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billryan
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May 22nd, 2020 at 10:20:20 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Nevada’s unemployment rate for April was almost 29% which is the highest in the country. 2nd state was Michigan at 22%. Las Vegas got hit the hardest with numbers like this.




So people temporarily losing their jobs is worse than people permanently losing their lives. Seriously?
mcallister3200
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May 22nd, 2020 at 11:00:49 PM permalink
The question of the thread is economically. Long term unemployed citizens probably miss the money more than dead people. Majority of which were retirement age, although 45-64 yo age group there hit relatively hard too.
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ChumpChange
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May 22nd, 2020 at 11:33:47 PM permalink
OSHA in Iowa just looking the other way and not alerting anybody or checking things out. This pandemic is gonna spread like a California wildfire.
SOOPOO
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May 23rd, 2020 at 5:18:39 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

So people temporarily losing their jobs is worse than people permanently losing their lives. Seriously?



You have to put numbers in front of the word people for me to answer. And also define temporarily. I can assure you among the 29% unemployed a decent percentage of those are NOT temporary.

So if you say 50 people, half from nursing homes, lose their lives from COVID-19 versus 1,500,000 lose their jobs for a minimum of 4 months, some permanently, I'd say the job loss is worse. Of course you can disagree.
billryan
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May 23rd, 2020 at 6:42:57 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

You have to put numbers in front of the word people for me to answer. And also define temporarily. I can assure you among the 29% unemployed a decent percentage of those are NOT temporary.

So if you say 50 people, half from nursing homes, lose their lives from COVID-19 versus 1,500,000 lose their jobs for a minimum of 4 months, some permanently, I'd say the job loss is worse. Of course you can disagree.



Even if they lose their current job, they will not be permanently unemployed. We are approaching 100,000 dead. Not 50.
23,000 dead in NYC vs 240,000 workers in Vegas on layoff, the vast majority of whom will get relief checks and their jobs back.
I'm not even factoring in that many NYC residents have also lost their jobs. Just by its size, I'd have to think there are a lot more than 240,000 New Yorkers who are on layoffs right now. The hospitality industry in NYC alone employs somewhere around a half million people, most of whom are not working.
billryan
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May 23rd, 2020 at 6:52:46 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

The question of the thread is economically. Long term unemployed citizens probably miss the money more than dead people. Majority of which were retirement age, although 45-64 yo age group there hit relatively hard too.



Ignoring the 23,000 dead, NYC has had many more layoffs than Las Vegas.
EvenBob
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May 23rd, 2020 at 10:40:17 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

So people temporarily losing their jobs is worse than people permanently losing their lives. Seriously?



I find it odd that 100,000 have died
in the US from covid, about. Yet
not a single person in my wife's
huge family knows somebody
who died or knows of somebody
who died.

In Vietnam we lost 55,000. I personally
knew 4-5 young men who died.
Everybody knew somebody. Yet with
covid nobody knows anybody.
What's up with that.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
michael99000
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May 23rd, 2020 at 10:48:03 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I find it odd that 100,000 have died
in the US from covid, about. Yet
not a single person in my wife's
huge family knows somebody
who died or knows of somebody
who died.

In Vietnam we lost 55,000. I personally
knew 4-5 young men who died.
Everybody knew somebody. Yet with
covid nobody knows anybody.
What's up with that.



I know 4 people who died from it.

And two were previously healthy people in their mid 40s.
EvenBob
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May 23rd, 2020 at 11:01:38 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

I know 4 people who died from it. .



What did they really die of.
When you have people dying
from natural causes yet covid
is listed on the death certificate
as the cause because they had
the virus with no symptoms.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
SOOPOO
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May 23rd, 2020 at 11:35:43 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

What did they really die of.
When you have people dying
from natural causes yet covid
is listed on the death certificate
as the cause because they had
the virus with no symptoms.



Gee Bob... how many people in their 40's die of 'natural causes'? Whatever the f... that means anyway! Is a heart attack death "a natural cause?" Is cancer a "natural cause?"

You get mt point. There are at least 70,000 + that have died from COVID that would be alive if they didn't have COVID. If you believe one government agency it is 90,000 now. Some believe it is more than that. Some less. I'll go with the government number + or - 20%.

Most are pretty easy to figure out. Can't breathe. Have a fever. Test positive for COVID-19. Die.

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