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billryan
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January 16th, 2019 at 8:28:56 AM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

Really? So dealer has a 2 thru 6 up card and the player should assume a total of ten.
So then they will hit all their 12 through 16s ,well that's wrong.Oh and they better not double their 9 or 10 against any upcard since u assume a total of 10.
We all know that assuming a 10 in the hole isn't correct but for a total novice it sends them in somewhat the right direction.
Obviously if they have any interest they can learn basic strategy or at least simplified basic.



I dont get it either. Obviously ZK must be right, as he is infallible but his explanation is weak.
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January 16th, 2019 at 9:15:12 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

I dont get it either. Obviously ZK must be right, as he is infallible but his explanation is weak.


Right,his method would have you misplaying most every hand,but what do we know?
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January 16th, 2019 at 9:20:53 AM permalink
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January 16th, 2019 at 10:54:03 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

I dont get it either. Obviously ZK must be right, as he is infallible but his explanation is weak.



I think, when the player doesn't lose immediately, the average sum of the dealer's first two cards is 14.4
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January 16th, 2019 at 10:58:13 AM permalink
Quote: Dalex64

I think, when the player doesn't lose immediately, the average sum of the dealer's first two cards is 14.4



And yet the bestest blackjack player ever says differently.
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January 16th, 2019 at 12:02:30 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

And yet the bestest blackjack player ever says differently.



I already explained it. It was in reference to someome learning basic strategy. The 'always assume a 10' quick way of learning basic strategy should actually be to 'assume a total of 10'. Semantics, but that logic makes much more sense than assuming a 10 value card is underneath when there are 2x the amount of other denomiations in the pack. Has nothing to do with using that logic to mathematically play your hand.

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January 16th, 2019 at 12:34:06 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

I already explained it. It was in reference to someome learning basic strategy. The 'always assume a 10' quick way of learning basic strategy should actually be to 'assume a total of 10'. Semantics, but that logic makes much more sense than assuming a 10 value card is underneath when there are 2x the amount of other denomiations in the pack. Has nothing to do with using that logic to mathematically play your hand.

And yes im still the best. Thanks.




You are sprouting nonsense.
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January 16th, 2019 at 12:57:06 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

You are sprouting nonsense.



I thought you had that department covered. ;-)
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January 16th, 2019 at 1:35:59 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

You are sprouting nonsense.



I think I see it.

What he really means to say is to assume a VALUE of 10, not just literally a 10 card - excluding a jack, queen, or king.
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January 16th, 2019 at 1:45:37 PM permalink
No, he says that there are twice as many non-ten cards in the deck. Four ranks have a value of ten, nine ranks don't.

He is saying it is twice as likely that the card will not be a ten value than it will. That's true but not where he stops. He says it is better to assume the dealer will have a total of ten. For that to happen, the hole card can only be one of thirteen ranks. Besides which the roughly one third of the time you get a ten value card, his advice makes even less sense.


Here is a question for the math enabled amongst us. Assuming an infinite deck, what are the chances a three card hand will not include a ten value?
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