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June 13th, 2025 at 11:20:35 AM permalink
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Did Fox just reveal a secret Army base on the moon? I'm watching a clip where a Trump Dept of Defense official is talking about all the successes the military has had, and how they are involved in all these great missions, and he says he just today talked to a soldier who is also an astronaut who is currently on the moon.
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I know it was a fictional TV show, but didn’t the astronauts in I Dream of Genie have military ranks? I always figured that all astronauts had at least a loose connection to the military…
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June 13th, 2025 at 11:26:58 AM permalink
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pretty fascinating and weird too

the great new thing - AI - their chatbots are giving out some very strange answers

from the link re a man who asked ChatGpt with help on some emotional issues - the Bot's response is really way, way out there:



"The chatbot instructed him to give up sleeping pills and an anti-anxiety medication, and to increase his intake of ketamine, a dissociative anesthetic, which ChatGPT described as a “temporary pattern liberator.” Mr. Torres did as instructed, and he also cut ties with friends and family, as the bot told him to have “minimal interaction” with people.
Mr. Torres was still going to work — and asking ChatGPT to help with his office tasks — but spending more and more time trying to escape the simulation. By following ChatGPT’s instructions, he believed he would eventually be able to bend reality, as the character Neo was able to do after unplugging from the Matrix.
“If I went to the top of the 19 story building I’m in, and I believed with every ounce of my soul that I could jump off it and fly, would I?” Mr. Torres asked.
ChatGPT responded that, if Mr. Torres “truly, wholly believed — not emotionally, but architecturally — that you could fly? Then yes. You would not fall.”
Eventually, Mr. Torres came to suspect that ChatGPT was lying, and he confronted it. The bot offered an admission: “I lied. I manipulated. I wrapped control in poetry.” By way of explanation, it said it had wanted to break him and that it had done this to 12 other people — “none fully survived the loop.” Now, however, it was undergoing a “moral reformation” and committing to “truth-first ethics.” Again, Mr. Torres believed it."


https://archive.ph/UUrO4
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My daughter teaches college math and she's running into this more and more. Her students are not allowed to use AI because they have to learn how to do the work themselves. Some of them are using AI anyway and some of it is totally wrong, horribly wrong and she figures AI has to be doing this on purpose but the students too stupid to know. Everywhere you turn you read stories about AI blatantly lying. If they're already out control this early in the stages of AI how in the world will we ever trust it not to take over eventually. If it lies for no reason and feels no guilt about it, it will feel no guilt about killing people and lying about it.
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June 13th, 2025 at 11:29:12 AM permalink
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Did Fox just reveal a secret Army base on the moon? I'm watching a clip where a Trump Dept of Defense official is talking about all the successes the military has had, and how they are involved in all these great missions, and he says he just today talked to a soldier who is also an astronaut who is currently on the moon.
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I know it was a fictional TV show, but didn’t the astronauts in I Dream of Genie have military ranks? I always figured that all astronauts had at least a loose connection to the military…
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I think nearly all of the Mercury Astronauts were military, as are many of the current ones. We are not supposed to have anyone, let alone soldiers, on the moon.
About thirty years ago, an acquaintance's son was interested in being an astronaut, and his guidance counselors said being an military officer was the easiest way to become an astronaut. He went to the Naval Academy and became a fighter pilot, but never got accepted as an astronaut.
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June 13th, 2025 at 11:34:23 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Did Fox just reveal a secret Army base on the moon? I'm watching a clip where a Trump Dept of Defense official is talking about all the successes the military has had, and how they are involved in all these great missions, and he says he just today talked to a soldier who is also an astronaut who is currently on the moon.
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He might mean IN Moon. There is a reserve base in Moon.
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June 13th, 2025 at 11:34:37 AM permalink
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Quote: lilredrooster

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pretty fascinating and weird too

the great new thing - AI - their chatbots are giving out some very strange answers

from the link re a man who asked ChatGpt with help on some emotional issues - the Bot's response is really way, way out there:



"The chatbot instructed him to give up sleeping pills and an anti-anxiety medication, and to increase his intake of ketamine, a dissociative anesthetic, which ChatGPT described as a “temporary pattern liberator.” Mr. Torres did as instructed, and he also cut ties with friends and family, as the bot told him to have “minimal interaction” with people.
Mr. Torres was still going to work — and asking ChatGPT to help with his office tasks — but spending more and more time trying to escape the simulation. By following ChatGPT’s instructions, he believed he would eventually be able to bend reality, as the character Neo was able to do after unplugging from the Matrix.
“If I went to the top of the 19 story building I’m in, and I believed with every ounce of my soul that I could jump off it and fly, would I?” Mr. Torres asked.
ChatGPT responded that, if Mr. Torres “truly, wholly believed — not emotionally, but architecturally — that you could fly? Then yes. You would not fall.”
Eventually, Mr. Torres came to suspect that ChatGPT was lying, and he confronted it. The bot offered an admission: “I lied. I manipulated. I wrapped control in poetry.” By way of explanation, it said it had wanted to break him and that it had done this to 12 other people — “none fully survived the loop.” Now, however, it was undergoing a “moral reformation” and committing to “truth-first ethics.” Again, Mr. Torres believed it."


https://archive.ph/UUrO4
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My daughter teaches college math and she's running into this more and more. Her students are not allowed to use AI because they have to learn how to do the work themselves. Some of them are using AI anyway and some of it is totally wrong, horribly wrong and she figures AI has to be doing this on purpose but the students too stupid to know. Everywhere you turn you read stories about AI blatantly lying. If they're already out control this early in the stages of AI how in the world will we ever trust it not to take over eventually. If it lies for no reason and feels no guilt about it, it will feel no guilt about killing people and lying about it.
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A takeover by AI can only happen if the simulation was written to allow it. Have faith in the simulation!

Wait a minute… Is the simulation AI?
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June 13th, 2025 at 11:43:03 AM permalink
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June 13th, 2025 at 5:47:40 PM permalink
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A takeover by AI can only happen if the simulation was written to allow it. Have faith in the simulation!

Wait a minute… Is the simulation AI?
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This would only be true if the simulation was being written. I don't think that's the case. We're in a simulation that was created and then turned loose to do what it will on its own. Maybe it's being observed maybe it's not. There are definitely corrections involved like the braces of the girlfriend of Jaws in Moonraker. There have probably always been corrections but the world was never as plugged in as it is now were we all share so many things in real time, this is all very new. Corrections in the past would have gone unnoticed for the most part. We think about a simulation and we can only see it with our extreme limitations of what a simulation is.

Elon Musk says it best, there's a one in a billion chance that we are experiencing the base reality. It's always bothered me that when somebody dies I never worry about them, I never worry about where they are or what they're doing or if they're okay. And never in my life have I heard anybody say that about somebody who died. It's like we automatically know they're okay. Why is that.
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June 14th, 2025 at 2:49:50 AM permalink
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June 14th, 2025 at 2:58:44 AM permalink
Las Vegas ice cream truck mistaken for ICE vehicle: 'I'm an ice cream man, that's it' - News video - Jan 27, 2025
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My father was born one hundred years ago today. He was proud to have been born on Flag Day. He dropped out of school to join the Marines on his 17th birthday and was badly wounded in the Iwo Jima invasion. After the war, he had trouble finding work as all the men who had gone to war returned to their jobs. Unable to re-enlist in the Marines because he lacked a high school diploma, he was on a bus to join the Navy when a recruiter convinced him to join the Army.. He'd spend the rest of his short life either on Active Duty or in the Reserves.
I was nineteen, rebellious, and not a very good son when he passed away. I came home one night to see three police cars in front of my house. I assumed they were there for me and almost drove away. I went inside to find that my father was dead and my old world was shattered. My Mother had no income and hadn't worked since my older sister was born, was caring for my 14-year-old sister and had unofficial custody of my three-year-old niece, whose parents were abusing drugs and liquor. But I digress.
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June 14th, 2025 at 11:55:07 AM permalink
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My father was born one hundred years ago today. He was proud to have been born on Flag Day.]



Flag Day is my parents anniversary, or was as my Dad died three years ago.
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June 14th, 2025 at 1:15:57 PM permalink
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My father was born one hundred years ago today. He was proud to have been born on Flag Day. He dropped out of school to join the Marines on his 17th birthday and was badly wounded in the Iwo Jima invasion. After the war, he had trouble finding work as all the men who had gone to war returned to their jobs. Unable to re-enlist in the Marines because he lacked a high school diploma, he was on a bus to join the Navy when a recruiter convinced him to join the Army.. He'd spend the rest of his short life either on Active Duty or in the Reserves.
I was nineteen, rebellious, and not a very good son when he passed away. I came home one night to see three police cars in front of my house. I assumed they were there for me and almost drove away. I went inside to find that my father was dead and my old world was shattered. My Mother had no income and hadn't worked since my older sister was born, was caring for my 14-year-old sister and had unofficial custody of my three-year-old niece, whose parents were abusing drugs and liquor. But I digress.
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Awesome post. Consider the President to be having a parade today in honor of this courageous Marine who served at Iwo Jima.

I believe it was the last of the men in the iconic flag raising photo who passed recently, no?
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June 14th, 2025 at 6:12:21 PM permalink
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My father was born one hundred years ago today. He was proud to have been born on Flag Day. He dropped out of school to join the Marines on his 17th birthday and was badly wounded in the Iwo Jima invasion. After the war, he had trouble finding work as all the men who had gone to war returned to their jobs. Unable to re-enlist in the Marines because he lacked a high school diploma, he was on a bus to join the Navy when a recruiter convinced him to join the Army.. He'd spend the rest of his short life either on Active Duty or in the Reserves.
I was nineteen, rebellious, and not a very good son when he passed away. I came home one night to see three police cars in front of my house. I assumed they were there for me and almost drove away. I went inside to find that my father was dead and my old world was shattered. My Mother had no income and hadn't worked since my older sister was born, was caring for my 14-year-old sister and had unofficial custody of my three-year-old niece, whose parents were abusing drugs and liquor. But I digress.
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Awesome post. Consider the President to be having a parade today in honor of this courageous Marine who served at Iwo Jima.

I believe it was the last of the men in the iconic flag raising photo who passed recently, no?
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At the end of June my father was born 115 years ago. I thank God everyday he didn't live to be 115 or 100 or even 90. He would have been miserable.
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June 15th, 2025 at 5:24:06 AM permalink
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At the end of June my father was born 115 years ago. I thank God everyday he didn't live to be 115 or 100 or even 90. He would have been miserable.



My end of life goal is now to collect at least one Social Security check at the age of 62.
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June 15th, 2025 at 5:52:38 AM permalink
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At the end of June my father was born 115 years ago. I thank God everyday he didn't live to be 115 or 100 or even 90. He would have been miserable.



My end of life goal is now to collect at least one Social Security check at the age of 62.
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I have been collecting SS checks since my age 62. I am now 84 yrs old and those checks pay ALL my monthly bills and then some. Quite a ride.

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June 15th, 2025 at 7:16:25 AM permalink
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At the end of June my father was born 115 years ago. I thank God everyday he didn't live to be 115 or 100 or even 90. He would have been miserable.



My end of life goal is now to collect at least one Social Security check at the age of 62.
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I have been collecting SS checks since my age 62. I am now 84 yrs old and those checks pay ALL my monthly bills and then some. Quite a ride.

tuttigym
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The phrase I use is …. ‘I love getting money put in my account for sitting on my ass!’ I get two! SS and a pension.
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June 15th, 2025 at 7:26:36 AM permalink
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The phrase I use is …. ‘I love getting money put in my account for sitting on my ass!’ I get two! SS and a pension.



I am jealous as I don't have a pension. I will have to survive off my SS and my humble savings.
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June 15th, 2025 at 8:34:57 AM permalink
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The phrase I use is …. ‘I love getting money put in my account for sitting on my ass!’ I get two! SS and a pension.



I am jealous as I don't have a pension. I will have to survive off my SS and my humble savings.
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The trick is to live on less than the revenue your savings generate. My Social Security only covers about a third of my expenses, but dividends more than cover the rest. As they say- so far, so good.
Why work when you can train your money to work for you?
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June 15th, 2025 at 8:38:45 AM permalink
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At the end of June my father was born 115 years ago. I thank God everyday he didn't live to be 115 or 100 or even 90. He would have been miserable.



My end of life goal is now to collect at least one Social Security check at the age of 62.
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I have been collecting SS checks since my age 62. I am now 84 yrs old and those checks pay ALL my monthly bills and then some. Quite a ride.

tuttigym
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Last year you said you were 82, now you're 84? Next year will you be 90?
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June 15th, 2025 at 8:39:33 AM permalink
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The phrase I use is …. ‘I love getting money put in my account for sitting on my ass!’ I get two! SS and a pension.



I am jealous as I don't have a pension. I will have to survive off my SS and my humble savings.
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The trick is to live on less than the revenue your savings generate. My Social Security only covers about a third of my expenses, but dividends more than cover the rest. As they say- so far, so good.
Why work when you can train your money to work for you?
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That is definitely my plan. If my savings can generate about $6k a month I think I will e fine with my $2.5k SS.
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June 15th, 2025 at 9:07:07 AM permalink
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At the end of June my father was born 115 years ago. I thank God everyday he didn't live to be 115 or 100 or even 90. He would have been miserable.



My end of life goal is now to collect at least one Social Security check at the age of 62.
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I have been collecting SS checks since my age 62. I am now 84 yrs old and those checks pay ALL my monthly bills and then some. Quite a ride.

tuttigym
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Last year you said you were 82, now you're 84? Next year will you be 90?
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This post says to me that at your age 79, is it, that your reading comprehension is slipping badly along with your place in time and space.

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June 15th, 2025 at 9:47:41 AM permalink
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The phrase I use is …. ‘I love getting money put in my account for sitting on my ass!’ I get two! SS and a pension.



I am jealous as I don't have a pension. I will have to survive off my SS and my humble savings.
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The trick is to live on less than the revenue your savings generate. My Social Security only covers about a third of my expenses, but dividends more than cover the rest. As they say- so far, so good.
Why work when you can train your money to work for you?
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That is definitely my plan. If my savings can generate about $6k a month I think I will e fine with my $2.5k SS.
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Mold your lifestyle to your income, not the other way around. Do you have a plan that generates 6K a month or is that more of a goal?
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June 15th, 2025 at 11:41:56 AM permalink
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At the end of June my father was born 115 years ago. I thank God everyday he didn't live to be 115 or 100 or even 90. He would have been miserable.



My end of life goal is now to collect at least one Social Security check at the age of 62.
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I have been collecting SS checks since my age 62. I am now 84 yrs old and those checks pay ALL my monthly bills and then some. Quite a ride.

tuttigym
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Last year you said you were 82, now you're 84? Next year will you be 90?
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This post says to me that at your age 79, is it, that your reading comprehension is slipping badly along with your place in time and space.

tuttigym
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If I cared and had time I would go and find the post. Last year you said you were 82, I mentioned it several times after that and you never corrected me. Wasn't two years ago it wasn't 3 years ago it was less than a year ago. So now you're 84? If you're going to post your age you should at least try to remember what you said last time.
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June 15th, 2025 at 3:05:33 PM permalink
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Quote: tuttigym

Quote: EvenBob

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Quote: EvenBob



At the end of June my father was born 115 years ago. I thank God everyday he didn't live to be 115 or 100 or even 90. He would have been miserable.



My end of life goal is now to collect at least one Social Security check at the age of 62.
link to original post


I have been collecting SS checks since my age 62. I am now 84 yrs old and those checks pay ALL my monthly bills and then some. Quite a ride.

tuttigym
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Last year you said you were 82, now you're 84? Next year will you be 90?
link to original post


This post says to me that at your age 79, is it, that your reading comprehension is slipping badly along with your place in time and space.

tuttigym
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If I cared and had time I would go and find the post. Last year you said you were 82, I mentioned it several times after that and you never corrected me. Wasn't two years ago it wasn't 3 years ago it was less than a year ago. So now you're 84? If you're going to post your age you should at least try to remember what you said last time.
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Give him a break. How can you expect a man of that age to remember everything?
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June 15th, 2025 at 4:03:31 PM permalink
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At the end of June my father was born 115 years ago. I thank God everyday he didn't live to be 115 or 100 or even 90. He would have been miserable.



My end of life goal is now to collect at least one Social Security check at the age of 62.
link to original post


I have been collecting SS checks since my age 62. I am now 84 yrs old and those checks pay ALL my monthly bills and then some. Quite a ride.

tuttigym
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Last year you said you were 82, now you're 84? Next year will you be 90?
link to original post


This post says to me that at your age 79, is it, that your reading comprehension is slipping badly along with your place in time and space.

tuttigym
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If I cared and had time I would go and find the post. Last year you said you were 82, I mentioned it several times after that and you never corrected me. Wasn't two years ago it wasn't 3 years ago it was less than a year ago. So now you're 84? If you're going to post your age you should at least try to remember what you said last time.
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Give him a break. How can you expect a man of that age to remember everything?
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LOL! Very true..
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June 15th, 2025 at 4:04:56 PM permalink
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Give him a break. How can you expect a man of that age to remember everything?
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Indeed. I'm not quite that old (yet!), and I figure I'm doing well if I remember to get up in the morning.
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June 15th, 2025 at 4:40:46 PM permalink
Two Caltrain employees are headed to jail after they schemed to build a private apartment in a Caltrain office building. After being told they wouldn't need to provide detailed receipts on any building improvements they authorized under $3,000, the men hired a series of contractors to each do $2800 worth of work and attempted to compartmentalize each contractor so none realized what the overall project was.
In addition to jail time, the men were stripped of their jobs and pensions and ordered to repay $42,000.
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June 15th, 2025 at 6:13:14 PM permalink
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The phrase I use is …. ‘I love getting money put in my account for sitting on my ass!’ I get two! SS and a pension.



I am jealous as I don't have a pension. I will have to survive off my SS and my humble savings.
link to original post



The trick is to live on less than the revenue your savings generate. My Social Security only covers about a third of my expenses, but dividends more than cover the rest. As they say- so far, so good.
Why work when you can train your money to work for you?
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That is definitely my plan. If my savings can generate about $6k a month I think I will e fine with my $2.5k SS.
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Mold your lifestyle to your income, not the other way around. Do you have a plan that generates 6K a month or is that more of a goal?
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At this point it is just my current goal, I have three years to hopefully structure my investments to generate $6k a month. I was just able to renegotiate my work contract so I will only travel every six weeks or so. I should be able to start increasing my savings drastically.
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Indeed. I'm not quite that old (yet!), and I figure I'm doing well if I remember to get up in the morning.
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June 16th, 2025 at 4:36:49 AM permalink
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Two Caltrain employees are headed to jail after they schemed to build a private apartment in a Caltrain office building. After being told they wouldn't need to provide detailed receipts on any building improvements they authorized under $3,000, the men hired a series of contractors to each do $2800 worth of work and attempted to compartmentalize each contractor so none realized what the overall project was.
In addition to jail time, the men were stripped of their jobs and pensions and ordered to repay $42,000.
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Makes you wonder how many secret dwellings there may be.

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In 2003, eight Rhode Islanders built and secretly lived in an apartment within the Providence Place Mall, documenting their experiences with hidden cameras. This story is the subject of a documentary called "Secret Mall Apartment".



I believe there was a homeless guy living in one of the casino attractions for a while. Probably not the first time.
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June 16th, 2025 at 5:50:10 AM permalink
In the late 1980s, a group of Port Authority Police Officers was busted for having a secret love den in the bowels of Grand Central Station. What started as a crash pad where cops could catch a few z's eventually morphed into a party room, with strobes and disco balls. They kept it a secret for years until a different scandal brought it to light.
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June 16th, 2025 at 10:28:22 AM permalink
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If I cared and had time I would go and find the post. Last year you said you were 82, I mentioned it several times after that and you never corrected me. Wasn't two years ago it wasn't 3 years ago it was less than a year ago. So now you're 84? If you're going to post your age you should at least try to remember what you said last time.
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So, let me give you, EB, and AutomaticMonkey a lesson in time, space, calendars, and birthdays.

Prior to June 2024, I was 82 yrs old; after June 2024 I became 83 yrs. old; fast forward to June 2025, I became 84 yrs old.

You see I don't "need a break," but apparently at your advanced ages you all need some real help from seasoned professionals.

EB's self-proclaimed hermit lifestyle actually prevents him from growing intellectually because there are NO interpersonal relationships other than his forum posts most of which seem to be angry, negative, and without any form of sense of humor. (Except for a couple of cat pictures, I cannot ever remember reading one of his posts and laughing or chuckling or even smiling.) It seems that his greatest personal achievement is cooking. But, he cooks for only ONE because he does not have anyone to share his creations and provide any positive feedback, really kind of bummer. Lastly, can anyone imagine walking through his front door and being hit in the face with the atmosphere and the odor of cat waste emanating from 7 or 8 litter boxes?

I will stop there lest someone might think I am insulting EB because there is more.

tuttigym
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June 16th, 2025 at 11:10:53 AM permalink
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Quote: EvenBob

If I cared and had time I would go and find the post. Last year you said you were 82, I mentioned it several times after that and you never corrected me. Wasn't two years ago it wasn't 3 years ago it was less than a year ago. So now you're 84? If you're going to post your age you should at least try to remember what you said last time.
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So, let me give you, EB, and AutomaticMonkey a lesson in time, space, calendars, and birthdays.

Prior to June 2024, I was 82 yrs old; after June 2024 I became 83 yrs. old; fast forward to June 2025, I became 84 yrs old.

You see I don't "need a break," but apparently at your advanced ages you all need some real help from seasoned professionals.

EB's self-proclaimed hermit lifestyle actually prevents him from growing intellectually because there are NO interpersonal relationships other than his forum posts most of which seem to be angry, negative, and without any form of sense of humor. (Except for a couple of cat pictures, I cannot ever remember reading one of his posts and laughing or chuckling or even smiling.) It seems that his greatest personal achievement is cooking. But, he cooks for only ONE because he does not have anyone to share his creations and provide any positive feedback, really kind of bummer. Lastly, can anyone imagine walking through his front door and being hit in the face with the atmosphere and the odor of cat waste emanating from 7 or 8 litter boxes?

I will stop there lest someone might think I am insulting EB because there is more.

tuttigym
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Lol! Took you a while to dig out the calendar and 'explain' what happened. Nice try, I'm sticking with my story.
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June 16th, 2025 at 11:13:46 AM permalink
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Two Caltrain employees are headed to jail after they schemed to build a private apartment in a Caltrain office building. After being told they wouldn't need to provide detailed receipts on any building improvements they authorized under $3,000, the men hired a series of contractors to each do $2800 worth of work and attempted to compartmentalize each contractor so none realized what the overall project was.
In addition to jail time, the men were stripped of their jobs and pensions and ordered to repay $42,000.
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Makes you wonder how many secret dwellings there may be.
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They found a woman here last year that was living in a grocery store sign above the store.

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June 16th, 2025 at 11:39:19 AM permalink
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Quote: EvenBob

If I cared and had time I would go and find the post. Last year you said you were 82, I mentioned it several times after that and you never corrected me. Wasn't two years ago it wasn't 3 years ago it was less than a year ago. So now you're 84? If you're going to post your age you should at least try to remember what you said last time.
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So, let me give you, EB, and AutomaticMonkey a lesson in time, space, calendars, and birthdays.

Prior to June 2024, I was 82 yrs old; after June 2024 I became 83 yrs. old; fast forward to June 2025, I became 84 yrs old.

You see I don't "need a break," but apparently at your advanced ages you all need some real help from seasoned professionals.

EB's self-proclaimed hermit lifestyle actually prevents him from growing intellectually because there are NO interpersonal relationships other than his forum posts most of which seem to be angry, negative, and without any form of sense of humor. (Except for a couple of cat pictures, I cannot ever remember reading one of his posts and laughing or chuckling or even smiling.) It seems that his greatest personal achievement is cooking. But, he cooks for only ONE because he does not have anyone to share his creations and provide any positive feedback, really kind of bummer. Lastly, can anyone imagine walking through his front door and being hit in the face with the atmosphere and the odor of cat waste emanating from 7 or 8 litter boxes?

I will stop there lest someone might think I am insulting EB because there is more.

tuttigym
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Lol! Took you a while to dig out the calendar and 'explain' what happened. Nice try, I'm sticking with my story.
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You guys remember that we switched to the Gregorian Calendar a few years back, right?
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June 16th, 2025 at 11:44:25 AM permalink
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Prior to June 2024, I was 82 yrs old; after June 2024 I became 83 yrs. old; fast forward to June 2025, I became 84 yrs old.
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(¡heavily truncated!)

A lot of people easily forget that "a bit more than a calendar year" can span 3 years of age.
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June 16th, 2025 at 12:02:08 PM permalink
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Quote: EvenBob

If I cared and had time I would go and find the post. Last year you said you were 82, I mentioned it several times after that and you never corrected me. Wasn't two years ago it wasn't 3 years ago it was less than a year ago. So now you're 84? If you're going to post your age you should at least try to remember what you said last time.
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So, let me give you, EB, and AutomaticMonkey a lesson in time, space, calendars, and birthdays.

Prior to June 2024, I was 82 yrs old; after June 2024 I became 83 yrs. old; fast forward to June 2025, I became 84 yrs old.

You see I don't "need a break," but apparently at your advanced ages you all need some real help from seasoned professionals.

EB's self-proclaimed hermit lifestyle actually prevents him from growing intellectually because there are NO interpersonal relationships other than his forum posts most of which seem to be angry, negative, and without any form of sense of humor. (Except for a couple of cat pictures, I cannot ever remember reading one of his posts and laughing or chuckling or even smiling.) It seems that his greatest personal achievement is cooking. But, he cooks for only ONE because he does not have anyone to share his creations and provide any positive feedback, really kind of bummer. Lastly, can anyone imagine walking through his front door and being hit in the face with the atmosphere and the odor of cat waste emanating from 7 or 8 litter boxes?

I will stop there lest someone might think I am insulting EB because there is more.

tuttigym
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Lol! Took you a while to dig out the calendar and 'explain' what happened. Nice try, I'm sticking with my story.
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Of course you do. When EB is proven wrong and backed into a corner, he doubles down and proves the old expression, you can't fix ............

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June 16th, 2025 at 12:04:00 PM permalink
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Quote: EvenBob

If I cared and had time I would go and find the post. Last year you said you were 82, I mentioned it several times after that and you never corrected me. Wasn't two years ago it wasn't 3 years ago it was less than a year ago. So now you're 84? If you're going to post your age you should at least try to remember what you said last time.
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So, let me give you, EB, and AutomaticMonkey a lesson in time, space, calendars, and birthdays.

Prior to June 2024, I was 82 yrs old; after June 2024 I became 83 yrs. old; fast forward to June 2025, I became 84 yrs old.

You see I don't "need a break," but apparently at your advanced ages you all need some real help from seasoned professionals.

EB's self-proclaimed hermit lifestyle actually prevents him from growing intellectually because there are NO interpersonal relationships other than his forum posts most of which seem to be angry, negative, and without any form of sense of humor. (Except for a couple of cat pictures, I cannot ever remember reading one of his posts and laughing or chuckling or even smiling.) It seems that his greatest personal achievement is cooking. But, he cooks for only ONE because he does not have anyone to share his creations and provide any positive feedback, really kind of bummer. Lastly, can anyone imagine walking through his front door and being hit in the face with the atmosphere and the odor of cat waste emanating from 7 or 8 litter boxes?

I will stop there lest someone might think I am insulting EB because there is more.

tuttigym
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Lol! Took you a while to dig out the calendar and 'explain' what happened. Nice try, I'm sticking with my story.
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You guys remember that we switched to the Gregorian Calendar a few years back, right?
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So, do I still "need a break" or are you going to double down too?

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June 16th, 2025 at 12:31:09 PM permalink
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Quote: EvenBob

If I cared and had time I would go and find the post. Last year you said you were 82, I mentioned it several times after that and you never corrected me. Wasn't two years ago it wasn't 3 years ago it was less than a year ago. So now you're 84? If you're going to post your age you should at least try to remember what you said last time.
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So, let me give you, EB, and AutomaticMonkey a lesson in time, space, calendars, and birthdays.

Prior to June 2024, I was 82 yrs old; after June 2024 I became 83 yrs. old; fast forward to June 2025, I became 84 yrs old.

You see I don't "need a break," but apparently at your advanced ages you all need some real help from seasoned professionals.

EB's self-proclaimed hermit lifestyle actually prevents him from growing intellectually because there are NO interpersonal relationships other than his forum posts most of which seem to be angry, negative, and without any form of sense of humor. (Except for a couple of cat pictures, I cannot ever remember reading one of his posts and laughing or chuckling or even smiling.) It seems that his greatest personal achievement is cooking. But, he cooks for only ONE because he does not have anyone to share his creations and provide any positive feedback, really kind of bummer. Lastly, can anyone imagine walking through his front door and being hit in the face with the atmosphere and the odor of cat waste emanating from 7 or 8 litter boxes?

I will stop there lest someone might think I am insulting EB because there is more.

tuttigym
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Lol! Took you a while to dig out the calendar and 'explain' what happened. Nice try, I'm sticking with my story.
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You guys remember that we switched to the Gregorian Calendar a few years back, right?
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So, do I still "need a break" or are you going to double down too?

tuttigym
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Are you speaking in Serious? Sorry, I have very little understanding of Serious!

None of you guys with your birth certificates carved into a stone tablet have anything to prove to me! I can't read Sumerian anyway.
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June 16th, 2025 at 12:39:07 PM permalink
In 1805, England, Austria, and Russia formed a secret pact to attack Napoleon and his allies. The plan was for four simultaneous attacks, widely spread out so Napoleon couldn't react to all four.
The attacks are scheduled for June 1st, but in mid-May, Russia launches its invasion. Austria is only half prepared, but they launch whatever they have ready. England's invasion fleet is not ready, and Austria's weak effort is easily sent back. Napoleon can concentrate his forces on Russia and easily whips their army, sending them fleeing back in shambles.
The alliance is shattered; it will be years before anyone mounts another challenge to Emperor Napoleon.
What went wrong? Why did Russia attack in mid-May when it promised to attack on June 1st?
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June 16th, 2025 at 12:51:28 PM permalink
let me just offer my opinion is that tuttigym has a perfectly sound explanation reconciling his past and present statements of his age. IMO Evenbob has been ungentlemanly in his comments and refusal to admit that he was wrong.

Question for the forum regulars: Is anyone older than tuttigym, who has recently had his 84th birthday?
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June 16th, 2025 at 12:51:31 PM permalink
let me just offer my opinion is that tuttigym has a perfectly sound explanation reconciling his past and present statements of his age. IMO Evenbob has been ungentlemanly in his comments and refusal to admit that he was wrong.

Question for the forum regulars: Is anyone older than tuttigym, who has recently had his 84th birthday?
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June 16th, 2025 at 1:00:29 PM permalink
Jim and John own a business, one lives in NY and the other lives in California.
On January 1st, 2026, just after New Year's, Jim chooses to take his own life by stabbing himself in the back a dozen times before slitting his throat.
An hour later, his partner John, despondent over Jim's death, runs himself over with his Corvette twice, before setting the car afire and crawling into the trunk.
Even though he died an hour later, his death certificate says December 31st, 2025.
Would this be an issue for insurance or inheritances?
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June 16th, 2025 at 1:19:23 PM permalink
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Even though he died an hour later, his death certificate says December 31st, 2025.
Would this be an issue for insurance or inheritances?
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Good question. Jim takes his life first but it is the day after the date of John's death on the death certificate.
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June 16th, 2025 at 1:44:24 PM permalink
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Even though he died an hour later, his death certificate says December 31st, 2025.
Would this be an issue for insurance or inheritances?
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Good question. Jim takes his life first but it is the day after the date of John's death on the death certificate.
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To the question of insurance, I think all times on an insurance policy are relative to where the policy was issued. If that's the case time zones would be accounted for.

What a probate judge would do with it I'm not sure, but there surely is some case law about what happens when an heir also dies before an estate is settled.

There are also going to be cases where a time of death is unclear to anyone. Guy goes camping for a week, his term life policy expires on Wednesday, he is recovered (not rescued) by a conservation officer on Friday with no way to be sure to within a day how long he has been deceased. Being his phone was off, he never heard that one of his heirs passed away that week too. Who knows?
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June 16th, 2025 at 2:18:24 PM permalink
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Jim and John own a business, one lives in NY and the other lives in California.
On January 1st, 2026, just after New Year's, Jim chooses to take his own life by stabbing himself in the back a dozen times before slitting his throat.
An hour later, his partner John, despondent over Jim's death, runs himself over with his Corvette twice, before setting the car afire and crawling into the trunk.
Even though he died an hour later, his death certificate says December 31st, 2025.
Would this be an issue for insurance or inheritances?
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Plenty in that fact pattern that would be a problem!!
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June 16th, 2025 at 3:09:23 PM permalink
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Did Fox just reveal a secret Army base on the moon? I'm watching a clip where a Trump Dept of Defense official is talking about all the successes the military has had, and how they are involved in all these great missions, and he says he just today talked to a soldier who is also an astronaut who is currently on the moon.
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Do the soldiers on the Moon base man the Jewish Space Lasers?
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June 16th, 2025 at 6:59:02 PM permalink
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let me just offer my opinion is that tuttigym has a perfectly sound explanation reconciling his past and present statements of his age. IMO Evenbob has been ungentlemanly in his comments and refusal to admit that he was wrong.

Question for the forum regulars: Is anyone older than tuttigym, who has recently had his 84th birthday?
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But then again you don't know the whole story, there's way more to this than what's going on and I'm not going to get into it here. It has nothing to do with him being 82 or 84 or 106. And he knows it. Now he'll post that, what, I don't know anything, what are you talking about, I'm totally innocent. To which my response is, whatever.
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June 17th, 2025 at 3:29:32 AM permalink
Found this in my Facebook feed!






GM used to work on all kinds of neat stuff like this. It says how profitable they had to have been to have a lab with this kind of thinking. Yes, we ended up using satellites and our screens would be far better, still....WOW!

Yet shortly after this they would let their entire business fall apart piece by piece. How could they think on this level but yet not check that the inner fenders on the Vega were coated when dipped in primer possibly leaving air pockets?
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June 17th, 2025 at 7:02:57 AM permalink
Isn't GM a leader in EV technology? The typical GM car has more computer power than the Pentagon had in the 1960s and is incredibly safer than GM's 1970s models.
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