Miscellaneous Discussion Thread II
Quote: AZDuffmanFound this in my Facebook feed!
GM used to work on all kinds of neat stuff like this. It says how profitable they had to have been to have a lab with this kind of thinking. Yes, we ended up using satellites and our screens would be far better, still....WOW!
Yet shortly after this they would let their entire business fall apart piece by piece. How could they think on this level but yet not check that the inner fenders on the Vega were coated when dipped in primer possibly leaving air pockets?
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I got my first driver's license 60 years ago this summer and during driver's training they showed us a movie from General Motors about how in the future there will be lines strung along the freeways that would drive the car for you with radio signals. Every 25 miles or so there would be a manned station that maintained it. They actually showed a family eating a picnic lunch in the car while it was driving itself and then they all took a nap. 60 years ago and that still hasn't happened.
In fact here's one from 1956 that's pretty cool. This is 70 years ago and we still don't have it.
Quote: billryanIsn't GM a leader in EV technology? The typical GM car has more computer power than the Pentagon had in the 1960s and is incredibly safer than GM's 1970s models.
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I don't know about a "leader." Mary Barra bet the company on EVs same as Roger Smith did on FWD in the 1980s. Lately she is backing off as EV demand is not what the elites believed it is.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: billryanIsn't GM a leader in EV technology? The typical GM car has more computer power than the Pentagon had in the 1960s and is incredibly safer than GM's 1970s models.
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I don't know about a "leader." Mary Barra bet the company on EVs same as Roger Smith did on FWD in the 1980s. Lately she is backing off as EV demand is not what the elites believed it is.
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"Why not hybrids?"
I think consumers have figured out that there is no innocent answer to that question.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: billryanIsn't GM a leader in EV technology? The typical GM car has more computer power than the Pentagon had in the 1960s and is incredibly safer than GM's 1970s models.
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I don't know about a "leader." Mary Barra bet the company on EVs same as Roger Smith did on FWD in the 1980s. Lately she is backing off as EV demand is not what the elites believed it is.
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"Why not hybrids?"
I think consumers have figured out that there is no innocent answer to that question.
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Hybrids are catching on, but they are going about it wrong. They should do the pure Volt thing, gas-electric. Not a gas engine helped time to time. A gas engine charging the battery for the electric.
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Hybrids are catching on, but they are going about it wrong. They should do the pure Volt thing, gas-electric. Not a gas engine helped time to time. A gas engine charging the battery for the electric.
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I thought most of the Hybrids were gas generators for the electric motor, not gas assisted. Of course, I really don't know much about them that was just my assumption.
Quote: DRichQuote: AZDuffman
Hybrids are catching on, but they are going about it wrong. They should do the pure Volt thing, gas-electric. Not a gas engine helped time to time. A gas engine charging the battery for the electric.
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I thought most of the Hybrids were gas generators for the electric motor, not gas assisted. Of course, I really don't know much about them that was just my assumption.
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In most the electric motor is a helper, it starts at lights and eventually the gas kicks in. On "mild" versions the gas engine never shuts off.
The problem is marketing vs engineering. A mild hybrid on a pickup saves more gas than a full hybrid on a smaller car, but the mpg is more on the car so that is where marketing takes over. Typical American buyers.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: billryanIsn't GM a leader in EV technology? The typical GM car has more computer power than the Pentagon had in the 1960s and is incredibly safer than GM's 1970s models.
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I don't know about a "leader." Mary Barra bet the company on EVs same as Roger Smith did on FWD in the 1980s. Lately she is backing off as EV demand is not what the elites believed it is.
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"Why not hybrids?"
I think consumers have figured out that there is no innocent answer to that question.
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Hybrids are catching on, but they are going about it wrong. They should do the pure Volt thing, gas-electric. Not a gas engine helped time to time. A gas engine charging the battery for the electric.
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There are a lot of different ways to do it. It all depends on what you want the finished product to be able to do. I have a plug-in hybrid now, which means I could never buy gas as long as I am willing to spend a few hours charging every 25 miles, or I can drive 600 miles on a tank of gas and disregard charging or the fact that it is a hybrid.
Now if I wanted to electrically power a motorized car that is capable of running nonstop, no downtime longer than what it takes to refill a fuel tank and drain lizard, a >95% duty cycle, I come up with a need for a diesel generator of 30-50 HP output. And that's fine, that can still be a very small and efficient engine and there will be plenty of room for it and a fuel tank if you don't need all those batteries, but as of now there isn't a lot of equipment available in that capacity range. Closest thing would be the diesel generator kits sailors use on their sailing yachts. It gives you electricity for your desalinators and everything else, some propulsion, heat where you need it. But kit like that would have to be developed for road automotive and no one has taken that risk yet, because of certain fears related to a certain general topic.
I ate in, and when I got to the car, I was at 227. Another ten minutes got me to 250. For some reason, the battery charges slowly until you get to 20% and then slows down when you hit 80%. It took half as long from 80% to 88% as it did from 20% to 80%
My Honda doesn't connect to Tesla's network without an adapter. Most Prologue owners I talk to online insist it is worth the couple of hundred dollars to buy one.
I really enjoy the town of Alpine. I spent a lot of last summer there, but it is problematic with my EV. It's 68 miles to the nearest charger, so I need to head there when I'm at about 100 miles, and it will be around 160 when I get back, so I'm effectively getting about fifty miles of exploring per fill-up. The solution is to avoid Alpine.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: billryanIsn't GM a leader in EV technology? The typical GM car has more computer power than the Pentagon had in the 1960s and is incredibly safer than GM's 1970s models.
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I don't know about a "leader." Mary Barra bet the company on EVs same as Roger Smith did on FWD in the 1980s. Lately she is backing off as EV demand is not what the elites believed it is.
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"Why not hybrids?"
I think consumers have figured out that there is no innocent answer to that question.
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Hybrids are catching on, but they are going about it wrong. They should do the pure Volt thing, gas-electric. Not a gas engine helped time to time. A gas engine charging the battery for the electric.
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There are a lot of different ways to do it. It all depends on what you want the finished product to be able to do. I have a plug-in hybrid now, which means I could never buy gas as long as I am willing to spend a few hours charging every 25 miles, or I can drive 600 miles on a tank of gas and disregard charging or the fact that it is a hybrid.
Now if I wanted to electrically power a motorized car that is capable of running nonstop, no downtime longer than what it takes to refill a fuel tank and drain lizard, a >95% duty cycle, I come up with a need for a diesel generator of 30-50 HP output. And that's fine, that can still be a very small and efficient engine and there will be plenty of room for it and a fuel tank if you don't need all those batteries, but as of now there isn't a lot of equipment available in that capacity range. Closest thing would be the diesel generator kits sailors use on their sailing yachts. It gives you electricity for your desalinators and everything else, some propulsion, heat where you need it. But kit like that would have to be developed for road automotive and no one has taken that risk yet, because of certain fears related to a certain general topic.
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The Volt needed more hp than that. Any kind of a diesel in a car will have too many issues. But I still say use the locomotive model but give the plug-in option. Cost is still an issue on plug-ins though.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyClosest thing would be the diesel generator kits sailors use on their sailing yachts. It gives you electricity for your desalinators and everything else, some propulsion, heat where you need it. But kit like that would have to be developed for road automotive and no one has taken that risk yet, because of certain fears related to a certain general topic.
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As I understand, diesel engines for marine applications are not subject to the same emissions controls as diesel engines for highway applications. High sulfur MDO is a fairly different animal than ULSD, and the SCR/DEF system is going to add a lot of weight - undesirable for a range extender engine.
There are a whole slew of reasons I expect that gasoline would be the fuel of choice for a range extender engine.
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There are a whole slew of reasons I expect that gasoline would be the fuel of choice for a range extender engine.
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Diesel engines are great for torque, not as much for horsepower. I am thinking as generator needs the higher RPM and HP of a gasoline engine. Just one thing.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: Dieter
There are a whole slew of reasons I expect that gasoline would be the fuel of choice for a range extender engine.
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Diesel engines are great for torque, not as much for horsepower. I am thinking as generator needs the higher RPM and HP of a gasoline engine. Just one thing.
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Power/weight ratio might be an issue. Speed should not be; a gear is a trivial thing, and since our goal is independent battery charging rather than grid intertie, there should be no 1800 or 3600 RPM requirement.
Personally, when it gets cold and the battery chemistry slows down, I like the comfort of a fuel with a -49°F flash point instead of trying to warm up diesel to whatever and then getting it to autoignite.
I was thinking, telling them I was going to call the department to see if they sent anyone to my house. Of course, if the guy starts shooting through the door, that's off the table. (never stand right in front of the door, aye? if you're concerned)
Quote: DieterQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: Dieter
There are a whole slew of reasons I expect that gasoline would be the fuel of choice for a range extender engine.
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Diesel engines are great for torque, not as much for horsepower. I am thinking as generator needs the higher RPM and HP of a gasoline engine. Just one thing.
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Power/weight ratio might be an issue. Speed should not be; a gear is a trivial thing, and since our goal is independent battery charging rather than grid intertie, there should be no 1800 or 3600 RPM requirement.
Personally, when it gets cold and the battery chemistry slows down, I like the comfort of a fuel with a -49°F flash point instead of trying to warm up diesel to whatever and then getting it to autoignite.
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Power/weight should not enter into it. The point is we want to use the electric motor, which is more efficient than the gas engine to run the car. We want to use the gas engine to charge the electric because it can be refueled far more efficiently than the electric.
When driving and you hit the gas you should not even hear a difference in the gas engine until it charges the battery. It can be set to just go to the most efficient RPM to do so.
BUT.........................this was too simple for GM and the Volt, they had it set so the gas engine could "help" the electric if needed. Why?
Theoretically you could even use a turbine engine to charge if that could be made more efficient.
TRIVIA: In what movie did a Chrysler turbine car get its own credit?
Quote: EvenBobQuote: gordonm888let me just offer my opinion is that tuttigym has a perfectly sound explanation reconciling his past and present statements of his age. IMO Evenbob has been ungentlemanly in his comments and refusal to admit that he was wrong.
Question for the forum regulars: Is anyone older than tuttigym, who has recently had his 84th birthday?
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But then again you don't know the whole story, there's way more to this than what's going on and I'm not going to get into it here. It has nothing to do with him being 82 or 84 or 106. And he knows it. Now he'll post that, what, I don't know anything, what are you talking about, I'm totally innocent. To which my response is, whatever.
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What, oh come on, "the whole story"? A cowardly post as usual when challenged "way more to this than what's going on"?? ""I'm not going to get to here." Why not? Cat got your "tongue"? Hey, EB I have broad shoulders so let's hear it. Your post is a disjointed word salad which is typical of your world view.
tuttigym
Quote: Jimmy2TimesLast few days have been noticing large black ants in the garage and then a few in the front rooms of the house mostly near the air ducts and a few randomly crawling on the wall. Had an exterminator come in this morning to take care of the problem. After he left I turned on the TV to relax for a while - THEM was just starting on TCM!
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My favorite weird coincidence (or is it?) is:
I was watching Hitchcock’s “Psycho” at a dollar movie theater once upon a time, and someone decided to leave out the side door, during one of the scenes where Anthony Perkins is talking and the door made a loud creak, and bright light of the afternoon shown in, and in perfect timing Perkins appears to turn and look suddenly at that exact spot as if he hears and sees the offender. The audience erupted in a titter.
(I guess it was a titter. Definitely wasn’t a twitter)
It's the mid-1960s, and my sister and I are watching a cartoon in which a villain has turned the two Space Ghost twins to glass and threatens to shatter them unless Space Ghost surrenders.
The show goes to commercial, and suddenly, there is a loud explosion in the kitchen. The light fixture falls and shatters into a million pieces. My grandmother comes in and cannot understand why we find it so funny.
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There are a whole slew of reasons I expect that gasoline would be the fuel of choice for a range extender engine.
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Diesel engines are great for torque, not as much for horsepower. I am thinking as generator needs the higher RPM and HP of a gasoline engine. Just one thing.
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Power/weight ratio might be an issue. Speed should not be; a gear is a trivial thing, and since our goal is independent battery charging rather than grid intertie, there should be no 1800 or 3600 RPM requirement.
Personally, when it gets cold and the battery chemistry slows down, I like the comfort of a fuel with a -49°F flash point instead of trying to warm up diesel to whatever and then getting it to autoignite.
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I've had diesel cars and the only drawback to them was the lack of acceleration. Despite the torque, you don't have spark that you can use to speed up the engine, you just give it more fuel and it gets there when it gets there, but if they were using the hybrid system in common use now the electric motor has awesome acceleration and that could be used to get the diesel up to speed. In the case of an engine only providing electricity, the smaller cooling requirement of a diesel would make it easier to tuck it into any convenient location.
My car charges at a rate of 11 miles/hour and the charging power is limited to 3.6 KW. So to charge at 70 miles/hour, a reasonable average driving speed, would require 22.9 KW which is about 30 HP. From the generator, so the engine will need to be a bit bigger.
Quote: tuttigymQuote: EvenBobQuote: gordonm888let me just offer my opinion is that tuttigym has a perfectly sound explanation reconciling his past and present statements of his age. IMO Evenbob has been ungentlemanly in his comments and refusal to admit that he was wrong.
Question for the forum regulars: Is anyone older than tuttigym, who has recently had his 84th birthday?
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But then again you don't know the whole story, there's way more to this than what's going on and I'm not going to get into it here. It has nothing to do with him being 82 or 84 or 106. And he knows it. Now he'll post that, what, I don't know anything, what are you talking about, I'm totally innocent. To which my response is, whatever.
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What, oh come on, "the whole story"? A cowardly post as usual when challenged "way more to this than what's going on"?? ""I'm not going to get to here." Why not? Cat got your "tongue"? Hey, EB I have broad shoulders so let's hear it. Your post is a disjointed word salad which is typical of your world view.
tuttigym
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Almost exactly what I said he'd say. I must be clairvoyant.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: tuttigymQuote: EvenBobQuote: gordonm888let me just offer my opinion is that tuttigym has a perfectly sound explanation reconciling his past and present statements of his age. IMO Evenbob has been ungentlemanly in his comments and refusal to admit that he was wrong.
Question for the forum regulars: Is anyone older than tuttigym, who has recently had his 84th birthday?
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But then again you don't know the whole story, there's way more to this than what's going on and I'm not going to get into it here. It has nothing to do with him being 82 or 84 or 106. And he knows it. Now he'll post that, what, I don't know anything, what are you talking about, I'm totally innocent. To which my response is, whatever.
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What, oh come on, "the whole story"? A cowardly post as usual when challenged "way more to this than what's going on"?? ""I'm not going to get to here." Why not? Cat got your "tongue"? Hey, EB I have broad shoulders so let's hear it. Your post is a disjointed word salad which is typical of your world view.
tuttigym
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Almost exactly what I said he'd say. I must be clairvoyant.
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You really have a reading comprehension ...............
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Everyone should familiarize themselves with the Flame Warriors.
Everyone will find it to be, to some degree, a mirror.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150325031829/http://www.flamewarriorsguide.com/
Quote: billryanI had no idea they still made them. I wonder what his definition of a sports car is. The Mustang has been around since 1964, and the Corvette since the early 1950s.
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I don't know his definition but I am guessing most sold. Because it is cheap a lot were sold. I paid full MSRP ($15k) for mine because there was a waiting list but a deal fell through in St. George Utah so I drove there and got it the next day. It was a great car and one of those I wish I had held onto. I took a trip and drove that car from Vegas to South Florida, then to Nagara Falls, from there to Seattle and then back to Vegas. That was a lot of driving in three weeks.
Interesting side note, it was a manual transmission and I had never driven a manual before. Not even once. Somehow I was able to make that couple hour trip and only stalled it once.
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That is definitely my plan. If my savings can generate about $6k a month I think I will e fine with my $2.5k SS.
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I've been scoffing at people younger than me for decades who say things like, Social Security will be broke by the time I'm 62 so I'm glad I won't need it. Then when they get near 62 they realize how much Social Security is going to mean to their bottom line. And I like to say to them, gee, what happened to those days when you said it was going to be broke and you didn't care because you wouldn't need it. It's great if you don't need it but the vast majority of people do. Before Social Security and you quit working you had zero income after you retire and you better have a huge savings. Mostly what happened is people went to live with relatives if they were alone. Was extremely common to see one parent or both parents living with one of their children. My great-grandfather lived with his daughter till he was 95. That's why you had multiple children so one of them could probably take care of you when you were old. My dad said on the farm in West Virginia in the 1920s they had three relatives living with them but they all had jobs to do, even if it was only helping with the cooking.
Quote: billryanI'm looking at the magnificent, tapered flag pole on the White House's South Lawn and can't help thinking that is where Marine One normally makes its pickups.
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Trump had a good one- he described the installation of the flagpoles in their upright position as "lifting," and suggested he was not allowed to use the technically correct term for this process.
Quote:Authorities in the Philippines are searching for 34 missing men, who were accused of cheating while betting on livestreamed cockfights during the COVID pandemic
It's believed that the men were killed and dumped in a volcanic lake called Taal Lake by a group of six security guards
One of the suspects has come forward to give an interview, claiming that they killed and disposed of more than 100 bodies
the very first images from the powerful new Vera Rubin Telescope are here - more to come soon - see link
"Another snippet of Rubin’s photograph of the Virgo Cluster includes the spiral galaxies NGC 4411 and NGC 4411b. Above are a trio of interacting galaxies “Every time you zoom in, you find a new interesting detail,” said Clare Higgs, an outreach specialist working for Rubin.Credit...Vera C. Rubin Observatory/NSF/DOE"
this image is from about 50 million light years away
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https://archive.ph/TwIZW
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This is a picture of a 200-year-old catalpa tree and mine looks a lot like this, we call it the Halloween tree because it looks like it should be in a Halloween movie. It reminds me of the tree in the movie Poltergeist that tries to eat the kid. This tree was here before I was born and will probably outlive me which I feel pretty good about.
Not sure how old it is is but we call it the pussy tree
Not sure how old it is is but we call it the pussy tree
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Not sure how old it is is but we call it the pussy tree
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If you wanted, are you allowed to cut down the trees on your property?
Quote: AxelWolf
Not sure how old it is is but we call it the pussy tree
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It might be a bald cypress tree.
Quote:Brazilian citizen Juliana Marins slipped and fell down a cliff Saturday morning from a trail that overlooks Mount Rinjani’s famous crater lake. She descended deep into the volcano, but drone footage confirms she miraculously survived the more than 1,000-foot slide.
Gunung Rinjani National Park said in a statement Monday that Marins has been “successfully monitored using a drone in a position stuck on a rock cliff at a depth of 500 meters and visually motionless.” That is equivalent to 1,600 feet, but reports say Marin has slipped farther into the volcano since her initial fall on Saturday.
A drone spotted Juliana Marins moving on Saturday, hours after she tumbled into a volcano in Indonesia. Rescue efforts have so far fallen short. / TV Brasil
Marins’ condition remains unclear on day three of her being in the volcano, but the BBC reports rescuers heard screams for help on Saturday.
Quote: rxwineWoman falls into active volcano. Apparently she’s still down there.
Quote:Brazilian citizen Juliana Marins slipped and fell down a cliff Saturday morning from a trail that overlooks Mount Rinjani’s famous crater lake. She descended deep into the volcano, but drone footage confirms she miraculously survived the more than 1,000-foot slide.
Gunung Rinjani National Park said in a statement Monday that Marins has been “successfully monitored using a drone in a position stuck on a rock cliff at a depth of 500 meters and visually motionless.” That is equivalent to 1,600 feet, but reports say Marin has slipped farther into the volcano since her initial fall on Saturday.
A drone spotted Juliana Marins moving on Saturday, hours after she tumbled into a volcano in Indonesia. Rescue efforts have so far fallen short. / TV Brasil
Marins’ condition remains unclear on day three of her being in the volcano, but the BBC reports rescuers heard screams for help on Saturday.
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It's Brazil which is basically a third world suck hole, she can kiss her butt goodbye as far as rescue goes.
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It's Brazil which is basically a third world suck hole, she can kiss her butt goodbye as far as rescue goes.
Let me guess, you have never even been to Brazil? Don't believe everything you see on Tiktok. There are nice areas of Brazil.
Quote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
It's Brazil which is basically a third world suck hole, she can kiss her butt goodbye as far as rescue goes.
Let me guess, you have never even been to Brazil? Don't believe everything you see on Tiktok. There are nice areas of Brazil.
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Most nations have "nice areas." Brazil is loaded with slums. Brazil has historically been getting things together then has a crash that wipes it all out for a generation.
Quote: Jimmy2TimesDr. Sol Taylor, (aka, The Lincoln Cent Expert) estimates that 99.99% of all Lincoln cents struck before 1940 have been pulled from circulation. That leaves mostly cents from 1940 to 1981 (95% copper and 5% zinc). I think it is about 150 copper pennies to weigh a pound. Any thoughts on the what the percentage of post 1940 copper cents are still in circulation? Do you hoard copper cents?
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It's not that I hoard them, but I also don't carry any around, so whatever I get is tossed in a jar. I used to do that with all my change and cash it in every six months, but I rarely get change. I do have six rolls of Wheat pennies I bought at an auction a year or two ago, but they are in rough, non-collectible shape.
I rarely get a wheat back penny in change, which ended in 1958. A few years ago, my nephew found a battered old Indian penny. I don't separate the copper from the current mixture.
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It's Brazil which is basically a third world suck hole, she can kiss her butt goodbye as far as rescue goes.
Let me guess, you have never even been to Brazil? Don't believe everything you see on Tiktok. There are nice areas of Brazil.
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Most nations have "nice areas." Brazil is loaded with slums. Brazil has historically been getting things together then has a crash that wipes it all out for a generation.
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The wealth gap in Brazil is vast, with about 10% of the population living in abject poverty. It also has the largest middle class in South America and areas of tremendous wealth. In the 1960s, Brazil moved its capital inland to the newly scientifically designed city of Brasilia. The problem was that the city's designers didn't include any housing for the poor, at a time when hundreds of thousands of residents moved there in search of work. The result was worse slums than in Rio.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
It's Brazil which is basically a third world suck hole, she can kiss her butt goodbye as far as rescue goes.
Let me guess, you have never even been to Brazil? Don't believe everything you see on Tiktok. There are nice areas of Brazil.
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Most nations have "nice areas." Brazil is loaded with slums. Brazil has historically been getting things together then has a crash that wipes it all out for a generation.
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I agree, I just hate when someone who has never been to a place complains about it. If you have been there share your experiences and that might be helpful to others, if you haven't been there leave it to those who have.
Quote: DRichQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
It's Brazil which is basically a third world suck hole, she can kiss her butt goodbye as far as rescue goes.
Let me guess, you have never even been to Brazil? Don't believe everything you see on Tiktok. There are nice areas of Brazil.
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Most nations have "nice areas." Brazil is loaded with slums. Brazil has historically been getting things together then has a crash that wipes it all out for a generation.
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I agree, I just hate when someone who has never been to a place complains about it. If you have been there share your experiences and that might be helpful to others, if you haven't been there leave it to those who have.
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You don't actually have to visit a place to have knowledge about it. I've been watching half a dozen guys who travel the world on YouTube since 2016 and I've seen them go to Brazil many times and it's dangerous as hell there. There's almost nowhere you can go if you're European or an American where you won't get robbed. They will tell you stay in your Resort Hotel and only go to the beach that belongs to the hotel and even there you're not safe. Pickpockets are everywhere, no matter which hotel you're in people's rooms get robbed all the time because the staff is crooked. Many instances I've seen one of these guys have to hire one or two armed bodyguards to investigate the city they're in because they're in such danger. Roaming gangs of criminals are everywhere in Brazil.
"Brazil has a high crime rate due to a complex interplay of factors including
high levels of social inequality, drug trafficking, weak law enforcement, and
easy access to firearms. These issues, combined with a culture of violence
and high rates of impunity, contribute to a persistent crime situation."
Largely it's the problem of the blind men who examine the elephant. One only sees the trunk, and says it's like a snake, another the legs and says it's like a tree, etc, etc
Quote: EvenBobQuote: rxwineWoman falls into active volcano. Apparently she’s still down there.
Quote:Brazilian citizen Juliana Marins slipped and fell down a cliff Saturday morning from a trail that overlooks Mount Rinjani’s famous crater lake. She descended deep into the volcano, but drone footage confirms she miraculously survived the more than 1,000-foot slide.
Gunung Rinjani National Park said in a statement Monday that Marins has been “successfully monitored using a drone in a position stuck on a rock cliff at a depth of 500 meters and visually motionless.” That is equivalent to 1,600 feet, but reports say Marin has slipped farther into the volcano since her initial fall on Saturday.
A drone spotted Juliana Marins moving on Saturday, hours after she tumbled into a volcano in Indonesia. Rescue efforts have so far fallen short. / TV Brasil
Marins’ condition remains unclear on day three of her being in the volcano, but the BBC reports rescuers heard screams for help on Saturday.
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It's Brazil which is basically a third world suck hole, she can kiss her butt goodbye as far as rescue goes.
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As Calder pointed out above, the volcano, and thus any rescue attempt, is in Indonesia. I don’t believe that the woman being from Brazil will have any bearing on the success or failure of such an attempt outside of a possible language barrier…
Bob’s point about safety in Brazil is valid. I did go to Brazil a decade or so ago. Was aware of the risk, avoided ‘bad’ areas, and thoroughly enjoyed seeing Iguazu Falls. If my sole goal in life was to avoid risks I’d be like EB. But I am so happy for pretty much all of my travel experiences.
That being said, for those that can’t afford it, or don’t want the hassle, or don’t want the risks, Bob’s ‘travel while at home’ tactic is the next best thing.
