Miscellaneous Discussion Thread II
Quote: billryanWhy we hike.
Two hikers in the Czech Republic came across an old iron box off the path in a forest. Lying on top were a bunch of old snuffboxes that appeared to be made of gold. Next were a bunch of necklaces and bracelets that also seemed to be made of gold, but what they found next was astonishing - 498 gold coins, dating from 1808 to 1915.
Most of the coins are from the Hungarian/Austrian Empire but there were French, Italian and Russian coins as well.
Who put it there is a mystery, as is how it evidently sat undiscovered along the path for years.
The gold value is around $300,000 but the collectability of some items may push the final price much higher.
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Did they say if the finders will get to be the keepers?
Quote: DRichQuote: billryanWhy we hike.
Two hikers in the Czech Republic came across an old iron box off the path in a forest. Lying on top were a bunch of old snuffboxes that appeared to be made of gold. Next were a bunch of necklaces and bracelets that also seemed to be made of gold, but what they found next was astonishing - 498 gold coins, dating from 1808 to 1915.
Most of the coins are from the Hungarian/Austrian Empire but there were French, Italian and Russian coins as well.
Who put it there is a mystery, as is how it evidently sat undiscovered along the path for years.
The gold value is around $300,000 but the collectability of some items may push the final price much higher.
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Did they say if the finders will get to be the keepers?
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They were required, by law, to turn them over to authorities. As I understand it, experts will determine if they have significant historic value. If they don't, they are returned to the finders. If they hold significant historic value, the finders get a finders fee of 10%.
The 20th-century coins shouldn't have historic value.
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I plan on doing some panning and sluicing this summer.
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Cool!
As long as you're aware there is no such thing as a stream in the world that has not been panned already for gold. At least that occurred to me when I took a little tour of the area of the Virginia gold rush of the 19th century. The only explanation for finding gold there had to be that, where there is a stream that produces gravel beds, somebody has checked it out.................. centuries ago!
The place is hardly hilly even ... but dreamers showed up and found some gold. Some dubiously profitable mining took place.
That they've being panned already doesn't mean you can't find a bit of gold, go for it
Quote: odiousgambitQuote: AxelWolf
I plan on doing some panning and sluicing this summer.
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Cool!
As long as you're aware there is no such thing as a stream in the world that has not been panned already for gold. At least that occurred to me when I took a little tour of the area of the Virginia gold rush of the 19th century. The only explanation for finding gold there had to be that, where there is a stream that produces gravel beds, somebody has checked it out.................. centuries ago!
The place is hardly hilly even ... but dreamers showed up and found some gold. Some dubiously profitable mining took place.
That they've being panned already doesn't mean you can't find a bit of gold, go for it
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Try it after a storm! Metal detectorists take advantage of this on beaches for the same reason- no matter where you go, someone has already been there with a metal detector. But a good hurricane will churn so much sand, that a piece that was way, way out of detector range before may now close enough to the surface to be detectable. So there will be guys driving through the storm and waiting for the moment they can safely get on the beach to be the first ones there.
I have many acers of rivers/stream running though my properties.Quote: odiousgambitQuote: AxelWolf
I plan on doing some panning and sluicing this summer.
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Cool!
As long as you're aware there is no such thing as a stream in the world that has not been panned already for gold. At least that occurred to me when I took a little tour of the area of the Virginia gold rush of the 19th century. The only explanation for finding gold there had to be that, where there is a stream that produces gravel beds, somebody has checked it out.................. centuries ago!
The place is hardly hilly even ... but dreamers showed up and found some gold. Some dubiously profitable mining took place.
That they've being panned already doesn't mean you can't find a bit of gold, go for it
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Both in Washington and California. A new channel cut though to an island on my property in recent years with uprooted trees on the banks, so I'm hopeful I might find something there. There's about 7 different streams/creeks/rivers within a 12 mile or so radius I can explore as well.
But I'm just doing it for fun while fishing and relaxing, so I won't be disappointed if I find nothing. I would be super psyched if I found anything of value.
Last year while on a creek near Leavingsworth, WA I found a small amount of gold flaky stuff(without using a pan).I think it's just fools gold.but, I still.need to test it. It was fun regardless.
I have a small set of pans now, but I need to order a sluse box.
P.S. supposedly (according to the locals) I have a bunch of big wood beruls on my land that are worth a fair amount, but I'm skeptical as I'm wondering why the previous owners didn't have them harvested.
It bothered me, so over the weekend, I went through several hundred Hall of Fame cards, then my 1960s cards, and finally my box of yet-to-be-properly sorted cards. Not only did I not find that card, but I noticed quite a few other cards seemed missing. Eventually, enough were missing that I decided an entire box must be missing. I looked in my closets, under my bed, in my storage shed, everywhere.
I'm sitting in my living room, racking my brain when I spy my leather ottoman that is a de facto room divider. I'd forgotten all about the storage inside. Inside it are two monster boxes, each with almost 800 Hall of Fame cards, and four smaller boxes, each with about 200 HOF cards. Altogether, there must have been $20,000 at retail, including a George Brett Rookie I was almost certain I'd sold.
Quote: billryanA shop in Tombstone had a chunk of fool's gold on display for years. The shop got sold, and the new owner sold the chunk. Long story short, it wasn't fool's gold, and the rock he sold for $200 had $1800 worth of gold in it.
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The story makes it sound like it was fool’s gold. (Previous owner basically gave it away.)
I sold 80% of my baseball and sports collection, but I still have a few boxes the guy didn't want to buy. There are 3 George Brett Rookies, but unless you have that stuff graded, it's not worth much. Even the ones that look super good normally EX - MT6 and 5.Quote: billryanI had someone interested in a couple of 1960s baseball cards last week, but I couldn't find one particular card—a 1968 Brooks Robinson.
It bothered me, so over the weekend, I went through several hundred Hall of Fame cards, then my 1960s cards, and finally my box of yet-to-be-properly sorted cards. Not only did I not find that card, but I noticed quite a few other cards seemed missing. Eventually, enough were missing that I decided an entire box must be missing. I looked in my closets, under my bed, in my storage shed, everywhere.
I'm sitting in my living room, racking my brain when I spy my leather ottoman that is a de facto room divider. I'd forgotten all about the storage inside. Inside it are two monster boxes, each with almost 800 Hall of Fame cards, and four smaller boxes, each with about 200 HOF cards. Altogether, there must have been $20,000 at retail, including a George Brett Rookie I was almost certain I'd sold.
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Pyrite chunks can contain small amounts of gold. I would assume that's what happened in this situation.Quote: rxwineQuote: billryanA shop in Tombstone had a chunk of fool's gold on display for years. The shop got sold, and the new owner sold the chunk. Long story short, it wasn't fool's gold, and the rock he sold for $200 had $1800 worth of gold in it.
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The story makes it sound like it was fool’s gold. (Previous owner basically gave it away.)
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Why didn't the guy want the Brett cards? It's one of my better sellers.
It wasn't just the Brett cards he avoided, he just didn't want any more mid 70's and 80's cards.Quote: billryanThis card is a mini card. In 1975, approx. 5% of Topps were printed on cards about 1/3 smaller than the regular ones. The US was experiencing a paper shortage, so they made the cards smaller so they could produce more per sheet. The 1975 set was originally dismissed for its garish colors, but it has become a collector's favorite over time. A Brett Min is worth about $500. There was also a Mike Schmidt rookie.
Why didn't the guy want the Brett cards? It's one of my better sellers.
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I'm fairly certain I have some Brett minis all in good condition. I'll sell them to you for $150, just tell me where to send them.
I still have a Bally's Las Vegas 25th Anniversary Baseball poster with all in person signing by Reggie Jackson, Whitey Ford, Frank Robinson, Pete Rose, Willie Mays & Johnny Bench. You had to be invited to the dinner party for a meet and greet it was limited to about 250. I have proof I was there with an invite card and pictures of me meeting some of the players. What do you think that's worth? At the time, it said valued over 1k card dealers camped out outside and were buying them for over 1500. It's over 25 years later. I saw them online for $2500 many years ago.
Quote: AxelWolfIt wasn't just the Brett cards he avoided, he just didn't want any more mid 70's and 80's cards.Quote: billryanThis card is a mini card. In 1975, approx. 5% of Topps were printed on cards about 1/3 smaller than the regular ones. The US was experiencing a paper shortage, so they made the cards smaller so they could produce more per sheet. The 1975 set was originally dismissed for its garish colors, but it has become a collector's favorite over time. A Brett Min is worth about $500. There was also a Mike Schmidt rookie.
Why didn't the guy want the Brett cards? It's one of my better sellers.
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I'm fairly certain I have some Brett minis all in good condition. I'll sell them to you for $150, just tell me where to send them.
I still have a Bally's Las Vegas 25th Anniversary Baseball poster with all in person signing by Reggie Jackson, Whitey Ford, Frank Robinson, Pete Rose, Willie Mays & Johnny Bench. You had to be invited to the dinner party for a meet and greet it was limited to about 250. I have proof I was there with an invite card and pictures of me meeting some of the players. What do you think that's worth? At the time, it said valued over 1k card dealers camped out outside and were buying them for over 1500. It's over 25 years later. I saw them online for $2500 many years ago.
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I'd go $150 for sharp copies. I'm slowly putting together a 75 set, now that I finished my 69 and 70 sets
You showed me that piece and I'm not sure how to value it. It's one of 250, but those guys did hundred of events and each of them has a limited 250 signing. Get a couple of bitcoin bro/poker pros drunk and auction it off.
Yesterday, he and two relievers combined to pitch a one-hit shutout.
Max has started four games this year following a Yankee loss. He has given up zero earned runs in those starts.
Trivia question - which Hall of Fame player has broken up the most no-hitters?
the U.S. has never had a woman President
but Catherine the Great ruled Russia as Empress from 1762 to 1796
she came to power after overthrowing her husband Peter III
under her long reign Russia experienced a renaissance of culture and sciences
she followed a precedent set by Catherine I who ruled after her husband Peter the Great. Also, Empress Elizabeth, Peter the Great's daughter also ruled before Catherine the Great
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_the_Great
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the U.S. has never had a woman President
but Catherine the Great ruled Russia as Empress from 1762 to 1796
she came to power after overthrowing her husband Peter III
under her long reign Russia experienced a renaissance of culture and sciences
she followed a precedent set by Catherine I who ruled after her husband Peter the Great. Also, Empress Elizabeth, Peter the Great's daughter also ruled before Catherine the Great
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_the_Great
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To be polite, Catherine got around.......
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: lilredrooster.
the U.S. has never had a woman President
but Catherine the Great ruled Russia as Empress from 1762 to 1796
she came to power after overthrowing her husband Peter III
under her long reign Russia experienced a renaissance of culture and sciences
she followed a precedent set by Catherine I who ruled after her husband Peter the Great. Also, Empress Elizabeth, Peter the Great's daughter also ruled before Catherine the Great
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_the_Great
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To be polite, Catherine got around.......
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And which male leaders didn’t?
Quote: billryanIn his last start, Yankee starter Max Fried thought he had a no-hitter going into the seventh inning, but the official scorer changed an earlier error into a hit. It was a dubious decision but Max gave up two hits in the eighth so it didn't really matter.
Yesterday, he and two relievers combined to pitch a one-hit shutout.
Max has started four games this year following a Yankee loss. He has given up zero earned runs in those starts.
Trivia question - which Hall of Fame player has broken up the most no-hitters?
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Quote: avianrandyQuote: billryanIn his last start, Yankee starter Max Fried thought he had a no-hitter going into the seventh inning, but the official scorer changed an earlier error into a hit. It was a dubious decision but Max gave up two hits in the eighth so it didn't really matter.
Yesterday, he and two relievers combined to pitch a one-hit shutout.
Max has started four games this year following a Yankee loss. He has given up zero earned runs in those starts.
Trivia question - which Hall of Fame player has broken up the most no-hitters?
link to original postaccording to Google it is Joe mauer whoever he is. Nolan Ryan's name also came up so not sure what answer you are looking for
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Google keeps referring to Nolan Ryan, meaning he lost the most no-hitters late in games.
This discussion arose after someone mentioned Ricky Henderson broke up 81 no-hitters with a home run. That is because he hit 81 lead-off home runs. As one of the best leadoff batters of all time, and given his incredible longevity, he had 680 lead-off hits, so he broke up 680 no-hitters, but that isn't what most people would think of.
I'd like to find a list of people who broke up multiple no-hitters after the seventh inning, but my google skills are weak.
Quote: avianrandyQuote: billryanIn his last start, Yankee starter Max Fried thought he had a no-hitter going into the seventh inning, but the official scorer changed an earlier error into a hit. It was a dubious decision but Max gave up two hits in the eighth so it didn't really matter.
Yesterday, he and two relievers combined to pitch a one-hit shutout.
Max has started four games this year following a Yankee loss. He has given up zero earned runs in those starts.
Trivia question - which Hall of Fame player has broken up the most no-hitters?
link to original postaccording to Google it is Joe mauer whoever he is. Nolan Ryan's name also came up so not sure what answer you are looking for
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Wow, if you don;t know who he is you must not have watched any baseball the last 20 years or so.
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the U.S. has never had a woman President
but Catherine the Great ruled Russia as Empress from 1762 to 1796
she came to power after overthrowing her husband Peter III
under her long reign Russia experienced a renaissance of culture and sciences
she followed a precedent set by Catherine I who ruled after her husband Peter the Great. Also, Empress Elizabeth, Peter the Great's daughter also ruled before Catherine the Great
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_the_Great
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To be polite, Catherine got around.......
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And which male leaders didn’t?
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Surely plenty didn't. In any case, not the same thing for a male.
Quote: AZDuffman
Surely plenty didn't. In any case, not the same thing for a male.
Why wouldn't it be the same thing for a man?
Quote: DRichQuote: AZDuffman
Surely plenty didn't. In any case, not the same thing for a male.
Why wouldn't it be the same thing for a man?
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Because women are the ultimate deciders on if it will happen.
Thus a man getting around is making conquests.
A woman getting around is getting around.
Men and women are not the same.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: DRichQuote: AZDuffman
Surely plenty didn't. In any case, not the same thing for a male.
Why wouldn't it be the same thing for a man?
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Because women are the ultimate deciders on if it will happen....
You sure about that? [with sinister, wide-eyed grin...]
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Surely plenty didn't. In any case, not the same thing for a male.
Why wouldn't it be the same thing for a man?
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Males don't usually get pregnant.
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Surely plenty didn't. In any case, not the same thing for a male.
Why wouldn't it be the same thing for a man?
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A king can have a bastard child with little blowback. A queen having a stable boy's kid would be problematic.
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Surely plenty didn't. In any case, not the same thing for a male.
Why wouldn't it be the same thing for a man?
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Males don't usually get pregnant.
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I've yet to hear of a horse impregnating a human.
update. I just did a quick Google search. Guys name is Kavan Markwood 20 years old. He took his shirt off and doused his chest with beer because the pirates were rallying. He is awake alert and able to speak according to his family. He has a skull fracture and a GoFundMe has been started for him and they are 83% of the $45,000 goal.Quote: avianrandyAnyone have any updates on the fan that fell 21 feet at the pirates-cubs game Wednesday I think? It was at Pittsburgh and they won 4-3. Age of fan and was alcohol involved? A coworker said Friday night he seen he was still in hospital in critical condition. Fan is lucky he isn't in a coffin
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Quote: AZDuffman
Because women are the ultimate deciders on if it will happen.
Thus a man getting around is making conquests.
A woman getting around is getting around.
Men and women are not the same.
I don't look at a promiscuous woman any differently than I do a promiscuous man. Personally, I have no problem with either unless they are married and in that case they are both pieces of crap in my opinion.
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I don't look at a promiscuous woman any differently than I do a promiscuous man. \
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The rest of the world certainly does. A promiscuous man is a rogue or a player. A promiscuous woman is always a slut, always.
Slut, a woman who is sexually promiscuous and is considered to have loose sexual morals.
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I've yet to hear of a horse impregnating a human.
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Oh it's happened. I know a girl who is half horse and half human.
What, don't believe me? Do you want to see her? I'll centaur over.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryan
I've yet to hear of a horse impregnating a human.
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Oh it's happened. I know a girl who is half horse and half human.
What, don't believe me? Do you want to see her? I'll centaur over.
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Somehow, that's begging for pun ishment.
Quote: DieterQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryan
I've yet to hear of a horse impregnating a human.
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Oh it's happened. I know a girl who is half horse and half human.
What, don't believe me? Do you want to see her? I'll centaur over.
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Somehow, that's begging for pun ishment.
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Here's your word of the day. Droll. When is the last time you used that word in a sentence, I don't think I ever have.
droll
/drōl/
adjective
curious or unusual in a way that provokes dry amusement.
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I've yet to hear of a horse impregnating a human.
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Oh it's happened. I know a girl who is half horse and half human.
What, don't believe me? Do you want to see her? I'll centaur over.
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Somehow, that's begging for pun ishment.
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Here's your word of the day. Droll. When is the last time you used that word in a sentence, I don't think I ever have.
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"Droll"? It's probably been 14 or 15 years, maybe 20.
I don't get much call for "spry", either.
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Because women are the ultimate deciders on if it will happen.
Thus a man getting around is making conquests.
A woman getting around is getting around.
Men and women are not the same.
I don't look at a promiscuous woman any differently than I do a promiscuous man. Personally, I have no problem with either unless they are married and in that case they are both pieces of crap in my opinion.
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You also do not seem to think there is any difference between men and women. But there is.
Ask yourself why most women do not like promiscuous women.
If that society has different standards of behavior for women and men well that is simple reality.
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I don't look at a promiscuous woman any differently than I do a promiscuous man. Personally, I have no problem with either unless they are married and in that case they are both pieces of crap in my opinion.
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You also do not seem to think there is any difference between men and women. But there is.
Ask yourself why most women do not like promiscuous women.
If that society has different standards of behavior for women and men well that is simple reality.
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It really depends on where you are and who you're with, more than if you are male and female.
In professional environments it can be taken as a sign of unreliability, immaturity, excessive and unnecessary risk-taking and possibly an addiction disorder, in men. It can exclude you from positions of trust and responsibility. In terms of reputational damage, I'd rate being known as a screwaround about the same as coming in to work drunk.
And that's if you're single. If you're married and screw around it opens up other pathways to disaster
this one has my vote for the funniest movie scene of all time
Dr. Strangelove explaining to the Potus (both played by Peter Sellers) how the U.S. can survive a nuclear war
humans in the U.S. will survive in an underground bunker with people selected to live by a computer - on one can leave the bunker for 100 years
10 females for every male - - females are selected for "sexual characteristics that are stimulating"__________________:)
Strangelove misspeaks at 1:07 and calls the Potus "mein fuhrer" - his right arm keeps wanting to go up in a Nazi salute and he has to pull it back
Sellers is a comic genius imo
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I don't look at a promiscuous woman any differently than I do a promiscuous man. Personally, I have no problem with either unless they are married and in that case they are both pieces of crap in my opinion.
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You also do not seem to think there is any difference between men and women. But there is.
Ask yourself why most women do not like promiscuous women.
If that society has different standards of behavior for women and men well that is simple reality.
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It really depends on where you are and who you're with, more than if you are male and female.
In professional environments it can be taken as a sign of unreliability, immaturity, excessive and unnecessary risk-taking and possibly an addiction disorder, in men. It can exclude you from positions of trust and responsibility. In terms of reputational damage, I'd rate being known as a screwaround about the same as coming in to work drunk.
And that's if you're single. If you're married and screw around it opens up other pathways to disaster
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Still no matter what it will still look worse for you if you are female. There are lots of women out there who look past a guy cheating as something guys do. I had women in my office say that about Bill Clinton. See, this kind of woman prefers sharing an Alpha guy to having a faithful Omega.
Flip that now. If Hillary had a reputation for getting around would it be excused the same way? Men don’t see that as “sharing a good woman.” They see it as something I will not repeat here.
things change
not all that long ago women were expected to be virgins when they got married
now, that expectation is not there
I don't believe it's acceptable for either a man or woman to have other partners while they're married
at least not acceptable by the other partner
of course, there may be exceptions - surely there are a few couples with very different ideas
if a man and woman get involved for the first time and they're adults I don't believe the man has expectations that the female didn't have prior sexual experience
not most men anyway
"slut" is not a word you hear very often anymore - it's from the past
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You also do not seem to think there is any difference between men and women. But there is.
That is completely untrue, you must have me confused with someone else. . I use the XX and XY to differentiate.
Quote:The idea of women having freedom to choose their sexual and reproductive health, including the decision to have or not have children, is a recent development, particularly in the context of broader feminist and human rights movements. While notions of sexual autonomy have existed historically, the active pursuit and legal recognition of these rights have gained significant traction in the 20th and 21st centuries.
I suppose in the position of queen, the odds were a little better because of power. I don't know if Cleopatra was in control of her sexual activiity. Or Mayan rulers let women be in more control.
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You also do not seem to think there is any difference between men and women. But there is.
That is completely untrue, you must have me confused with someone else. . I use the XX and XY to differentiate.
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I am basing it on the positions you taa ad Kevin your posts. This thread being just one example.
400,000 prisoners means a lot of guards, and the US Army didn't want to spare any decent soldiers, so guards were usually the bottom of the barrel. Men judged to have mental or moral problems that kept them from combat, and those unable to properly adjust to military life.
Joe Bertucci was such a man. Although he had volunteered for the military before the war broke out, he had never quite fit in. Sent overseas to England, he was ruled unfit for combat duty, and after bouncing around at various assignments, he was posted to Utah as an overnight guard at a camp housing POWs assigned to fieldwork.
On a warm July night, in 1945, two months after the US and its Allies defeated Nazi Germany, Pvt. Bertucci was manning his watch tower with a deadly mounted M1917 machine gun. At midnight, he opened fire on the tents where the POWs were sleeping. For over a minute, he fired nearly a thousand rounds into the tents, killing and wounding dozens.
It was the worst killing of prisoners in Army history, but the government covered it up. Bertucci was sent to a mental hospital, where he died in the late 1960s, and it took years for the US to admit how the prisoners were killed.
For many years, a plaque on the site recognized the work of the many Corps of Conservation workers from the camp but ignored the fact that it was a POW camp where prisoners were slaughtered in their sleep.
Bases are loaded with one out. The Vandy batter lofts a flyball into left-center, deep enough for a potential sac fly.
The leftfielder calls the ball and seems to camp under it. He makes the motion as if catching the ball and seems to throw it towards the plate. The runner on third is on the base and takes off as soon as he thinks the ball is caught.
Only the left fielder didn't catch the ball. He pulled a fake and the center fielder caught the ball- after all three runners had started to advance. They all scrambled back to their bases, and the run didn't score.
Quote: billryanIt's mostly forgotten today, but during WW2, the US imported over 400,000 German and Italian POWS, many of whom were put to work on farms. With most American males in the military, the POWS filled a vital role in American agriculture.
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My grandfather worked in a factory with German prisoners in Maryland. He said they were all really smart really nice guys who were very very glad to be here and not fighting in Europe. They had it made here, they had comfortable living quarters and they got paid for working. Many of the smarter ones who spoke good English never went back to Germany they got citizenship here eventually. They were not criminals, many of them were highly educated. All they did was get drafted into the German army which they didn't want any part of and they made the mistake of getting caught. My grandfather said they were loosely guarded and none of them ever tried to escape because they had it so good. He said they were hard workers and never caused any problems.
Russia has a program of pardoning criminals including murderers and rapists if they serve in the Ukraine war
after serving they come back to Russia to commit more crimes including murder and rape
https://archive.ph/kOh5f
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