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EvenBob
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March 26th, 2019 at 10:33:42 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I can buy that. Both that they got him off and are trying to set up a snare-trap.
You have to wonder how serious the Chicago PD will take the next hate-crime complaint.



On Tuesday, Smollett attorney Patricia Brown Holmes said it's her position that the brothers -- who she said were Smollett's fitness trainers -- were Smollett's attackers.
"The two brothers have said that they attacked him," she said. "(But) we don't want to try them in the press any more than" Smollett wanted to be, she said.

Why did they attack him, what was
the point, who put them up to it.
This whole thing is totally baffling.
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March 26th, 2019 at 11:03:02 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

TOLD YA he’d never see the inside of a jail cell!



It doesn't sound like he's not guilty, but it sounds like the prosecution or someone f'd up enough to end up making a deal. It's suggested he'll never sue the city, and maybe that's where the agreement happened. Both sides were going to lose, and they made a deal.
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March 26th, 2019 at 11:03:02 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

You post nonsense like this and have the gall to constantly complain about the title of this thread being changed... lololol



Keep living in Fantasy Land. Unfortunately, alot of people are incapable of seeing what is right in front of them staring them down.
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March 26th, 2019 at 11:08:56 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

It doesn't sound like he's not guilty, but it sounds like the prosecution or someone f'd up enough to end up making a deal. It's suggested he'll never sue the city, l.



Yet Smollett is saying the hate crime
happened exactly like he said it did,
MAGA hats and all. And the brothers
are saying they did it. I've been reading
about this for an hour and nobody
knows what the hell is really going
on. If the brothers did it, it was an
obvious staged hate crime.
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March 26th, 2019 at 11:14:29 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Yet Smollett is saying the hate crime
happened exactly like he said it did,
MAGA hats and all. And the brothers
are saying they did it. I've been reading
about this for an hour and nobody
knows what the hell is really going
on. If the brothers did it, it was an
obvious staged hate crime.



Mayor Rahm and Police Commissioner are not happy about this.

True justice would be Jussie suing the city for damage to his reputation.
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March 26th, 2019 at 11:17:13 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Yet Smollett is saying the hate crime
happened exactly like he said it did,
MAGA hats and all. And the brothers
are saying they did it. I've been reading
about this for an hour and nobody
knows what the hell is really going
on. If the brothers did it, it was an
obvious staged hate crime.

More than likely, Soros's $400,000 for the DA was a strong impetus.
Last edited by: SanchoPanza on Mar 26, 2019
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March 26th, 2019 at 11:17:49 AM permalink
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March 26th, 2019 at 11:19:36 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Yet Smollett is saying the hate crime
happened exactly like he said it did,
MAGA hats and all. And the brothers
are saying they did it. I've been reading
about this for an hour and nobody
knows what the hell is really going
on. If the brothers did it, it was an
obvious staged hate crime.

In those circles, that is labeled "contrition." Nothing less than a pure O.J. Simpson. Smolett's next step is to book a room in the renovated Palace Station.
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March 26th, 2019 at 11:22:59 AM permalink
Well, since this is alt facts and bs, this is obviously another job completed by AG Barr. Looks at facts convicting guilty man, then dismisses them.
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March 26th, 2019 at 11:29:03 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Well, since this is alt facts and bs, this is obviously another job completed by AG Barr. Looks at facts convicting guilty man, then dismisses them.

Actually, Soros's $400,00+ donation to the DA was most likely the impetus.
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March 26th, 2019 at 11:31:48 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Mayor Rahm and Police Commissioner are not happy about this.

True justice would be Jussie suing the city for damage to his reputation.



Part of the deal was he can't sue
the city. We'll probably never know
why this happened, but somebody
put the fix in, that's for sure.
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March 26th, 2019 at 11:49:31 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I just watch segments on Youtube,
I don't even know what channel
it's on with cable. I watch everything,
that's why I'm always better informed
than a lot of people here. They only
watch what they agree with.

As part of your information effort, we should note the new meaning of MAGA: "Michael Avenatti Gets Arrested." Credit DJT Jr.
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March 26th, 2019 at 12:03:33 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

...I watch everything,
that's why I'm always better informed
than a lot of people here...



Reading that is as effective as the Heimlich maneuver.
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March 26th, 2019 at 12:31:04 PM permalink
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Neither of MY posts, which you excerpted, suggested any more support for left-wing extremism than for right-wing, in their contexts. But YOUR selective editing and rhetorical "responses" are just more whataboutism, implying I was expressing a bias.

Wrong. Misleading. Mischaracterizing my posts. And strongly implying, in turn, you are a white supremacist or sympathizer. Is that the understanding we are supposed to have of you? Or perhaps you're acting as a Russian troll, inciting and escalating resentment and discord to divide us. Is that your position? I sort of doubt any of that is true, but YOU bring that implication on yourself.

There is no excuse for escalation, for political-based pitting of fellow citizens against each other, for this kind of pot-stirring. We need to rediscover the many things we have in common, not emphasize our differences into divisions overriding thoughtful and productive discussions. That's true for BOTH sides.



Babs - I noted that it was an excerpt and nowhere did I imply or allege that you were baiting anyone -- I was merely pointing out it exists on both sides
Still friends?
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March 26th, 2019 at 2:08:27 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Babs - I noted that it was an excerpt and nowhere did I imply or allege that you were baiting anyone -- I was merely pointing out it exists on both sides
Still friends?



AOS - I believe we will always be friends.

And yes, definitely both sides have descended into mean and divisive language for a while now. I'm working on my own, and I'd love to see other people doing the same.
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March 26th, 2019 at 4:34:26 PM permalink
I just heard Ken Starr say that if
Barr was wrong in the summary
he submitted, Mueller would have
immediately set the record straight.

So all this talk about Barr holding
back damning evidence is bogus.
As we already knew.
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March 26th, 2019 at 6:51:57 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I just heard Ken Starr say that if
Barr was wrong in the summary
he submitted, Mueller would have
immediately set the record straight.

So all this talk about Barr holding
back damning evidence is bogus.
As we already knew.



Ken Starr was independent of the AG. Mueller was working for the AG office. Different standards - you don't go out and contradict your boss.

There are too many open questions to make any useful conclusions about what happened. Barr took a pre-emptive stance on saying the President could not commit obstruction of justice because he is the President. So, when Mueller did not indict or exonerate, was that the basis of Barr's determination? Nobody knows.

Barr also said previously if there's no conspiracy, then there's no justice to obstruct. This is, to most other legal experts, incorrect. But is that the standard he applies in his interpretation? Nobody knows.

Mueller also may have not indicted Trump because of the DOJ regulation against filing an indictment on a sitting President. He may have intended for his findings to go to Congress, because they are not constrained by an Admin rule, and could take action if the evidence was indicating either criminal or impeachable offenses. If that was his intent (nobody knows), Barr took it on himself to try and shortcut/undercut that. Congress expects to find out why Barr inserted himself.

There are dozen or more other serious questions that can only be answered with

A. The full Mueller report.
B. Testimony by Barr and Mueller.
C. Subpoenas to several other people and for several underlying documents.

So, we'll see.
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March 26th, 2019 at 8:11:41 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

So, we'll see.



It's not just Barr, it's also Rosenstein who
who wrote the summery. He hates Trump's
guts, was a major player in the Mueller
thing. What reason would he have to not
be true to what the report concluded.

Be ready to be disappointed yet again.
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March 27th, 2019 at 12:47:11 AM permalink
Trump called Vice President Pence into his office. Pence comes in, not knowing what to expect, which is almost always the case anyway.

Trump points to a 30 piece puzzle of the New York skyline assembled on his desk,

Pence nods his head, not sure what to say.

Trump says, "The box says 3 to 7 years. I DID IT IN 6 DAYS!"

~~~~~~~~~

The above is all true.
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March 27th, 2019 at 12:58:31 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine



Trump says, "The box says 3 to 7 years. I DID IT IN 6 DAYS!"



I heard the exact same joke about Bush.
Probably used it with Reagan. The Dems
have a very thin playbook. Bottom line
is, they had to be smart enough to get
elected, and Hillary wasn't. There's
your joke.
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March 27th, 2019 at 2:46:07 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Trump called Vice President Pence into his office. Pence comes in, not knowing what to expect, which is almost always the case anyway.

Trump points to a 30 piece puzzle of the New York skyline assembled on his desk,

Pence nods his head, not sure what to say.

Trump says, "The box says 3 to 7 years. I DID IT IN 6 DAYS!"

~~~~~~~~~

The above is all true.



I heard that as a blonde joke as early as the early 1990s.
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March 27th, 2019 at 3:52:41 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I heard that as a blonde joke as early as the early 1990s.



Well, Donald does dye his hair blond...
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March 27th, 2019 at 4:58:55 AM permalink
The original post in this thread;

Quote: MaxPen

Figured this thread would provide a place to discuss events affecting everyone's daily lives. Try to keep it on topic for all things current. Please provide links to support topics discussed.

If you are white and love the United States you may soon find yourself on the naughty list.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/434555-house-judiciary-committee-plans-hearing-on-white-nationalism



Like most other free speech threads these days, this one eventually ends up on "Trump"...

I would like to suggest that we use the existing "Trump" threads for that purpose and let these other threads discuss life other than Trump--

--"Trump's Second And Third Year in Office" for current happenings...
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30375-trumps-second-and-third-year-in-office/

--"Will Trump Be Impeached" for things related to possible impeachment and perhaps investigations...
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/27906-will-trump-be-impeached/

--"2020 Election" for the upcoming Presidential election and other election discussion
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/31688-2020-election/

This board allows some "free speech" stuff but the newer ones seem to follow the pattern of discussing a few things and then sliding into Trump-O-Mania. This is common on Facebook and other social media.

I'm not a mod, so this is only a suggestion but I think we would actually hear about more different things if we left the defense of and attack on Trump stuff in these three places.
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March 27th, 2019 at 5:11:33 AM permalink
Smollett did not get away with what happened. I am betting that a combination of the inability to get the brothers' testimony strong enough for a trial and his own pretty clean (I think that there was one minor thing before, but I am not sure) led to the decision; perhaps that was enhanced with a dose of favorable treatment by some powerful folks. In return for whatever was offered him as a "deal" he ended up doing community service and forfeiting his $10,000 bond. So, possibly no criminal record on this (I am betting it come back if he gets in trouble again withing a certain period, but who knows) but very definitely a tacit admission of wrongdoing.

The letter being sent to the Feds might not be worked out as easily...he could face consequences for that.

He is despicable. He attempted to use problems that we do have with racist crap in an attempt to get more attention for himself. Instead of just walking away, he made a statement sticking by his original story.
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March 27th, 2019 at 10:57:39 AM permalink
Quote: RonC

Smollett did not get away with what happened. I am betting that a combination of the inability to get the brothers' testimony strong enough for a trial



This is all Kim Foxx's doing, look no
further. Cronyism at it's best. She's
a real piece of Lib work..

https://pagesix.com/2019/03/26/chicago-cops-have-long-list-of-gripes-against-smollett-prosecutor/
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March 27th, 2019 at 11:07:47 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Part of the deal was he can't sue
the city. We'll probably never know
why this happened, but somebody
put the fix in, that's for sure.




https://www.google.com/amp/s/pagesix.com/2019/03/27/will-jussie-smollett-sue-after-charges-dropped/amp/

We both know he won’t sue Chicago but it would be great.

Poetic justice would be him never getting film work other than in gay porn. Then again he would love that.
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March 27th, 2019 at 11:11:37 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

https://www.google.com/amp/s/pagesix.com/2019/03/27/will-jussie-smollett-sue-after-charges-dropped/amp/

We both know he won’t sue Chicago but it would be great.



Part of the deal was he wouldn't sue,
and he did all he was accused of so
he would lose anyway.
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March 27th, 2019 at 11:44:02 PM permalink
Sean Hannity had Trump on tonight for
half an hour. Trump asked about Judge
Jeanine and Hannity said she's coming
back Saturday night. So Fox folded to the
pressure from her fans and Trump, she's
back on the air.

Judge Jeanine is a huge Trump fan, even
during the election. Her first show back
should be interesting.
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March 28th, 2019 at 1:11:08 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Sean Hannity had Trump on tonight for
half an hour. Trump asked about Judge
Jeanine and Hannity said she's coming
back Saturday night. So Fox folded to the
pressure from her fans and Trump, she's
back on the air.



Folded? They were always were bringing her back. I had the inside knowledge. Fox without Jeanine Pirro is like Frankenstein monster without his damaged brain.
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March 28th, 2019 at 4:40:19 AM permalink
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Reading that is as effective as the Heimlich maneuver.



So,judging by the fact that the Heimlich Maneuver has saved many lives, very effective then. ;)
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March 28th, 2019 at 9:57:26 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Folded? They were always were bringing her back. I had the inside knowledge.



Not about this you didn't.
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March 28th, 2019 at 10:34:50 AM permalink
It looks like Jussie won't be back on
Empire and will be sued by Chicago
for the couple hundred grand he
cost them with his fake police report.

https://deadline.com/2019/03/jussie-smollett-empire-future-series-renewal-criminal-charges-dropped-fox-1202583688/
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March 28th, 2019 at 10:48:07 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

It looks like Jussie won't be back on
Empire and will be sued by Chicago
for the couple hundred grand he
cost them with his fake police report.

https://deadline.com/2019/03/jussie-smollett-empire-future-series-renewal-criminal-charges-dropped-fox-1202583688/



It will great to hear the crowd go nuts tonight when Trump brings him up at his rally.
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March 28th, 2019 at 2:54:56 PM permalink
Jussie smollett meets judge judy

new motto for the left: “I don't know if I received bad information, but I think I suspected there was more than there actually was,” (John Brennan Mar 25, 2019)
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March 28th, 2019 at 3:44:29 PM permalink
......
Last edited by: AxelWolf on Mar 28, 2019
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 28th, 2019 at 3:45:12 PM permalink
Quote: Fleaswatter

Jussie smollett meets judge judy

JJ for president.

JS for lockup.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 29th, 2019 at 5:22:59 PM permalink
The Smollett case just keeps going. Now
the chief of police says if he doesn't get a
check from Jussie in the next week for
$130K for the damages he incurred,
he arresting him for lying in the orig
police report.

Kim Foxx said she recused herself, then
said she never really did and released
Smollett. She has no valid reason for
doing this, so she's being investigated
for taking a bribe from Hwood or the
Obama's. It could be cash, it could
be a promise from Michelle to show
up at a campaign rally. It could be
a huge campaign donation. But they're
onto her now, they are super pissed
she let him go.
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