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
September 10th, 2025 at 1:19:27 PM
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In the early 20th Century, straw hats were a very popular fashion statement. Over time, they came to be known as summer wear and September 15th was considered Felt Hat Day, when men would switch from straw hats to felt. This was at a time when over 98% of men wore hats.
In the Wall Street area of NYC, it became acceptable for men to knock off a man's straw hat if it was worn after September 15th. This unusual custom soon spread throughout NYC, and only the toughest men wore straw hats in the winter.
This went on for almost a decade and the knocking off of hats was a silly right of passage.
In 1915, a small group of teenagers decided to jump the deadline and on September 13th ran down Wall Street, knocking off every straw hat in sight. They evidently reached the dock area just as the dock workers were changing shifts, and the tough dockworkers made short work of the mostly teenage gang. The teenagers soon retreated, licking their wounds, and what was seen as an isolated incident seemed over. However, the next day the teenage gang returned, with many more men and this time they were armed with clubs and knives. A significant police presence by the docks prevented a brawl there, but the teenagers headed towards the 14th Street shopping district, attacking any man in a straw hat. By the afternoon, fights and riots had broken out all over NYC as men defended their rights to wear straw hats.
I don't find any evidence that straw hats were a political statement; they were simply a fashion statement. Photos from the time show most men wore straw hats in the summer.
In the Wall Street area of NYC, it became acceptable for men to knock off a man's straw hat if it was worn after September 15th. This unusual custom soon spread throughout NYC, and only the toughest men wore straw hats in the winter.
This went on for almost a decade and the knocking off of hats was a silly right of passage.
In 1915, a small group of teenagers decided to jump the deadline and on September 13th ran down Wall Street, knocking off every straw hat in sight. They evidently reached the dock area just as the dock workers were changing shifts, and the tough dockworkers made short work of the mostly teenage gang. The teenagers soon retreated, licking their wounds, and what was seen as an isolated incident seemed over. However, the next day the teenage gang returned, with many more men and this time they were armed with clubs and knives. A significant police presence by the docks prevented a brawl there, but the teenagers headed towards the 14th Street shopping district, attacking any man in a straw hat. By the afternoon, fights and riots had broken out all over NYC as men defended their rights to wear straw hats.
I don't find any evidence that straw hats were a political statement; they were simply a fashion statement. Photos from the time show most men wore straw hats in the summer.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
September 10th, 2025 at 1:19:28 PM
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UFO hearing: Newly released video appears to show US missile bouncing off object
the vid was first seen and made public at a Congressional hearing re Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) which is the Military Term for UFOs
you can see the UFO at 2:16 in the vid
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/congressman-shows-never-seen-video-230028789.html
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UFO hearing: Newly released video appears to show US missile bouncing off object
the vid was first seen and made public at a Congressional hearing re Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) which is the Military Term for UFOs
you can see the UFO at 2:16 in the vid
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/congressman-shows-never-seen-video-230028789.html
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the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
September 10th, 2025 at 1:20:28 PM
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Charlie Kirk was shot in Utah. Thoughts and prayers.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
September 10th, 2025 at 2:02:07 PM
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Quote: billryanCharlie Kirk was shot in Utah. Thoughts and prayers.
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He has been pronounced dead. I feel so sorry for his family as he truly was a family man who believed how important being one was.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
September 10th, 2025 at 3:00:10 PM
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Quote: billryanCharlie Kirk was shot in Utah. Thoughts and prayers.
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Never heard of him, will not affect me in any way.
You can't know everything, but you can know anything.
September 10th, 2025 at 3:07:33 PM
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BREAKING Ben Shapiro event at Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley is canceled in aftermath of Charlie Kirk shooting.
September 10th, 2025 at 3:33:11 PM
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All of this topic has the potential to get people involved suspended from the forum for some unknown designated number of days. Political speech is the main offense. Everything about this shooting reeks of politics, but we all cringe about the gruesome video that people want banned online where he may have bled out in seconds flat; or who is the shooter.
You're a new poster popping off and you only get a few posts a day as a newbie so cool it a bit if you want to talk gambling later on. The moderators here tend to nuke newbies immediately with little provocation.
You're a new poster popping off and you only get a few posts a day as a newbie so cool it a bit if you want to talk gambling later on. The moderators here tend to nuke newbies immediately with little provocation.
September 10th, 2025 at 4:08:48 PM
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Last night's TV show: I saw Ed Deline beat up one of his employees in a fake '86ing for a high roller's view on Las Vegas last night. A maintenance man saw the assault and hired a lawyer to try to extract some money for trauma. The lawyer wanted $10K. Deline mused that the lawyer would get $3K-$4K in fees; so he said he'd give the maintenance man a $5K bonus if he fired the lawyer. The lawyer was immediately fired. Meanwhile a thug was hired to try to collect 6 figure sums from deadbeats who owed the Montecito.
https://lasvegastvshow.fandom.com/wiki/Ed_Deline
https://lasvegastvshow.fandom.com/wiki/Ed_Deline
September 10th, 2025 at 4:29:25 PM
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Quote: teddansonQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: billryanCharlie Kirk was shot in Utah. Thoughts and prayers.
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He has been pronounced dead. I feel so sorry for his family as he truly was a family man who believed how important being one was.
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Really? He seemed like quite a nasty and bigoted person frankly. Though I have to admit it is quite an impressive act of bigotry both cheerleading genocide in Gaza and being anti-semitic at the same time. I'm more concerned about the victims of the violence resulting from his charged rhetoric.
Nasty? How? He let people challenge him and had an intelligent discussion about it. Never once heard him say anything bigoted or "cheerleading genocide." I even once saw him let a person who disagreed with him read their talking points from their phone, answering every one brought up. He encouraged debate like few have ever done.
Quote:Americans like to do this weird thing where they treat the death of a rich white male like a tragedy...but poor white americans, ethnic minorities etc and other sub-humans, couldn't give a crap. And as for non-americans you can murder as many of them as you like, even children. This is why you are not very popular as a nation.
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What on earth are you talking about here? A black male gets killed by the cops even if a justified shooting and it is wall to wall news. Ever hear of Trayvon Martin? You might want to check into this before hating the USA.
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September 10th, 2025 at 5:03:34 PM
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Nasty? How? He let people challenge him and had an intelligent discussion about it. Never once heard him say anything bigoted or "cheerleading genocide."
He was a vocal supporter of the genocide in Gaza. As you well know. That is what your country is known for around the world. Bankrolling genocide. That is what everyone who is not a retarded redneck who voted for Trump thinks of when they think of America. Not just me, or your enemies, neutral countries, your allies, everywhere on earth outside of Israel. A country which elected a fucking rapist. A man with 92 different fraud cases pending. A country that elected two fucking presidents in a row that cannot form complete sentences with senile dementia. A country that decided to fuck the global economy for no reason other than its own vanity.
The self-delusion and arrogance of you people is vomit-inducing.
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Yeah OK Lord Haw-Haw. Please follow your leader and report to the bunker with Ava.
September 10th, 2025 at 5:11:12 PM
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The tariffs will kill us all!
Hershey's just sent Sheetz a memo that they will be raising prices 26% next week on chocolate bars.
Hershey's just sent Sheetz a memo that they will be raising prices 26% next week on chocolate bars.
September 10th, 2025 at 6:37:56 PM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: GenoDRPh
If I am doing something that requires an ID, I make sure I have a suitable one with me. If I am doing something that doesn't, I may-or may not-both carrying one. If I have to I will, if I don't have to I may not. That, amigo, is true freedom and that is true choice.
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If I leave the house I take it with me because I might well need it. That, amigo, is being a responsible adult.
Now, if a person decides they want "freedom" and go without it then get detained for an extended period because they needed it but didn't have it, well, they should not go crying about it.
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I expect the cops, when seeking to detaining me or ID me, to respect my 4th Amendment rights. If they do so, I wont be crying.
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You seem to have an interest in the Fourth Amendment. Let's see what it says:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
I see a weasel word in there! That word is "unreasonable." Whose reason? What are the standards for something being reasonable?
Did you know that if the cops have a search warrant for your home they can come in, rip out the walls and the floors, leave the house in a state where it has to be condemned, find nothing, walk away snickering and saying "Have fun cleaning up that mess," and as long as the search was within the scope of the warrant and they can convince the court it was necessary to do that in order to execute the warrant, they owe you nothing? That's just how "reasonable" applies to a search of a property, and how it applies to the part where a cop is physically interacting with your person can be even worse.
Life isn't fair and the law isn't fair, and how reason is applied to a Fourth Amendment issue tends to be from the perspective of the state and its actors. What is reasonable for the cop to do, knowing his job is to apprehend criminals and to allow the courts to apply justice to a criminal. Being justice is the priority, if you are detained you will not be free to leave until they can be certain, in their own "reasonable" judgment, of who you are and where they can find you.
So if you would like the experience of spending a week in a jail with a bunch of thugs who know they won't be in there long enough to be concerned about making enemies, go ahead, be in public without ID. I would recommend providing to yourself some preexposure HIV prophylaxis before you do. But what do I know, I'm a Non-Doctor.
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I have absolutely no idea what you are getting at. Somehow, it looks like you don't either.
September 10th, 2025 at 8:42:40 PM
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Quote: DRichQuote: billryanCharlie Kirk was shot in Utah. Thoughts and prayers.
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Never heard of him, will not affect me in any way.
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Thanks to billryan for his expressed sentiments.
DRich, you probably never heard of George Floyd either before he died, but I assume that you have been affected, at least indirectly, by his death.
The horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk also has the potential to change the nation. I suspect it will indeed affect all of us at least indirectly, and I won't say more than that to avoid saying anything political.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
September 10th, 2025 at 9:26:29 PM
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Quote: gordonm888Quote: DRichQuote: billryanCharlie Kirk was shot in Utah. Thoughts and prayers.
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Never heard of him, will not affect me in any way.
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Thanks to billryan for his expressed sentiments.
DRich, you probably never heard of George Floyd either before he died, but I assume that you have been affected, at least indirectly, by his death.
The horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk also has the potential to change the nation. I suspect it will indeed affect all of us at least indirectly, and I won't say more than that to avoid saying anything political.
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Events like this today make the ban on politics here more understandable.
In a Masonic lodge (I'm not, but I know a few guys who are) discussion of politics and religion is not permitted. It causes conflict within the fraternity which interferes with the business of the lodge. I think I know why it does that: taking a side for political power, or the Almighty Power, makes you feel powerful too. So if I'm arguing politics on some website it can make me feel like I'm the savior of the free world and my adversary is the Devil. In reality we're both just having a verbal wank to our own megalomaniacal fantasy, where instead of imagining that Farrah Fawcett is going to come down off the poster on the wall and into my bed, I'm imaging that someone in politics actually cares what I think, and is going to call me up and ask me to join the team and save the free world.
September 11th, 2025 at 2:40:07 AM
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The horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk also has the potential to change the nation. I suspect it will indeed affect all of us at least indirectly, and I won't say more than that to avoid saying anything political.
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Currently I am filing it under, "If you strike me down I will become more powerful than you can imagine." (Apologies to Obie-1 if I butchered that.)
I assure it that since yesterday there have been tens of millions of searches for his videos on YouTube. Most will probably find he was very likable.
On a different note. Wikipedia had an article on the shooting before his death was confirmed. Showing what a new age we are in.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
September 11th, 2025 at 10:46:09 AM
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Quote: gordonm888Quote: DRichQuote: billryanCharlie Kirk was shot in Utah. Thoughts and prayers.
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Never heard of him, will not affect me in any way.
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Thanks to billryan for his expressed sentiments.
DRich, you probably never heard of George Floyd either before he died, but I assume that you have been affected, at least indirectly, by his death.
The horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk also has the potential to change the nation. I suspect it will indeed affect all of us at least indirectly, and I won't say more than that to avoid saying anything political.
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Sandy Hook did almost nothing, IMO. Which is worse?
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September 11th, 2025 at 11:33:45 AM
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Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: gordonm888
The horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk also has the potential to change the nation. I suspect it will indeed affect all of us at least indirectly, and I won't say more than that to avoid saying anything political.
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Currently I am filing it under, "If you strike me down I will become more powerful than you can imagine." (Apologies to Obie-1 if I butchered that.)
I assure it that since yesterday there have been tens of millions of searches for his videos on YouTube. Most will probably find he was very likable.
On a different note. Wikipedia had an article on the shooting before his death was confirmed. Showing what a new age we are in.
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I take it as an example of something we all were supposed to have learned in the schoolyard: what happens when violence is a one-way street.
If you had a good teacher you learned about it in your history class as well. That is even worse than what happens in the schoolyard.
September 11th, 2025 at 11:39:09 AM
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Quote: rxwineQuote: gordonm888Quote: DRichQuote: billryanCharlie Kirk was shot in Utah. Thoughts and prayers.
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Never heard of him, will not affect me in any way.
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Thanks to billryan for his expressed sentiments.
DRich, you probably never heard of George Floyd either before he died, but I assume that you have been affected, at least indirectly, by his death.
The horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk also has the potential to change the nation. I suspect it will indeed affect all of us at least indirectly, and I won't say more than that to avoid saying anything political.
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Sandy Hook did almost nothing, IMO. Which is worse?
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Oh but it did do something!
It set us off on a nationwide effort to ensure that, if a maniac walks into a school and starts shooting people, absolutely no one in that building will be prepared to shoot back.
September 11th, 2025 at 12:37:36 PM
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Quote: gordonm888Quote: EvenBobQuote: billryanA few years ago, when I lived in Vegas, I almost bought a Rolls-Royce. It was at auction, and indications are it would go for about 20K. I figured I could flip it for a five-figure profit. The day of the auction, I'm looking through the glove compartment when I come across a bill for a routine brake job- it was over $6,000. I realized I was out of my league, and it ultimately sold for $32,000.
Today I'm reading about the new Bugatti supercar. An oil change is $25,000. The transmission filter alone is $1,000. I flipped when I found out a motor for a rear window on my BMW was $400. Owning a Bugatti would be the death of me.
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My first thought is that it would be the death of you because if you manage to get into the front seat you could never get out again. If your weight is anything like you've reported, you would starve to death before you could get out. That's what you meant right?
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Three day suspension for a personal insult.
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I don't usually complain about suspensions but this one is a little over the top. Here's why. Many times Bill Ryan has told us that he's obese, that he weighs close to 300 lb. A Bugatti is a small car. He said owning a Bugatti would be the death of him. Here's what it says online.
'An obese individual would likely face significant difficulty fitting into a
Bugatti due to its limited interior space, low roofline, and narrow
racing-style seats. The challenge is not just about seating but also
about getting in and out of the vehicle.'
I simply put two facts together, Bill Ryan admits he's obese and if he managed to get into a Bugatti, chances are he couldn't get out. Where is the personal insult.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 11th, 2025 at 3:58:37 PM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: rxwineQuote: gordonm888Quote: DRichQuote: billryanCharlie Kirk was shot in Utah. Thoughts and prayers.
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Never heard of him, will not affect me in any way.
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Thanks to billryan for his expressed sentiments.
DRich, you probably never heard of George Floyd either before he died, but I assume that you have been affected, at least indirectly, by his death.
The horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk also has the potential to change the nation. I suspect it will indeed affect all of us at least indirectly, and I won't say more than that to avoid saying anything political.
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Sandy Hook did almost nothing, IMO. Which is worse?
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Oh but it did do something!
It set us off on a nationwide effort to ensure that, if a maniac walks into a school and starts shooting people, absolutely no one in that building will be prepared to shoot back.
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The cops in Uvalde were prepared to shoot back...but didn't. There was a school resource officer in Parkland, and he didn't shoot back either.
September 11th, 2025 at 4:18:52 PM
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Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkey
Oh but it did do something!
It set us off on a nationwide effort to ensure that, if a maniac walks into a school and starts shooting people, absolutely no one in that building will be prepared to shoot back.
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The cops in Uvalde were prepared to shoot back...but didn't. There was a school resource officer in Parkland, and he didn't shoot back either.
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And that illustrates the difference, and why relying on the police is not effective. Point a gun at any cop and you know what's next. But those cops were not personally at risk. Being armed outside the building, and being armed when you are one of the people who are about to get shot, are not the same thing. Going into the line of fire is only for the brave, but the worst coward will fire his weapon when he is already in the line of fire and he has no other way out. It's just a like a literal building fire; a fireman is brave enough to run into a burning building but the rest of us don't need any courage to run out of a burning building.
All school janitors should be armed. The janitor is usually a very pragmatic man, and he goes everywhere in the building so an attacker can never be sure where he is going to be.
September 11th, 2025 at 5:56:15 PM
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All school janitors should be armed. The janitor is usually a very pragmatic man, and he goes everywhere in the building so an attacker can never be sure where he is going to be.
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An irrational response to a threat that is not really there. We would have to run the numbers but my guess is that the average school would have a shooter once every 100 years. Even if they did, the janitor would have to be trained to use guns, and trained regular. Reality is not television where a person picks up a gun and shoots. Then add in it is beyond shooting, it is tactics.
Watching for problem kids would be more the way to go. And quit thinking you have to suspend kids who point their finger and yell "BANG!" Look for the ones with real social issues. Yeah, not easy but more effective.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
September 11th, 2025 at 6:28:58 PM
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On Jeopardy tonight one of the questions quoted the Wizard of odds. Not sure if it was a rerun
Happy days are here again
September 11th, 2025 at 7:23:27 PM
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Apparently Belarus is releasing prisoners for some "unknown" reason. Anyone else think those prisoners might be joining the Belarus army for a potential attack? Maybe it is just a coincidence that this is happening while Russia and Belarus are starting "exercises" along the border of Finland, Lithuania, and Poland? I can't imagine Russia is stupid enough to do it but they may tell Belarus to attack.
You can't know everything, but you can know anything.
September 11th, 2025 at 7:55:26 PM
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Quote: DRichApparently Belarus is releasing prisoners for some "unknown" reason. Anyone else think those prisoners might be joining the Belarus army for a potential attack? Maybe it is just a coincidence that this is happening while Russia and Belarus are starting "exercises" along the border of Finland, Lithuania, and Poland? I can't imagine Russia is stupid enough to do it but they may tell Belarus to attack.
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Good news, the reason is now known!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15088597/Brit-dozens-prisoners-released-Belarus-pardoned-dictator-Lukashenko-US-deal-lift-sanctions.html
I think they will need more than 52 for a successful attack. These were political prisoners who were released in exchange for removing the sanctions that prevented the Belarusians from buying Boeing parts.
September 12th, 2025 at 1:06:28 PM
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I was once buying that this is unexplained real phenomena but am becoming more suspicious about that as time goes on.Quote: lilredrooster.
UFO hearing: Newly released video appears to show US missile bouncing off object
the vid was first seen and made public at a Congressional hearing re Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) which is the Military Term for UFOs
you can see the UFO at 2:16 in the vid
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/congressman-shows-never-seen-video-230028789.html
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the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
September 12th, 2025 at 2:03:54 PM
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Quote: odiousgambitI was once buying that this is unexplained real phenomena but am becoming more suspicious about that as time goes on.Quote: lilredrooster.
UFO hearing: Newly released video appears to show US missile bouncing off object
the vid was first seen and made public at a Congressional hearing re Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) which is the Military Term for UFOs
you can see the UFO at 2:16 in the vid
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/congressman-shows-never-seen-video-230028789.html
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Suppose you built an electronic warfare device for creating visual and instrument artifacts (illusions) and presenting them to enemy pilots. What are some of the ways you could test it?
September 12th, 2025 at 2:17:52 PM
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I'm not sure how I'd test it, but it would be tested on our lunar bases, far from prying eyes.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
September 12th, 2025 at 2:22:54 PM
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Quote: billryanI'm not sure how I'd test it, but it would be tested on our lunar bases, far from prying eyes.
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Ah, but it needs to be tested on eyes! And very good eyes, with intelligence behind them. So I would test it on our own military pilots, during training and other situations where they are not going to be endangered by the distraction, and that looks like just how and where these events have been occurring.
September 12th, 2025 at 2:28:05 PM
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That is what the Mercury Seven Cloning program was designed for.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
September 12th, 2025 at 2:31:17 PM
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the new season started Monday so I would say not a rerun. You know our ownbeachbumbabs has appeared on jeopardy correct?Quote: HunterhillOn Jeopardy tonight one of the questions quoted the Wizard of odds. Not sure if it was a rerun
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September 12th, 2025 at 3:55:10 PM
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That is what the Mercury Seven Cloning program was designed for.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
September 12th, 2025 at 6:41:20 PM
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Yes I remember that.Quote: avianrandythe new season started Monday so I would say not a rerun. You know our ownbeachbumbabs has appeared on jeopardy correct?Quote: HunterhillOn Jeopardy tonight one of the questions quoted the Wizard of odds. Not sure if it was a rerun
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Happy days are here again
September 13th, 2025 at 5:54:45 AM
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pretty amazing -
"China will open the world’s tallest bridge this month, besting its own record with a structure that can fit almost two Eiffel Towers beneath it.
The Huajiang Grand Canyon Bridge in southwestern Guizhou, one of China’s poorest provinces, stands a staggering 2,050 feet above ground, making it almost twice the height of Paris’s landmark tower."
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pretty amazing -
"China will open the world’s tallest bridge this month, besting its own record with a structure that can fit almost two Eiffel Towers beneath it.
The Huajiang Grand Canyon Bridge in southwestern Guizhou, one of China’s poorest provinces, stands a staggering 2,050 feet above ground, making it almost twice the height of Paris’s landmark tower."
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the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
September 13th, 2025 at 6:18:39 AM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: gordonm888Quote: EvenBobQuote: billryanA few years ago, when I lived in Vegas, I almost bought a Rolls-Royce. It was at auction, and indications are it would go for about 20K. I figured I could flip it for a five-figure profit. The day of the auction, I'm looking through the glove compartment when I come across a bill for a routine brake job- it was over $6,000. I realized I was out of my league, and it ultimately sold for $32,000.
Today I'm reading about the new Bugatti supercar. An oil change is $25,000. The transmission filter alone is $1,000. I flipped when I found out a motor for a rear window on my BMW was $400. Owning a Bugatti would be the death of me.
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My first thought is that it would be the death of you because if you manage to get into the front seat you could never get out again. If your weight is anything like you've reported, you would starve to death before you could get out. That's what you meant right?
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Three day suspension for a personal insult.
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I don't usually complain about suspensions but this one is a little over the top. Here's why. Many times Bill Ryan has told us that he's obese, that he weighs close to 300 lb. A Bugatti is a small car. He said owning a Bugatti would be the death of him. Here's what it says online.
'An obese individual would likely face significant difficulty fitting into a
Bugatti due to its limited interior space, low roofline, and narrow
racing-style seats. The challenge is not just about seating but also
about getting in and out of the vehicle.'
I simply put two facts together, Bill Ryan admits he's obese and if he managed to get into a Bugatti, chances are he couldn't get out. Where is the personal insult.
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In a conversation that was completely unrelated to "weight" you injected a comment mocking a forum member about his body. We are not supposed to be discussing the personal characteristics of forum members. We are not supposed to be body shaming. The fact that a member has previously revealed a fact about themselves (such as age, figure flaw, disability, ethnicity) does not make it fair game for you to helicopter into a conversation and randomly joke about the personal characteristic that they once revealed. Especially when your relationship with said forum member cannot be interpreted as warm and collegial.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
