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Quote: PokerGrinderWell I don’t want to risk my health to win a bet but maybe I’ll just amputate a hand or something. That should cut the 10 pounds.
How bad is your health to begin with?
There’s ways to lose 10 pounds in two weeks that aren’t a health risk at all , unless you have underlying health issues already.
Fasting or dehydrating (temporarily), can be unpleasant.
I bet even if you just ramped up your daily workouts to maybe double the daily calorie burn you’ve been doing , and reduced your daily calorie intake by 30%, and kept to it daily for two weeks, that you’d be pretty close to 10 pounds down.
AND you owned a Miata,? Come on now, quit trolling me!Quote: DRichWhen I wrestled
I guess I should have made a bet. Oh nevermind, I actually said you were going to gain weight. There's still time. 🤣🤣Quote: PokerGrinderOD it looks like you and my other wager are going to win.
Quote: PokerGrinderWell I don’t want to risk my health to win a bet but maybe I’ll just amputate a hand or something. That should cut the 10 pounds.
I would have a new level of respect for you if you did that. Play to win.
Quote: DRichI would have a new level of respect for you if you did that. Play to win.
What if he cuts his hand off only to find that the hand weighed 9.5 pounds ?
Quote: michael99000What if he cuts his hand off only to find that the hand weighed 9.5 pounds ?
Simple....move further toward the elbow. Use a meat slicer for perfect calibration and precision.
Quote: mcallister3200Don’t want to risk my health to win a bet. Says dude who ate 100 McNuggets, to win a bet.
I was a very fat f*ck, now I’m just overweight lol. That was also worth $1000 usd to me this is nowhere near that.
(I was about 270-280 pounds during the McNugget challenge)
You can send your hand to That bar in the Yukon and start a new tradition using a hand instead of a toe.Quote: PokerGrinderWell I don’t want to risk my health to win a bet but maybe I’ll just amputate a hand or something. That should cut the 10 pounds.
Quote: HunterhillYou can send your hand to That bar in the Yukon and start a new tradition using a hand instead of a toe.
I think sending a severed hand will just get me thrown in jail.
I lost 11 pounds in 7 days when I did the ration challenge and I was <200lb to begin AND I kept half of that weight off. But it was hell.Quote: michael99000If you want to win the bet, you can.
I'm afraid weight reduction surgery or amputation would be cheating and I'd claim the win.... unless it was a truly novel amputation with graphic video evidence. ( Eg with a pencil sharpener $;o)
Quote: OnceDear
I'm afraid weight reduction surgery or amputation would be cheating and I'd claim the win.... unless it was a truly novel amputation with graphic video evidence. ( Eg with a pencil sharpener $;o)
If it wasn't covered in the conditions of the wager it would never be considered cheating.
Quote: DRichIf it wasn't covered in the conditions of the wager it would never be considered cheating.
#SAVAGE
Ah, but it was...Quote: DRichIf it wasn't covered in the conditions of the wager it would never be considered cheating.
Quote: Part of a PM to PGYou to be trusted to use good digital scales. No weight reduction surgery or bad faith gorging or purging. In case of serious illness or mutual agreement, we call it off. Early surrender by mutual agreement.
I still think he'll win.
Limb amputation for the purpose of winning the wager would surely be 'weight reduction surgery' . I guess the struggle would be proving intent.Quote: michael99000I don’t see anything regarding limb amputation in that PM
£:o)
Quote: OnceDearAh, but it was...
I still think he'll win.
I guess you could consider amputation purging.
Quote: OnceDearLimb amputation for the purpose of winning the wager would surely be 'weight reduction surgery' . I guess the struggle would be proving intent.
£:o)
Maybe you’re right.
We’d have to summon one of the doctors in this forum to find out if amputation is considered surgery. It’s definitely not weight reduction surgery though , I’d be shocked if it’s ever been performed for that reason.
Interesting... I'd consider liposuction to be a weight reduction surgery, same with any operation to downsize a body, such as skin reduction or breast reduction. I'd forgive circumcision or pre-scheduled blood donation. Removal of a tumour or necrotic limb to save life would be forgiven as just part of 'essential maintenance'. Lopping his leg off would be call for a stewards' enquiry.Quote: michael99000Maybe you’re right.
We’d have to summon one of the doctors in this forum to find out if amputation is considered surgery. It’s definitely not weight reduction surgery though , I’d be shocked if it’s ever been performed for that reason.
Fact is, PG and I are unlikely to fall out over his tactics. I trust him completely and will nuke his a55 if he wins cheats.
£:o)
All this said I will be continuing with my weight loss after the holidays. Me throwing in the towel is just for this bet, I am still dedicated to lose another 30-40 pounds.
Quote: PokerGrinderI’m throwing in the towel, I’m not hitting the weight in the next two weeks. I have 3 Chanukah/Christmas dinners and I weighed in at 219.5 today. I’m not going to do anything extreme to win a small bet. OD I’ll arrange to have you get your money and I’m assuming the un-named (who is free to reveal himself if he cares to) member that I bet $100 usd with will be cool with me paying him when I see him at spring fling.
All this said I will be continuing with my weight loss after the holidays. Me throwing in the towel is just for this bet, I am still dedicated to lose another 30-40 pounds.
Spring Fling is fine. This weight loss stuff looks easier than it is. It all comes down to calories in vs out. Maybe you could propose another wager for a double or nothing.
Quote: MaxPenSpring Fling is fine. This weight loss stuff looks easier than it is. It all comes down to calories in vs out. Maybe you could propose another wager for a double or nothing.
I owe you so I’m open to a proposal Max.
Quote: PokerGrinderI’m throwing in the towel, I’m not hitting the weight in the next two weeks.
I accept your concession. You might have lost the wagers, but you succeeded substantially on the weight loss venture, so WELL DONE.Quote: PokerGrinderBtw being down 32 pounds currently I consider this venture a success even though I lost the bet.
Maybe just be mindful to not destroy ALL the progress with the forthcoming feasts.
Your lost wager will benefit Shelter UK
Quote: PokerGrinderBtw being down 32 pounds currently I consider this venture a success even though I lost the bet.
Good effort.
God loves a trier.
Frankly, PG, I am both proud and disappointed in you at the same time. I can't imagine getting to where you have and NOT finishing it off to win the bet! Ten pounds in two weeks is extremely easy. As DRich noted, people lose ten pounds in a day temporarily! I think the athletes who participate in high level MMA do more than that.
But the 30+ pounds you have lost is GREAT! I'll add some incentive for you...... If you change your mind and meet the challenge I will throw in a free meal for you at the Heart Attack Grill in Vegas......
Quote: PokerGrinderI’m trying to take weight off and keep it off for the long term.
Best start reading up on keeping weight off.
First a confession: I have only tried to lose weight once in my life (>15 years ago), succeeded, then managed to regain it over the next six months or so, which means I have little or nothing to contribute to the discussion. However, I suspect that "Ten pounds in two weeks is extremely easy" is much more relevant to someone who hasn't just recently lost 32 pounds.Quote: SOOPOOTen pounds in two weeks is extremely easy.
Quote: gordonm888Rather than amputating your hand, you could have tried penis reduction surgery. Just aim for a "normal size" when you slice and I imagine you'll lose about 10 lbs.
Um... ya I don’t know what to say to this one.
I have recently lost right at 50 pounds since June of this year with the first 15 taking 2 months. I started at an all time high of 260. It was slow at first due to developing an understanding of what truly is required to lose weight.
What I've learned comes down to something very basic. It's all about calories in vs out. I determined that a maintenance requirement for me at 250 and 6'-2" with my activity level was 2200 calories. I lost 10 pounds while figuring this out.
Then I spent a month playing around with calorie reduction and subsequent weight loss results. Lo and behold the 3500 calories per pound is a real thing. Water and salt intake can really mess with results but with consistent consumption of those 2 items you can really dial it in and see how it all comes down to calories.
So what really needs to happen in order to lose real weight permanently is figure out what your base calorie requirement is with your activity level. Then you don't want to destroy your metabolism by sending your body into starvation mode. Although if you do that initially the results will seem impressive but definitely not permanent or sustainable.
I settled on a 1/3 total deficit aiming for about 1400 calories per day and started rolling with it. It is important to account for oils, butters, dressings, and gravies. Understanding what a portion size truly looks like is really important as well. It takes a week of actual measuring to get good at this. I would say it is impossible to estimate with any accuracy without spending the disciplined week of actual physical measurements of all things you normally consume.
As the weight comes off you have to adjust to keep seeing results along the way to the goal. I am currently at 1900 maintenance calories (210 lbs) and consuming the same 1400 calories per day. This has caused a slowdown in results. But I seem to function best at that 1400 level without feeling like I'm giving up or missing out on anything.
I do like to do a one meal a day thing once or twice a week just to keep my body from getting complacent. On those days I am consuming about 700 or so calories. Which is fine and it actually seems to show real results.
I screwed around with diets and what not at various times in my life. But I never really spent time to understand what was actually going on and truly required to get and maintain results. Turns out not much.
What you eat for overall health and well being is a totally different subject in my opinion. Has nothing to do with weight loss or body weight.
I agree with Max, with the addition that realising that some foods are just Calories for Calories sake and excluding them, is the easiest low hanging fruit: Slash Sugar, Cakes, Cookies, Soda, Alcohol :( , Pizza, Pies, Wife's leftovers etc and fill your 8" plate with unlimited green stuff and almost anything with great flavour and texture. Everything else in moderation.Quote: unJonGreat post, Max. Thanks for sharing.
I'm sure some people here didn't even have that period in their life. Grew up always dealing with weight issues.
Quote: PokerGrinderSooPoo that isn’t an incentive lol. I don’t want to win the bet by “losing” the weight. I’m not looking to make weight for one day, I’m trying to take weight off and keep it off for the long term.
The two goals are NOT mutually exclusive! Your success to date is 'real' weight loss. To win the bet you would just need to add a touch of 'non-sustainable' weight loss. I guess I'm more competitive than you. I once beat a supervising physician of mine in a month long weight loss challenge. I was just a bit overweight, and he was obese. I ate one meal a day for the month, and dehydrated for the weigh in. I won by a pound or two. Of course I put all the weight back on as soon as I reverted to my generally poor diet. My recollection was that I lost 20+ pounds, but don't remember the exact number.
LOL. I sort of agree. I once won a bottle of whiskey in a weight loss challenge by unexpectedly stripping to my boxers for the final weigh in. 10lb in a couple of weeks is not a tough challenge on a Dioralyte diet.Quote: SOOPOOThe two goals are NOT mutually exclusive! Your success to date is 'real' weight loss. To win the bet you would just need to add a touch of 'non-sustainable' weight loss. I guess I'm more competitive than you. I once beat a supervising physician of mine in a month long weight loss challenge. I was just a bit overweight, and he was obese. I ate one meal a day for the month, and dehydrated for the weigh in. I won by a pound or two. Of course I put all the weight back on as soon as I reverted to my generally poor diet. My recollection was that I lost 20+ pounds, but don't remember the exact number.
But Kudos to PG for his progress so far and his honourable concession.... I have given him one last chance to un-concede
Setting aside the benifits of fasting, I'd suggest doing it just to realize some self control and prove to yourself that you can. Even if you never do it again, you'll see that you can control your appetites instead of the other way around. It's a point of reference.
Quote: Rigondeaux
Setting aside the benifits of fasting, I'd suggest doing it just to realize some self control and prove to yourself that you can. Even if you never do it again, you'll see that you can control your appetites instead of the other way around. It's a point of reference.
I agree 100%. I believe anyone should be able to achieve realistic goals if they really want to. It is all mental.
I've put on some weight since I moved from Vegas, and plan on getting back on the program right after Christmas.
Quote: billryanOne of my workers claims he went from over 350 to 250 in two years by only eating from 11am to 8pm. He says he didn't change his eating style much, just would fast 15 hours a day. He also drinks a pint of water before and after each meal.
I've put on some weight since I moved from Vegas, and plan on getting back on the program right after Christmas.
The 9 hour window for eating is a great plan. Just add 'no calories from liquids' and the weight will come off.