Boz
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July 14th, 2018 at 12:55:36 PM permalink
Quote: Tanko

Hire the same people boymimbo used. That should speed the process.



Or the people Lucky Dragon used.
rxwine
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July 14th, 2018 at 1:12:08 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

But if he has a poor opinion of how the country is run, not sure why he wants to be a citizen unless he has found a financial loophole to better himself.



Having a poor opinion of the person in the oval office does not mean you hate the system itself.

Anyway, complaining about big government and long waiting time becoming even more difficult and long is almost the purest description of a conservative sentiment. That's what he complained about. Surely you can understand that much.


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I take anything and everything as a compliment.



Your call.
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July 14th, 2018 at 2:42:02 PM permalink
rsactuary: Are eligible for any Canadian pension once you reach the correct age?
50-50-90 Rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there is a 90% probability you'll get it wrong
dogqck
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July 14th, 2018 at 7:17:21 PM permalink
Trapped in a casino overnight during a blizzard. After 2 am 8 handed holdem, 5 Asian males , 2 Asian females and white boy me.
Learned 2 things that night. How much money they spend to become citizens and how mad 1 male was at his gf from crossing from Canada to Washington state illegally. Plan to fly to Denver to surprise him. He blew a gasket and insisted she go back to Canada NOW. Seems if immigration had busted her, her chances of legal immigration would have evaporated.
Also learned Electronic baccarat would be dead on arrival. Dealer said casino was going to get Baccarat soon. Both female squealed with delight, taking turns pantomiming how they like to peek at cards. Very animated until dealer said it would be electronic. Not sure what one said as she reverted to native language. Other female said " F*** That " And everybody went back to Holdem. Lots of conversations about immigration, lawyers, wait times etc. But not another mention of Baccarat.
rsactuary
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July 15th, 2018 at 7:35:15 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Going to sound hateful but if you feel this way, why bother. Keep using us for a job and stay a single citizen of a Country you are proud of.

People with your attitude toward to legally elected President of the US are the exact reason while liberals are pushing for the naturalization of illegals.

It’s not compassion, it trying to save their asses as many current Americans are seeing through their BS.

This probably isn’t the thread for it, but I will say you started it with not being able to document your journey without a Trump jab.



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I am not going to condemn you for having a political position, but I don't think that this was a good thing to introduce to this thread.



Sorry for the delay in responding, but I went out of town after my original posts and just now getting a chance to put my thoughts down in writing.

I started this thread to provide a view of an immigrant going through this process. I thought it might be interesting for people to see the other side of things. Yes, that means you have to leave your comfortable little bubble and see things from a different perspective.

Part of the reason I want to get citizenship is because of stories I am reading about people with green cards with minor crimes against them (yes, I realize two traffic tickets are not really considered minor crimes) being deported.

Here are links to those stories:

http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/national/even-with-green-cards-immigrants-can-be-deported-under-new-guidelines-20180714

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/04/married-immigrants-seeking-green-cards-are-now-targets-for-deportation/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/22/ice-detains-a-polish-doctor-and-green-card-holder-who-has-lived-in-the-u-s-for-nearly-40-years/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ccdff5ffd48b

Note that all of these stories talk about a change in position with the current administration. As I was filling out this form, I thought long and hard about the consequences that reporting two traffic tickets to an immigration official might have on my status. Yes, I really cannot be 100% sure that it won’t result in deportation. Two years ago, I wouldn't have given it any thought. Sorry if that’s uncomfortable for you, but that’s the way it is, and you need to know that that is a legitimate fear of people going through this process, and is a legitimate feeling to bring up in this thread.

I am proud to be living in the US, even when GHWB and GWB were presidents, even though I didn’t like their policies as much. This administration is different, and it will pass within a generation as all the angry old white men die off, and hopefully we’ll never see another one like it.

But one bad president doesn’t change the long term view of the way the country is set up. the democracy or the hopes and dreams that this country represents. I want to become a citizen for that, as well as the financial implications for my estate.

If understanding how people who are not like you think is uncomfortable for you, then maybe you shouldn’t come back to this thread.
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July 16th, 2018 at 1:16:21 AM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

Sorry for the delay in responding, but I went out of town after my original posts and just now getting a chance to put my thoughts down in writing.

I started this thread to provide a view of an immigrant going through this process. I thought it might be interesting for people to see the other side of things. Yes, that means you have to leave your comfortable little bubble and see things from a different perspective.



Really? You quote me in this post just for hoping this thread will be about your path to immigration and not devolve too far into politics? Whatever. The only reason for me having that view was that we have enough nasty political threads already, not because I don't think politics has long played a role in the immigration policy. Bad politics. Ones that divide us and don't get the job done. Going on for years and years. Sometimes better polices, sometimes worse...but the problem never gets fixed.

Some Democrats want more voters because they think every minority will fall to their side of the fence. As a way of potential adding to their voters, they favor lax border policies, non-citizen voting, and the like. The more people that come in, the more that will eventually become legal voters. Some Republicans have a side that wants the cheap labor for meat-cutting plants, etc. Effectively, both have enough of a faction to prevent the passage of comprehensive immigration reform. By not doing their jobs, they cede their power to the bureaucracy and to the Executive branch.
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July 16th, 2018 at 2:47:32 AM permalink
Seems simple to me.

Crossing into the US illegally is a misdemeanor.

Two traffic tickets are two misdemeanors.

One year old children are having to defend themselves in court.

Lots of stories about non-criminals being deported.

Not a stretch for rsactuary to worry how far they will take it.

Best wishes on your journey. Truly.
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gamerfreak
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July 16th, 2018 at 5:19:47 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Two traffic tickets are two misdemeanors.


Usually they are summary offenses. Less than a misdemeanor.
RonC
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July 16th, 2018 at 5:35:06 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Seems simple to me.

Crossing into the US illegally is a misdemeanor.

Two traffic tickets are two misdemeanors.

One year old children are having to defend themselves in court.

Lots of stories about non-criminals being deported.

Not a stretch for rsactuary to worry how far they will take it.

Best wishes on your journey. Truly.



If only...we can't act as if there was never a controversial deportation prior to the current President being elected. The problem really lies in the fact that so much of the power that the Congress should use to solve the immigration issues has been given up because, as a whole, they refuse to do anything...no matter who is in charge of Congress. President Obama stopped the family detentions, then started them again. He worked on building protections on DACA, but the most he could do was an Executive Order which was likely illegal/unconstitutional and most assuredly easily reversible.

There have been people who have served in war deported.

President Trump's policies may be more severe, which is pretty much what he said he would do. Is anyone surprised? If it is a "racist policy" then President Obama's policies must have been racist also. Elections do have consequences, as does a Congress more interested in staying in office than making America better by sorting out our immigration laws and making them better. They could do it one step at a time or all at once; instead, they do nothing...under either party.

The press plays the game--pollsters ask "Do you support a fence across the entire Mexico border?" instead of do you favor the 700 miles of enhanced border fence that Senator Clinton favored or the 1000 miles that President Trump has promised? What people want, for the most part, is an end to illegal immigration, reasonable worker permits and varieties of Visas with penalties for overstaying your welcome, and perhaps a reasonable path to citizenship along with fair ways of treating illegals as we decide to allow them to stay or deport them.

If any one of us chooses to ignore a law, we are subject to the penalties for that. The offense of crossing the border illegally may be a misdemeanor, but is still illegal. If you ignore the law and come in illegally, you are subject to arrest and deportation at any point. That is the law, right? If you or I, as citizens, commit a misdemeanor we are subject to arrest. That is the law. If we get a ticket and ignore it, missing a court date, the next time we meet a police officer he will be putting us in bracelets.

If only this were an easy problem to solve...

Perhaps it is time to protest the whole of Congress and not whoever the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania may be....Congress has abdicated their responsibility in many areas; now they just hold Friday press conferences to talk about the evil other side.

I still hope rsanctuary sails through the process. I don't care about his political leanings or how he feels about the President. From what I know about him, which is not a lot, I think that he would be a great citizen.

Truly.

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Obama Detentions

"“When he took office he made the decision that family detention was a bad policy. And so he ended the program, only to begin it again on a much wider scale,” Hines said."

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/president-obama-the-legacy/obama-leaves-behind-mixed-legacy-immigration-n703656
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July 16th, 2018 at 7:24:36 AM permalink
I think the entire US Congress should be put out of office. They have completely abdicated their responsibilities for ensuring competence in confirmations, stayed silent on damaging and controversial Trump actions and outbursts, and sold themselves to the corporations and lobbyists.

I am ashamed of them all.
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