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Great picture does not even need an explanation. Food is made to be looked at not described.
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Great picture does not even need an explanation. Food is made to be looked at not described.
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I once heard there is another use for it.
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Great picture does not even need an explanation. Food is made to be looked at not described.
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I once heard there is another use for it.
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All the great restaurants have pictures of their meals on the menu.
And crayons.
Quote: billryanQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: EvenBob
Great picture does not even need an explanation. Food is made to be looked at not described.
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I once heard there is another use for it.
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All the great restaurants have pictures of their meals on the menu.
And crayons.
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They stopped giving me the crayons at Cracker Barrel.
And they were my favorite appetizer!
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Great picture does not even need an explanation. Food is made to be looked at not described.
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I once heard there is another use for it.
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All the great restaurants have pictures of their meals on the menu.
And crayons.
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They stopped giving me the crayons at Cracker Barrel.
And they were my favorite appetizer!
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A tip from my ex-father-in-law:
Asking for crayons for yourself is gauche, but asking for crayons for your dining counterpart is classy.
The Choice hotel I was staying in had a promo for BOGO meals during certain hours. As I was traveling alone, I asked if I could eat one there and get another to go. I ordered a chicken steak dinner to eat in, and a fried chicken dinner to go. My food arrived, and I realized the server had brought out the sides for both dinners along with the steak.
The food was great, and she bought me a fried chicken dinner to go. I paid and walked across the parking lot to my room.
When I went to put the food away, there were two full dinners: fried chicken and sides and another chicken steak and sides.
I guess when you are a mile or two away from The Big Texan, you have to compete anyway you can.
giving em credit
In an alarming development since posting this, a local Kroger had absolutely no cornmeal to buy. None, and no room on the shelf for it either. You could be several different kinds of the type that comes out like cake.... the way Northerners make it.Quote: EvenBob
I've never heard cornbread was a major cause for the Civil War. Now that I know that it's completely understandable. Everything comes down to food.
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This store is in Virginia.
For a more complete history of the war, Southerners had been telling Northerners for the longest time that it's OK to make cornbread that's full of sugar and flour. Just don't call it cornbread! It's CAKE
Nothing changed and the next thing you know, Ft. Sumter!
And now this development, no cornmeal in a store in VA. Seems to me these battles are still being fought
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Great picture does not even need an explanation. Food is made to be looked at not described.
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I once heard there is another use for it.
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All the great restaurants have pictures of their meals on the menu.
And crayons.
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Actually I read an article about that. High-end restaurants used to not put pictures on their menus because they considered it beneath them but more and more of them are doing it because if they don't too many customers want detailed descriptions of exactly what the food looks like and this saves the restaurant lots of time by having pictures. Here's something you probably never heard, a picture is worth a thousand words. You've obviously never heard it because you never post pictures. Maybe you can't afford a smartphone and that's why.
Quote: odiousgambitIn an alarming development since posting this, a local Kroger had absolutely no cornmeal to buy. None, and no room on the shelf for it either. You could be several different kinds of the type that comes out like cake.... the way Northerners make it.Quote: EvenBob
I've never heard cornbread was a major cause for the Civil War. Now that I know that it's completely understandable. Everything comes down to food.
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This store is in Virginia.
For a more complete history of the war, Southerners had been telling Northerners for the longest time that it's OK to make cornbread that's full of sugar and flour. Just don't call it cornbread! It's CAKE
Nothing changed and the next thing you know, Ft. Sumter!
And now this development, no cornmeal in a store in VA. Seems to me these battles are still being fought
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I always thought the reason they gave for the Civil War was suspect. Good to know what the real reason was, this makes perfect sense.

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Actually I read an article about that. High-end restaurants used to not put pictures on their menus because they considered it beneath them but more and more of them are doing it because if they don't too many customers want detailed descriptions of exactly what the food looks like and this saves the restaurant lots of time by having pictures. Here's something you probably never heard, a picture is worth a thousand words. You've obviously never heard it because you never post pictures. Maybe you can't afford a smartphone and that's why.
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I have been to many higher end restaurants and I don't recall a single one having pictures.
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Actually I read an article about that. High-end restaurants used to not put pictures on their menus because they considered it beneath them but more and more of them are doing it because if they don't too many customers want detailed descriptions of exactly what the food looks like and this saves the restaurant lots of time by having pictures. Here's something you probably never heard, a picture is worth a thousand words. You've obviously never heard it because you never post pictures. Maybe you can't afford a smartphone and that's why.
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I have been to many higher end restaurants and I don't recall a single one having pictures.
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In the few really high-end places I've eaten, the atmosphere is usually so dark that you can barely read the menu.

Quote: EvenBobHomemade chicken vegetable soup, I made 3 days worth.
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I make that too and fairly regularly, but with different vegetables. I like eggplant but never thought about using it in chicken soup. I use: leek, carrot, turnip, parsnip, mushrooms, and red quinoa.
Back east there was a supermarket that would sell all the vegetables and herbs you need for vegetable soups shrink wrapped in a package for your convenience.
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Actually I read an article about that. High-end restaurants used to not put pictures on their menus because they considered it beneath them but more and more of them are doing it because if they don't too many customers want detailed descriptions of exactly what the food looks like and this saves the restaurant lots of time by having pictures. Here's something you probably never heard, a picture is worth a thousand words. You've obviously never heard it because you never post pictures. Maybe you can't afford a smartphone and that's why.
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I have been to many higher end restaurants and I don't recall a single one having pictures.
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"While it's not common for high-end restaurants to include food pictures
on their menus, it's not unheard of and could become more prevalent
in the future. The use of food photography on menus is increasingly in
demand."
It is entirely plausible that I visit the wrong sorts of restaurants.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
Actually I read an article about that. High-end restaurants used to not put pictures on their menus because they considered it beneath them but more and more of them are doing it because if they don't too many customers want detailed descriptions of exactly what the food looks like and this saves the restaurant lots of time by having pictures. Here's something you probably never heard, a picture is worth a thousand words. You've obviously never heard it because you never post pictures. Maybe you can't afford a smartphone and that's why.
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I have been to many higher end restaurants and I don't recall a single one having pictures.
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"While it's not common for high-end restaurants to include food pictures
on their menus, it's not unheard of and could become more prevalent
in the future. The use of food photography on menus is increasingly in
demand."
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Probably more common in other countries and places that cater to foreign tourists.
I believe Woolworth's counters extensively used photos. It all depends on what you consider upscale. I used to think Boulder Creek was upscale.
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Actually I read an article about that. High-end restaurants used to not put pictures on their menus because they considered it beneath them but more and more of them are doing it because if they don't too many customers want detailed descriptions of exactly what the food looks like and this saves the restaurant lots of time by having pictures. Here's something you probably never heard, a picture is worth a thousand words. You've obviously never heard it because you never post pictures. Maybe you can't afford a smartphone and that's why.
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I have been to many higher end restaurants and I don't recall a single one having pictures.
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"While it's not common for high-end restaurants to include food pictures
on their menus, it's not unheard of and could become more prevalent
in the future. The use of food photography on menus is increasingly in
demand."
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Probably more common in other countries and places that cater to foreign tourists.
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In this country places that get a lot of tourist business from other countries are starting to use photos because the tourists have no idea what they're ordering. A picture is worth a thousand words is not just a old saying, it's the absolute truth.




Taking a day off. Mixto fajitas - chicken, shrimp, beef.
The shrimp and chicken are perfectly charred. This may be the first pico de gallo I've enjoyed, as it is neither too intensely spiced, nor overwhelmed with cilantro. The beans are perfectly seasoned and savory.
The tortillas are a little smaller diameter than I like. Frankly, if that's the biggest complaint, everything is just fine.
Unlike a lot of formulaic Mexican restaurants, the food was not served instantly after ordering. They had to cook it, not just microwave it.
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Taking a day off. Mixto fajitas - chicken, shrimp, beef.
The shrimp and chicken are perfectly charred. This may be the first pico de gallo I've enjoyed, as it is neither too intensely spiced, nor overwhelmed with cilantro. The beans are perfectly seasoned and savory.
The tortillas are a little smaller diameter than I like. Frankly, if that's the biggest complaint, everything is just fine.
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This picture is worth 1,272 words. A certain other form member who shall go unnamed would just describe this lunch as a pile of Mexican food and we're supposed to guess what it looks like from his description.
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Taking a day off. Mixto fajitas - chicken, shrimp, beef.
The shrimp and chicken are perfectly charred. This may be the first pico de gallo I've enjoyed, as it is neither too intensely spiced, nor overwhelmed with cilantro. The beans are perfectly seasoned and savory.
The tortillas are a little smaller diameter than I like. Frankly, if that's the biggest complaint, everything is just fine.
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This picture is worth 1,272 words. A certain other form member who shall go unnamed would just describe this lunch as a pile of Mexican food and we're supposed to guess what it looks like from his description.
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The downside is that a really bad digital camera can make everything look horrible.
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Taking a day off. Mixto fajitas - chicken, shrimp, beef.
The shrimp and chicken are perfectly charred. This may be the first pico de gallo I've enjoyed, as it is neither too intensely spiced, nor overwhelmed with cilantro. The beans are perfectly seasoned and savory.
The tortillas are a little smaller diameter than I like. Frankly, if that's the biggest complaint, everything is just fine.
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This picture is worth 1,272 words. A certain other form member who shall go unnamed would just describe this lunch as a pile of Mexican food and we're supposed to guess what it looks like from his description.
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The downside is that a really bad digital camera can make everything look horrible.
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I find no fault with that picture if that's what you're talking about. It has really good detail and clarity.
Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobQuote: Dieter
Taking a day off. Mixto fajitas - chicken, shrimp, beef.
The shrimp and chicken are perfectly charred. This may be the first pico de gallo I've enjoyed, as it is neither too intensely spiced, nor overwhelmed with cilantro. The beans are perfectly seasoned and savory.
The tortillas are a little smaller diameter than I like. Frankly, if that's the biggest complaint, everything is just fine.
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This picture is worth 1,272 words. A certain other form member who shall go unnamed would just describe this lunch as a pile of Mexican food and we're supposed to guess what it looks like from his description.
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The downside is that a really bad digital camera can make everything look horrible.
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Does it make the food taste better? Worse? Does a good digital camera make one eat more? I used to think people joked about foodporn, but some recent posts have made me reexamine my thoughts.
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Does it make the food taste better? Worse? Does a good digital camera make one eat more? I used to think people joked about foodporn, but some recent posts have made me reexamine my thoughts.
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For me, personally, it just seems to keep people from griping at me over the fact that I skipped a photo.
Some people are going to post a photo only, or a photo with a brief description. Hip-hip, hooray - You ate a food today. Good job. (Cue applause.)
I prefer to actually write something about what I liked and didn't like about the meal. I don't want to get a thousand words into mommyblog style history of why this dish reminds me of skinned knees in autumn leaves and isn't everything in life just so adorably precious before we get to the recipe.
In this context, at least, the diner is the interesting part. The photoand the name of the dish merely provide context.
I can probably get a better food photo on the restaurant's website or a grocery store recipe magazine; I can almost definitely get a better description of the food by busting out my copy of Larousse Gastronomique. What I can't get elsewhere is your description of your dining experience. Thinking about it enough to describe it helps me, at least.

Quote: DieterQuote: billryan
Does it make the food taste better? Worse? Does a good digital camera make one eat more? I used to think people joked about foodporn, but some recent posts have made me reexamine my thoughts.
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For me, personally, it just seems to keep people from griping at me over the fact that I skipped a photo.
Some people are going to post a photo only, or a photo with a brief description. Hip-hip, hooray - You ate a food today. Good job. (Cue applause.)
I prefer to actually write something about what I liked and didn't like about the meal. I don't want to get a thousand words into mommyblog style history of why this dish reminds me of skinned knees in autumn leaves and isn't everything in life just so adorably precious before we get to the recipe.
In this context, at least, the diner is the interesting part. The photoand the name of the dish merely provide context.
I can probably get a better food photo on the restaurant's website or a grocery store recipe magazine; I can almost definitely get a better description of the food by busting out my copy of Larousse Gastronomique. What I can't get elsewhere is your description of your dining experience. Thinking about it enough to describe it helps me, at least.
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Yes photographs of food are totally unimportant. There are hundreds of YouTube channels of people just talking about food with absolutely no pictures. Just today I watched a 30-minute video of the 10 best buffets in Hong Kong and it was just a guy sitting in a chair talking about the food with not a single picture or video. It was spellbinding. Or when I go into the grocery store the can of pork and beans just says pork and beans on it with no picture. The cans of pears or peaches have no pictures on them. There's no pictures on any of the food in the grocery store because it's not needed. People aren't stupid they know what they're buying. When I see commercials for food on TV, any kind of food, there's never any pictures or video in the commercial it's just somebody talking about the food. Just saw a commercial for a breakfast cereal and it was some kid staring into the camera telling us about how much he enjoyed eating the little things in the bowl. Made me want to run out and buy 10 boxes of it. Or a billboard on the highway advertising food there's never any pictures of it, why would there be. When you go through the drive-thru at Wendy's or McDonald's they have dozens of unnecessary pictures on their outdoor menus. How silly, how stupid, what a waste of time. Don't they realize just a dull boring description would be enough?
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Does it make the food taste better? Worse? Does a good digital camera make one eat more? I used to think people joked about foodporn, but some recent posts have made me reexamine my thoughts.
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For me, personally, it just seems to keep people from griping at me over the fact that I skipped a photo.
Some people are going to post a photo only, or a photo with a brief description. Hip-hip, hooray - You ate a food today. Good job. (Cue applause.)
I prefer to actually write something about what I liked and didn't like about the meal. I don't want to get a thousand words into mommyblog style history of why this dish reminds me of skinned knees in autumn leaves and isn't everything in life just so adorably precious before we get to the recipe.
In this context, at least, the diner is the interesting part. The photoand the name of the dish merely provide context.
I can probably get a better food photo on the restaurant's website or a grocery store recipe magazine; I can almost definitely get a better description of the food by busting out my copy of Larousse Gastronomique. What I can't get elsewhere is your description of your dining experience. Thinking about it enough to describe it helps me, at least.
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Yes photographs of food are totally unimportant. There are hundreds of YouTube channels of people just talking about food with absolutely no pictures. Just today I watched a 30-minute video of the 10 best buffets in Hong Kong and it was just a guy sitting in a chair talking about the food with not a single picture or video. It was spellbinding. Or when I go into the grocery store the can of pork and beans just says pork and beans on it with no picture. The cans of pears or peaches have no pictures on them. There's no pictures on any of the food in the grocery store because it's not needed. People aren't stupid they know what they're buying. When I see commercials for food on TV, any kind of food, there's never any pictures or video in the commercial it's just somebody talking about the food. Just saw a commercial for a breakfast cereal and it was some kid staring into the camera telling us about how much he enjoyed eating the little things in the bowl. Made me want to run out and buy 10 boxes of it. Or a billboard on the highway advertising food there's never any pictures of it, why would there be. When you go through the drive-thru at Wendy's or McDonald's they have dozens of unnecessary pictures on their outdoor menus. How silly, how stupid, what a waste of time. Don't they realize just a dull boring description would be enough?
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One obvious difference is that I'm not trying to sell anybody my lunch.
Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobQuote: DieterQuote: billryan
Does it make the food taste better? Worse? Does a good digital camera make one eat more? I used to think people joked about foodporn, but some recent posts have made me reexamine my thoughts.
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For me, personally, it just seems to keep people from griping at me over the fact that I skipped a photo.
Some people are going to post a photo only, or a photo with a brief description. Hip-hip, hooray - You ate a food today. Good job. (Cue applause.)
I prefer to actually write something about what I liked and didn't like about the meal. I don't want to get a thousand words into mommyblog style history of why this dish reminds me of skinned knees in autumn leaves and isn't everything in life just so adorably precious before we get to the recipe.
In this context, at least, the diner is the interesting part. The photoand the name of the dish merely provide context.
I can probably get a better food photo on the restaurant's website or a grocery store recipe magazine; I can almost definitely get a better description of the food by busting out my copy of Larousse Gastronomique. What I can't get elsewhere is your description of your dining experience. Thinking about it enough to describe it helps me, at least.
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Yes photographs of food are totally unimportant. There are hundreds of YouTube channels of people just talking about food with absolutely no pictures. Just today I watched a 30-minute video of the 10 best buffets in Hong Kong and it was just a guy sitting in a chair talking about the food with not a single picture or video. It was spellbinding. Or when I go into the grocery store the can of pork and beans just says pork and beans on it with no picture. The cans of pears or peaches have no pictures on them. There's no pictures on any of the food in the grocery store because it's not needed. People aren't stupid they know what they're buying. When I see commercials for food on TV, any kind of food, there's never any pictures or video in the commercial it's just somebody talking about the food. Just saw a commercial for a breakfast cereal and it was some kid staring into the camera telling us about how much he enjoyed eating the little things in the bowl. Made me want to run out and buy 10 boxes of it. Or a billboard on the highway advertising food there's never any pictures of it, why would there be. When you go through the drive-thru at Wendy's or McDonald's they have dozens of unnecessary pictures on their outdoor menus. How silly, how stupid, what a waste of time. Don't they realize just a dull boring description would be enough?
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One obvious difference is that I'm not trying to sell anybody my lunch.
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No, the difference is food is a very visual subject and just talking about it with a description is almost meaningless. Food photography is an actual profession, I used to know somebody who was in it. Made big bucks doing it. Why? Because people like looking at pictures of food, they like knowing what they're getting they like knowing what people are talking about. Has nothing to do with what you're selling. This is why high-end restaurants make a big deal about how they present their food when it gets to you. They just don't throw it on a plate in a pile, eating is also a visual experience. Even in the old cookbooks before they had photography in books there would often be diagrams and drawings of the food so people knew what they were preparing looks like. There's only one reason not to include a picture of the food you're talking about and we all know what that reason is, don't we.
cabbage sauteed in chicken fat, fresh tomato.
Sesame oil and soy sauce, ginger, garlic and
onion powder. Sorry to offend some of the more
delicately minded people here with a photograph,
but this picture is worth at least 870 words.


And this is even better. In communist China there are over 9,000 KFC Outlets and their menus are in outer space compared to the United States.

Quote: EvenBobHere's a little known fact for you. In communist China there are 4,500 McDonald's. And their menu looks nothing like any McDonald's in the United States...
The C in their KFC does not stand for chicken. Meat of animals we either consider pets, or relegate to an exterminator.

It looks like a gelatinous mass of rotting deli meat on top of it. I fished it out to get a closer look...

How disgusting! But... I'm going to drink the tea anyway. What kind of a vile, savage animal would consume such a thing?
Worst of all, I'm going to refill that jug with new tea, put that septic mass of microbes back on top of it and repeat this process in a week. How depraved!
Any others here who engage in this awful practice?
bacteria that would spoil tea would not like your tissues, but might leave behind toxinsQuote: AutomaticMonkeyTea, sweetened tea, but it rotted! Eww!
It looks like a gelatinous mass of rotting deli meat on top of it. I fished it out to get a closer look...
How disgusting! But... I'm going to drink the tea anyway. What kind of a vile, savage animal would consume such a thing?
Worst of all, I'm going to refill that jug with new tea, put that septic mass of microbes back on top of it and repeat this process in a week. How depraved!
Any others here who engage in this awful practice?
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if the tea fermented without the presence of oxygen, that would be different
Quote: odiousgambitbacteria that would spoil tea would not like your tissues, but might leave behind toxinsQuote: AutomaticMonkeyTea, sweetened tea, but it rotted! Eww!
It looks like a gelatinous mass of rotting deli meat on top of it. I fished it out to get a closer look...
How disgusting! But... I'm going to drink the tea anyway. What kind of a vile, savage animal would consume such a thing?
Worst of all, I'm going to refill that jug with new tea, put that septic mass of microbes back on top of it and repeat this process in a week. How depraved!
Any others here who engage in this awful practice?
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if the tea fermented without the presence of oxygen, that would be different
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Oh yes, it's a very low oxygen environment. You start off with boiling tea, so it starts out sterile and deoxygenated, and that SCOBY acts as a cap which seals off the surface. There's also some salt in there, and with the salt plus acidity of tea plus low oxygen there really aren't any pathogens that check all the boxes and will thrive in the fermenting process.
I've been growing that same SCOBY for a few years and it's traveled across the county with me. My pet germs. Mostly Bacillus coagulans and ordinary edible yeast in a symbiotic matrix. When you consume it all the time you no longer get gas nor stink the bathroom because it competes with and replaces the bacteria that have those effects.


Quote: DRichToday I consumed about a pound of shelled pistachios and feel miserable. I always eat way to many.
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Why do it when you can overdo it.
