AcesAndEights
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May 9th, 2019 at 9:46:08 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Maybe
but
Consider this scenario which is common
You have a regular job with say a 40 mile commute
You are looking for some extra income, Uber is perfect
Start an hour or 2 before you normally commute, only accept uber rides to a destination close to work or at least in the right direction. Can pick up another ride to get closer to work.
On the way home, turn on uber and only accept rides going close to home or in the direction home. May take a ride or 2 or 3
One of my uber drivers was doing exactly that

Its not a taxi, its a ride share, Hey, you going in my direction, let me share my ride :-)


Quote: AZDuffman

Other is when you are going somewhere anyways. If you work in a downtown and live near the airport you can probably make a few rides a week.


On this point, I have read in some articles (a couple years old) that Uber makes it very difficult to operate in this manner. If you turn down X number of rides, they warn you or suspend your account. If you don't sign on very often, you get very low priority. Other similar schemes. So basically, they make it very hard to make money on their platform unless you work a lot, and accept the bad fares along with the good ones.

Quote: billryan

That's exactly what my neighbor does. He tries to pick up a fare to the airport, then one headed north from the airport. After his shift he takes someone to the airport, then a fare to Henderson. Wife does a couple of weekend shifts and they are paying down their debt.


On the other hand, there's this. It maybe that I have old info and they have changed their policies. Or it may also depend on the area in which you are driving. In an area with more drivers than riders, they can afford to penalize drivers. In the opposite scenario, not so much.
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AZDuffman
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May 9th, 2019 at 11:50:39 AM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

On this point, I have read in some articles (a couple years old) that Uber makes it very difficult to operate in this manner. If you turn down X number of rides, they warn you or suspend your account. If you don't sign on very often, you get very low priority. Other similar schemes. So basically, they make it very hard to make money on their platform unless you work a lot, and accept the bad fares along with the good ones.


On the other hand, there's this. It maybe that I have old info and they have changed their policies. Or it may also depend on the area in which you are driving. In an area with more drivers than riders, they can afford to penalize drivers. In the opposite scenario, not so much.



I tried on Lyft but never got it to work where you put in a destination. It was limited how many rides you could do this way, but it was made for the "going to the airport anyhow" crowd. I was trying Wheeling, to PIT. Didn't work well as I do not imagine many people leave that up to Lyft. I later just worked my way into a sweet courier side hustle that lasted a few months.
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billryan
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May 9th, 2019 at 11:54:55 AM permalink
I'd imagine geography has a lot to do with it. There may be more demand for rides from where we live to the airport then drivers, especially in the morning. What works in Henderson and North Las Vegas May not work near the strip. The money seems to be in three row SUVs. They are in constant demand.
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May 9th, 2019 at 1:30:19 PM permalink
So Uber is only paying the driver 60% now? So if I offer to pay the driver 80% for future rides and cut UBER out, we both do better.
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May 9th, 2019 at 1:31:44 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

So Uber is only paying the driver 60% now? So if I offer to pay the driver 80% for future rides and cut UBER out, we both do better.


But you have to find them. Uber makes the connection. That's the whole value add.
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May 9th, 2019 at 1:44:02 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

But you have to find them. Uber makes the connection. That's the whole value add.



If the driver and passenger agree to this , and exchange numbers, then itís probably very easy to arrange.
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May 11th, 2019 at 1:23:10 AM permalink
Uber's stock dropped 7.6% from the IPO set price on its first day of trading

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/10/technology/uber-stock-price-ipo.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
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May 11th, 2019 at 4:14:30 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

If the driver and passenger agree to this , and exchange numbers, then itís probably very easy to arrange.



Outside of the inconvenience of waiting g for one driver vs thousands, chances are you may not be covered in the event of an accident.

Regular car insurance does not cover ride sharing and obviously Ubers insurance won't be of use.
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May 11th, 2019 at 4:28:41 AM permalink
What percent of a rider's fee goes to the driver and what percentage goes to Uber/lyft? It seemed to me that it was a fairly low amount that went to Uber/lyft.

I don't know how or why Uber and Lyft drivers expect to make a living wage doing this side GIG(and that's what it is) since basiccly everyone but DarkOZ can do it. People here in Vegas even rent cars so they can drive for Uber and Lyft with some kind of car rental discount via the ride share. I'm not sure how that's working out for those people, but whatever, they do it. That kind of sounds like an oversold scam to me where everyone but the driver makes out.
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AZDuffman
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May 11th, 2019 at 5:08:02 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

What percent of a rider's fee goes to the driver and what percentage goes to Uber/lyft? It seemed to me that it was a fairly low amount that went to Uber/lyft.

I don't know how or why Uber and Lyft drivers expect to make a living wage doing this side GIG(and that's what it is) since basiccly everyone but DarkOZ can do it. People here in Vegas even rent cars so they can drive for Uber and Lyft with some kind of car rental discount via the ride share. I'm not sure how that's working out for those people, but whatever, they do it. That kind of sounds like an oversold scam to me where everyone but the driver makes out.



I think it depends on how you do it as well as understanding how to work a side hustle. My biggest suggestion is to find hustles that pay a high rate in a compressed period of time even if on an infrequent basis. So the UBER driver should hit the roads in Vegas the week the Rodeo Championship in in town, the week of the electronics show, etc. Only hit the road during surge pricing. Other times, go to the good suburbs and run DoorDash, again only during surge times.

I make $50-60 an hour dealing craps. But it is perhaps 30-40 hours per year only. To me that is better than working the counter at a mall store moonlighting. The hard part is finding several like this and making them all work.
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