darkoz
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June 15th, 2020 at 8:31:48 AM permalink
Throughout my life I use certain expressions that are clearly meant to be figurative or rhetorical.

One of my favorite is "I'm willing to bet..." Or "I wager that...".

For example if I am with friends at the movies and a character who earlier has stuffed a knife in his pocket is being threatened I might say to my friends "I am willing to wager he uses his knife to get out of that situation"

Absolutely no one in my group would take me seriously and start pulling out money.

I have learned I can't do that on this forum. Any statement like "I am willing to wager..." Will be followed up by posts demanding odds, payouts and acceptance of the wager.

Yeesh, guys don't take everything so serious
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June 15th, 2020 at 11:37:25 AM permalink
poker has some great ones but I don't play poker so I don't know what they mean - but they sound real cool

when I first started gambling I didn't really know what I was doing and real often I was



𝙨𝙩𝙪𝙘𝙠 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙨𝙩𝙚𝙖𝙢𝙞𝙣𝙜






then there's some I like for horse racing


𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘬 - the favorite - comes from way back when they used a chalkboard to keep marking down the odds on the fave

𝘣𝘳𝘦𝘦𝘻𝘪𝘯𝘨 - running at a moderate speed - not full tilt

𝘣𝘶𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘵 - the best time of the day in a workout at a particular distance at a particular track

𝘮𝘢𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯 - a horse that has never won

dam - the mother of a thoroughbred -................................ 𝘴𝘪𝘳𝘦 is the father

𝘩𝘰𝘵𝘸𝘢𝘭𝘬𝘦𝘳 - the low level employee of a barn who walks the horse to cool him down after a race

𝘫𝘶𝘷𝘦𝘯𝘪𝘭𝘦 - a 2 year old horse

𝘴𝘩𝘶𝘧𝘧𝘭𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘢𝘤𝘬 - a horse who loses ground due to crowding
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June 15th, 2020 at 11:42:18 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

poker has some great ones but I don't play poker so I don't know what they mean - but they sound real cool

then there's some I like for horse racing


Am I the only person who uses a phrase like:

up for show - a horse that pays more to show than to place, usually because of a bridgejumper's horse finishing out of the money

Quote: darkoz

Throughout my life I use certain expressions that are clearly meant to be figurative or rhetorical.

One of my favorite is "I'm willing to bet..." Or "I wager that...".

For example if I am with friends at the movies and a character who earlier has stuffed a knife in his pocket is being threatened I might say to my friends "I am willing to wager he uses his knife to get out of that situation"

Absolutely no one in my group would take me seriously and start pulling out money.


This reminds me of an episode of the old F Troop TV series:
(some private) He'd be a sure bet to win!
(the fort commander) Just a minute - did I hear the word "bet"? Gambling is strictly prohibited in this territory!
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June 15th, 2020 at 11:51:28 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Throughout my life I use certain expressions that are clearly meant to be figurative or rhetorical.

One of my favorite is "I'm willing to bet..." Or "I wager that...".

For example if I am with friends at the movies and a character who earlier has stuffed a knife in his pocket is being threatened I might say to my friends "I am willing to wager he uses his knife to get out of that situation"

Absolutely no one in my group would take me seriously and start pulling out money.

I have learned I can't do that on this forum. Any statement like "I am willing to wager..." Will be followed up by posts demanding odds, payouts and acceptance of the wager.

Yeesh, guys don't take everything so serious



The gambling expression response would be: your mouth is writing checks that your @$$ can’t cash. :-)
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
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June 15th, 2020 at 12:48:01 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Throughout my life I use certain expressions that are clearly meant to be figurative or rhetorical.

One of my favorite is "I'm willing to bet..." Or "I wager that...".

For example if I am with friends at the movies and a character who earlier has stuffed a knife in his pocket is being threatened I might say to my friends "I am willing to wager he uses his knife to get out of that situation"

Absolutely no one in my group would take me seriously and start pulling out money.

I have learned I can't do that on this forum. Any statement like "I am willing to wager..." Will be followed up by posts demanding odds, payouts and acceptance of the wager.

Yeesh, guys don't take everything so serious



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June 15th, 2020 at 2:26:13 PM permalink
𝙨𝙥𝙤𝙤𝙠𝙞𝙣𝙜


probably illegal - still being done
a blackjack player stands or sits where he can see the dealer's hole card and then signals his buddy at the table its value

this was shown in the movie "Casino"
the pit boss caught one of them, backroomed him, and broke his hand


true story:

years ago, I met an old guy who told me he was BJ dealer in Vegas in the 60s
he was missing his pinky finger

he told me some whale came up to his table and won big
the bosses thought he was colluding but he wasn't
they cut off his finger
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June 15th, 2020 at 9:55:31 PM permalink
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June 16th, 2020 at 10:19:49 PM permalink
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June 16th, 2020 at 11:44:11 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

𝙨𝙥𝙤𝙤𝙠𝙞𝙣𝙜


probably illegal - still being done
a blackjack player stands or sits where he can see the dealer's hole card and then signals his buddy at the table its value

this was shown in the movie "Casino"
the pit boss caught one of them, backroomed him, and broke his hand


true story:

years ago, I met an old guy who told me he was BJ dealer in Vegas in the 60s
he was missing his pinky finger

he told me some whale came up to his table and won big
the bosses thought he was colluding but he wasn't
they cut off his finger

I'm not sure if that's illegal in Nevada. Unless they're claiming you have information not available to the other players?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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June 17th, 2020 at 2:35:42 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I'm not sure if that's illegal in Nevada. Unless they're claiming you have information not available to the other players?



I used the word "probably" because I don't know for sure - I'm sure that famous BJ AP lawyer Nersesian could give a much better answer

but yes, the player at the table getting the signal definitely has info that other players don't - he knows the dealer's hole card value
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June 17th, 2020 at 3:22:54 PM permalink
The Die is cast.

This is a strange one for me. Every gaming site and most non-gaming sites say that Julius said it as he crossing the Rubicon, and they say it means he has rolled the die and lets see what happens.
However, I am the victim of some Catholic School education and there we were taught it refers to the die that is used in coin making.
You make a die, you use it and when done you break it, but once the die is cast there can be no more changes.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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June 17th, 2020 at 4:15:21 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

The Die is cast.

This is a strange one for me. Every gaming site and most non-gaming sites say that Julius said it as he crossing the Rubicon, and they say it means he has rolled the die and lets see what happens.
However, I am the victim of some Catholic School education and there we were taught it refers to the die that is used in coin making.
You make a die, you use it and when done you break it, but once the die is cast there can be no more changes.



This is one of my favorites and I grew up learning it the same way. My mind was blown when I found out the Caesar origin. It’s a real lesson in how language changes meaning over time.

The further twist on this expression is that in the Roman days, dice were cast in a cup. So to say the die is cast for a modern person, you might visualize a craps table and the die spinning in the air. The outcome not yet determined. But for a Roman the cup was turned over and the die was no longer spinning. So the outcome was determined but not yet known. A subtle but (to me) interesting distinction on the phrase meaning.
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June 17th, 2020 at 5:11:41 PM permalink
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and then there's:



𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙚 𝙤𝙣 𝙝𝙖𝙧𝙙 8 - 𝙗𝙖𝙗𝙮 𝙣𝙚𝙚𝙙𝙨 𝙣𝙚𝙬 𝙨𝙝𝙤𝙚𝙨
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June 17th, 2020 at 7:00:57 PM permalink
All bets are off

Ready to roll (actually I think this comes from painting)
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June 18th, 2020 at 5:31:43 AM permalink
Odds-on favorite

I always seem to hear this term thrown around. It is my understanding the the "odds-on" part meant that the odds were less than even money. I think people say "odds-on favorite" when they just mean "favorite" because it sounds better.
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June 18th, 2020 at 11:33:56 AM permalink
Across The Board (originally referring to equal amounts bet on a horse to win, place, and show, but now used to refer to applying to something in general, as in, "across the board pay raises") - in fact, I remember reading about a school that tried to ban a dictionary from its library because it included the term and it was in a jurisdiction where horse race betting was illegal.
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June 18th, 2020 at 11:36:37 AM permalink
Ace in the hole

Roll the bones

Long shot
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June 21st, 2020 at 12:59:05 PM permalink
That's where the money is! (Dealer referring to side bets with long odds)

I was about to play it! (Ploppy pointing to a side bet though never having a single bet on it at any time all shoe!!)
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June 21st, 2020 at 7:27:15 PM permalink
“The hard way”
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June 22nd, 2020 at 1:21:10 AM permalink
𝙞𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙢𝙤𝙣𝙚𝙮



a horse who finished first, 2nd or 3rd

originally in horse racing win, place and show were the only bets offered

also meant that the horse's owner and connections would get some part of the purse


𝙗𝙧𝙞𝙙𝙜𝙚 𝙟𝙪𝙢𝙥𝙚𝙧


a horse player who bets a huge amount on an extreme favorite to show, sometimes to place, knowing that the track is obligated to pay him at least 5% profit if the horse does show

called such because when the horse doesn't show he might go looking for a bridge to jump off of


𝙢𝙪𝙙𝙙𝙚𝙧


a horse that runs well only on a sloppy or muddy track
some horses love the slop - you can see that they're enjoying it
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June 22nd, 2020 at 5:57:06 AM permalink
Quote: BedWetterBetter

That's where the money is!

I always thought that expression was attributed to bank robber Willie Sutton when asked why he robbed banks.

ETA -- Wikipedia says Sutton never actually said this, but rather, it was an embellishment by a reporter.
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