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AxelWolf
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January 11th, 2021 at 1:26:57 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

You are clearly missing the point.

Here is an example not with oil but with brakes. I managed a fleet of vehicles and were were using a local tire shop that did service. I forget the exact words but he gave me some BS on what the brakes needed. I then replied in a way that showed I knew how to do my own brakes and in a tone that said if he wants to pull that with a clueless 20 year old stripper go ahead but you do not pull it with me. his whole attitude changed right away. But I still took my business across the street.

If you never learn this stuff you will get taken advantage of. You learn it by doing. At the least a well rounded man needs to have done his own brakes and oil change. Also because when you learn to do this kind of thing you learn how to figure out other mechanical things.

Renaissance man.

I do get what you are saying, I just think it would be dumb and arrogant assume someone isn't a manly man based on your own perception and qualifications. This is 2021 not the olden days I try to keep up with the times as much as possible, I don't want to be one of them old coots who curse all change and modern times. Women never used to find men cooking in the kitchen sexy, but, nowadays, it seems to be dropping panties(perhaps boxers) left and right.

Changing oil and doing breaks are not things usually used to describe a Renaissance man, that stuff is almost the opposite of things associated with being a renaissance man.


We might say well rounded, someone else might say jack of all trades, master of none. That's fine with me because I pride myself on being what I believe is well rounded, I usually try to do things myself(sometimes foolishly so), I have lots of different hobbies/interests and I can hang out with just about anyone of any intelligence level, race, class, age or backround.

In your example You are basically saying you have to con or take advantage of people to learn how not to get conned to taken advantage of. They say some of the easiest people to con are the conns themselves.

Question for you: Do you consider Gay guys manly men? I have known some gay guys that are well rounded talented Renaissance men, probably much more so than you and I.
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January 11th, 2021 at 2:16:40 PM permalink
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Question for you: Do you consider Gay guys manly men? I have known some gay guys that are well rounded talented Renaissance men, probably much more so than you and I.



You don't have to always defend your boyfriend PG.
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AZDuffman
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January 11th, 2021 at 2:17:54 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I do get what you are saying, I just think it would be dumb and arrogant assume someone isn't a manly man based on your own perception and qualifications. This is 2021 not the olden days I try to keep up with the times as much as possible, I don't want to be one of them old coots who curse all change and modern times. Women never used to find men cooking in the kitchen sexy, but, nowadays, it seems to be dropping panties(perhaps boxers) left and right.

Changing oil and doing breaks are not things usually used to describe a Renaissance man, that stuff is almost the opposite of things associated with being a renaissance man.



B-R-A-K-E-S

I so not see at all where it is the "opposite" of renaissance man. It is the definition of it. Renaissance man is a man with a wide variety of skills. A man with both white collar and blue collar skills. Does not need to be a total master of them all, that is impossible. But a man who you can put in situations and is not totally lost. So when it comes to cars he need not know how to rebuild an engine, but needs to know how one works. And needs to know how to get out of a jam, e.g. he can jump start a car without problem. So knowing how to and having done an oil change is part of this.

Of course women like men who can cook. Men are the best cooks. If we go to Mars men will be the best cooks.




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Question for you: Do you consider Gay guys manly men? I have known some gay guys that are well rounded talented Renaissance men, probably much more so than you and I.



No.
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AxelWolf
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January 11th, 2021 at 5:01:55 PM permalink
If you look for examples of renaissance men in history and modern day I think it would be very rare to find brakes and oil changes listed as what makes them renaissance men.
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January 11th, 2021 at 5:46:30 PM permalink
What would Face do?
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January 11th, 2021 at 6:42:20 PM permalink
I have worked on my vehicles over years, from oil changes to a new engine. I was not particularly well trained or good at it, but I did enjoy it at times. Nowadays oil changes are cheap, less frequent, and easily done at numerous locations.
A good question would be at what price (per oil change) would you make the investment of supplies/tools/time to do it again (assuming you have the ability and space to do it)?
For me it would have to be more than ~$100-->$150 per oil change to consider doing it again on my own.
AZDuffman
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January 12th, 2021 at 3:28:52 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

If you look for examples of renaissance men in history and modern day I think it would be very rare to find brakes and oil changes listed as what makes them renaissance men.



Yeah, those men in the 1800s just took the car to get the oil changed.

Per google such a man is a person who has wide interests and is expert in several areas.

Considering how important cars are to life I would say a renaissance man needs to know about cars. Or are you going to tell me that renaissance man just uses uber because he no longer needs a car?
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billryan
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January 12th, 2021 at 7:00:07 AM permalink
A real man has henchlings and minions to do the menial stuff. Can you imagine
James Bond changing his own oil?
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January 12th, 2021 at 7:09:32 AM permalink
My girlfriend has been driving around with her oil pressure light on. She finally mentioned it and I checked the dip stick and it hardly registered any oil.

I am amazed she didnít seize the engine.
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January 12th, 2021 at 8:30:18 AM permalink
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A real man has henchlings and minions to do the menial stuff. Can you imagine
James Bond changing his own oil?



No, because the British cars he would drive leak enough oil that they change their own.
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