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Quote: WizardWhat color is key lime pie supposed to be?
Pale yellow, almost white.
Obviously they add food coloring at some locations. Assuming they don't add that, it seems to be a light yellow color similar to custard.Quote: WizardWhat color is key lime pie supposed to be?
Quote: NathanYuck. The Florida Keys! Too far away for me!
I was in Miami on Monday and had Key Lime pie.
Quote: DRichI was in Miami on Monday and had Key Lime pie.
Hey, it just really dawned on me that Key West supposedly has some of the best Key Lime pie! Get it? Key West and Key Lime pie. ;)
Quote: gamerfreakBahama Breeze.
I went to Bahama Breeze as a family celebration a long time ago and wasn't really impressed and the Filet Mignon was kind of dry and didn't even taste that good(Only like 1 bite actually tasted decent) and I spent like $50 for a meal I didn't even enjoy all that much! Insert crying Emoji face. :( I guess the frown emoticon will have to do.
Quote: billryanI'm pretty sure the chain is called Perkins. Family place with okay good but great pies.
Lol.
Perkins originated in Minneapolis, MN. Might have been 1950s. Long before Dennys, as a chain. They were first known for good steaks, great pancakes, and bottomless fresh coffee. Later they added the Granny's omelet (killer) and the BBQ bacon cheeseburger as premium menu items.
I worked 2 years graveyard at Corporate store #1 in the early 80s when it was still great. You never saw such a clean place, and we had all the dogmeat chores on graveyard. How many restaurants scrub the freaking grout by hand once a week? They (we) did.
All the coffee pots were bottomless, and we had to empty and refill them every hour to ensure they were fresh. They were urn to thermos, no hot plates to burn on. And every cup and every thermos pot got bleached once a week, minimum, though they all went through a dishwasher every use anyway.
The pie thing came after my time, though we had great desserts in a big refrigerated glass cylinder, right after the podium so people would stop and drool. Also a very well-stocked salad bar.
Anyway, that was Minnesota nice 24/7, not Philly food. But they've cut their quality a lot since then, too. I would guess the pies are now the best quality thing they sell.
I see there is one in Bullhead. I can't say I've ever noticed it.
Quote: billryanI only knew four locations, and had no idea they are as big as they are. I'd eat in one every few years.
I see there is one in Bullhead. I can't say I've ever noticed it.
Kind of gets lost amid all the abandoned storefronts, trailers and meth labs in Bullhead.
Along with all the confusion over what time it is there compared to Laughlin.
Quote: beachbumbabs
All the coffee pots were bottomless, and we had to empty and refill them every hour to ensure they were fresh. They were urn to thermos, no hot plates to burn on. And every cup and every thermos pot got bleached once a week, minimum, though they all went through a dishwasher every use anyway.
The pie thing came after my time, though we had great desserts in a big refrigerated glass cylinder, right after the podium so people would stop and drool. Also a very well-stocked salad bar.
Anyway, that was Minnesota nice 24/7, not Philly food. But they've cut their quality a lot since then, too. I would guess the pies are now the best quality thing they sell.
There are a bunch of Perkins' near me. The coffee pots remain bottomless and they continue to deliver the coffee the same way.
I don't know what to say about the pies, I guess they're okay. Pie is fine. I probably wouldn't know a decent pie, from a good pie for a great pie...I'm not really big on sweets.
They have no salad bar anymore that I have seen, at least not the three or four Perkins locations I have visited. Personally, I think the breakfast stuff is the best thing on the menu, mainly because it's really hard to foul up breakfast. The Perkins in West Virginia, at least the ones I have been to, now have a West Virginia VLT parlor in them.
If you were playing in the one in Wheeling, beverages were already free and you got half-price off of the entire regular menu. They also had a special menu with steep discounts. For example, a burger and fries was $2.00 and the drink was already free. I don't know if they still have it or not because I haven't availed myself of that deal in about two years, nor have I been into Perkins' parlor. The key is just to go in there and slow play a nickel at a time on Keno, or something. You lose about a dollar, pay $2.00 for the burger and fries and that's your whole tab. You can just give the lady a $10 and tell her to keep it, 400% tip!
To be clear, I was at Perkins as recently as last night; (bought my daughter dessert after roller skating) I just haven't been to the parlor part in a few years.
Quote: NathanHey, it just really dawned on me that Key West supposedly has some of the best Key Lime pie! Get it? Key West and Key Lime pie. ;)
I'm there now. Had KLP last night. Not even close to as good as my ex makes. She actually sold hers to a local Buffalo restaurant for a while.
I totally disagree with you Nathan about Gillum. He will be terrible for Florida in my opinion. Florida should want rich retiring northerners like me to want to retire there. Gillum makes that a no go. Punishing success is not the answer.
That being said, if you believe that you like him more than the other candidate, then get out and vote for him!
VLTs are so profitable I think everybody there has them.
Pies, chocolate, beer and candy are the major food groups of life.
Quote: BozKind of gets lost amid all the abandoned storefronts, trailers and meth labs in Bullhead.
What can be done to revive the meth trade in bullhead. In the seventies they told me to buy land there. They didn't say anything about the Geritol trade in Laughlin or the Bikers in Bullhead. They said casinos would boom, not rust.
Quote: FleaStiffNot enough limes in the Keys to make a tenth of those key lime pies.
Key Limes are just a type of lime, I don’t think they even originated in Florida.
Valencia oranges don’t come from Valencia either.
Quote: FleaStiffI hope you enjoyed your roller skating.
VLTs are so profitable I think everybody there has them.
Pies, chocolate, beer and candy are the major food groups of life.
The laundromats don't have VLT's, not that I have checked a lot of them. I just make a habit of looking for the, "West Virginia Lottery Products Available Here," sign anytime I happen to be in a new place and see a laundromat sign. This fact has always baffled me because I can't think of a place it would make more sense to put one than a laundromat. You have people there otherwise with nothing to do but watch their clothes wash and dry for two hours...no way 50% of them wouldn't gamble.
Quote: Mission146The laundromats don't have VLT's, not that I have checked a lot of them. I just make a habit of looking for the, "West Virginia Lottery Products Available Here," sign anytime I happen to be in a new place and see a laundromat sign. This fact has always baffled me because I can't think of a place it would make more sense to put one than a laundromat. You have people there otherwise with nothing to do but watch their clothes wash and dry for two hours...no way 50% of them wouldn't gamble.
Laundromats are usually unattended by any staff, correct?
I’m pretty sure lottery terminals in nearly every state require an attendant. Lottery retailers are generally required to cash out tickets, and the terminals malfunction all the time.
Ofcourse they did not originate from Florida but they are not hardy enough to survive Buffalo nor the commercial harvesting that would be used there. Skin is too thin and fruit is too pale for Buffalo growing. Lime pie perhaps but not key lime pie.Quote: gamerfreakKey Limes are just a type of lime, I don’t think they even originated in Florida..
Next thing you will try to tell me is thatQuote: gamerfreakValencia oranges don’t come from Valencia either.
Brussel sprouts don't come from Brussels or that French toast ain't French. You really expect me to believe you
Quote: FleaStiffNext thing you will try to tell me is that
Brussel sprouts don't come from Brussels or that French toast ain't French. You really expect me to believe you
Or that there's no pork in hamburger or no fido in a hot dog.
Preposterous.
But tell me again, yes or no for Amendment 3. I am still confused on what vote to choose for Amendment 3. Once again, I am in line right now. Right now. Right now. Right now. ;)
I doubt many people here, outside of those living in Florida know what Amendment 3 is.
Quote: billryanFollow your heart.
I doubt many people here, outside of those living in Florida know what Amendment 3 is.
Good point. :) Off to Google while I am still in line but have my empty ballot folder. :)
Quote: NathanJust filled out my ballot. :) I voted NO on Amendment 3(I hope it does not turn out to be a huge mistake)and yes for Andrew Gillum. :) I voted for Bill Nelson for Governor. The alternative was Rick Scott. Shudder. Rick Scott gives me the creeps. He looks just as slimy as a snake who just slithered through a black Texas oil spill. I just don't like him.
Ok, Nathan. For what it's worth, I voted exactly the same as you on all three of those. Thanks for taking the time to go vote!
Quote: beachbumbabsOk, Nathan. For what it's worth, I voted exactly the same as you on all three of those. Thanks for taking the time to go vote!
I knew you 2 would see eye to eye eventually.😀😀😀
Quote: BozI knew you 2 would see eye to eye eventually.😀😀😀
Yeah...you continue to confuse the issue of me doing a mod job on here with my personal feelings. I don't claim to be Nathan's friend, but I'm also not her enemy.
Years ago, her biggest nemesis killed himself by stabbing himself in the back a dozen times. So strong was their loyalty to him, that most of his friends copied him. One of them even managed to do it while handcuffed.
Quote: beachbumbabsOk, Nathan. For what it's worth, I voted exactly the same as you on all three of those. Thanks for taking the time to go vote!
:) It's good we voted for the same exact things. And you are welcome for thanking me for voting.. :) Thank you too for voting! :)
I would hire Kentry, Nathan, Tasha and Karen so I really only had deal with one person. ;)Quote: NathanIf you had $10,000 in illegally gained funds and wanted to gamble in a Casino you'd find 9 other people to give $1,000 to everyone in the group and all plan to come in separate, ignore each other and then leave at separate times as to avoid Casino suspicion, right? This is from my post theories on another thread but I decided to come to my Corner as to avoid hijacking that thread. I personally think a Casino Employee/Manager/Owner would be suspicious of one guy having $10,000 but not suspicious of 10 different people having $1,000 each. Especially if they supposedly don't know each other.
Quote: AxelWolfI would hire Kentry, Nathan, Tasha and Karen so I really only had deal with one person. ;)
But I am not Kentry! Really honestly! And technically, I am no longer Tasha since I have been permanently banned from that website.
Quote: beachbumbabsYeah...you continue to confuse the issue of me doing a mod job on here with my personal feelings. I don't claim to be Nathan's friend, but I'm also not her enemy.
Total wrong take on my post, but I will say politics make Strange Bedfellows.
And Gillum is already bringing Florida residents together after working for months to divide them.
Quote: NathanIf you had $10,000 in illegally gained funds and wanted to gamble in a Casino you'd find 9 other people to give $1,000 to everyone in the group and all plan to come in separate, ignore each other and then leave at separate times as to avoid Casino suspicion, right? T
It would be easier for you to bring a grand to the same casino on ten different days, or you could bring a grand to ten different casinos one after the other.
Nobody would be suspicious about that, and it's easier and less risky than enlisting other confederates to your scheme.
deja vuQuote: MrVIt would be easier for you to bring a grand to the same casino on ten different days, or you could bring a grand to ten different casinos one after the other.
Nobody would be suspicious about that, and it's easier and less risky than enlisting other confederates to your scheme.
Quote: NathanMy hypothetical scenario is that each of the 10 people have illegally gained money($1,000 each person, so a lot of $10,000. ) They make a plan before even going anywhere near the Casino not to come in and leave at separate times and not to interact with each other at all, let's say at a bar. By the time they are each in the Casino they have entered at separate times and never interacted with each each other and all left at separate times so that the Casino won't question the money. If you are a Casino Employee/Manager/Owner who draws your suspicion? The one guy who has $10,000 or the guy who has $1,000? I know my suspicion would be drawn to the one with $10,000 and not the one with only $1,000.
AxelWolf Joined: Oct 10, 2012Threads: 122Posts: 14649November 4th, 2018 at 9:30:09 PMpermalink
It's wonderful you have a plan. Having a good plan is usually a good thing.
Now please tell me what your plan is accomplishing and how it's helping you launder the money. And again, I'm not talking about washing money.
Your plan would work for washing money, however, you wouldn't need 10 people to go in all at once or one place. You wouldn't need to have some big meet up at a bar prior. One person could just go to 10 different casinos in one day or 10 casinos in 10 days or some variation of that. IMO having 10 people would be way too many people that you would have to worry about f-ing something up or ratting you out. I think I have to give your hypothetical plan an actual F.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/trip-reports/31845-drake-triggers-a-casino/
Wonderful.Quote: NathanOkay okay, asking 9 other people to share the illegally gained $10,000 by $1,000 each and doing some Ocean's 8/9/10/11/12/whatever type of shtick (We come and leave at separate times and ignore each other throughout the entire session) is some convoluted shtick when like Axle Wolf and Mr. V said,"One guy just going to 10 different Casinos with $1000 at each/going to the same Casino 10 different days with $1,000 each would be much simpler and better." ;)
Aside from washing money . You still didn't explain (anything) what that would accomplish. ?????
One casino or ten casinos, one person or ten people, one day or 10.days. Explain how this helps launder money.
If you don't know, just say so and we can move on and further the conversation.
Quote: AxelWolfWonderful.
Aside from washing money . You still didn't explain (anything) what that would accomplish. ?????
One casino or ten casinos, one person or ten people, one day or 10.days. Explain how this helps launder money.
If you don't know, just say so and we can move on and further the conversation
Isn't that what YOU said? 10 days at $1,000 each day or 10 different Casinos in the same day with $1,000 each is better than $1,000 each for 10 people who all come in and leave separately and ignore each other the entire trip?
A few respondents have discussed the different ways of playing 10,000, but none of them have indicated how any of the schemes help 'launder' the original 10,000. Your original post said it was 'ilegal money', so we might reasonably assume that the intent was to render it 'legal' by laundering it. No-one has helped on that point.Quote: NathanIsn't that what YOU said? 10 days at $1,000 each day or 10 different Casinos in the same day with $1,000 each is better than $1,000 each for 10 people who all come in and leave separately and ignore each other the entire trip?
To launder the money is to generate a reasonable or provable source for the money. For example, one could use the cash to buy some antiques at a garage sale and then sell them on ebay for $10,000 and declare and pay any tax due on profits. Then when the feds or the IRS come and ask where you got nearly $10,000 from, you say 'I bought some junk for $100 cash and lookee here at how I sold them for a big profit on ebay... Lookee here at my ebay logs and at the taxes that I paid on my sale profits.' Or maybe you play through the $10k at a casino and get a few hand pays. That generates a paper trail for some or all of what you bring out of the casino. It's a feeble trail and relies on there being no evidence what you staked but good evidence of 'winnings'. I don't know if it's still possible, but it used to be that criminals would buy up winning betting slips at horse races. Pay the true winner a bunch of cash for his winning slip. then cash it in, but keeping paper evidence of the win. Hey presto... look Mr Fed: I'm a successful gambler and my money was made honestly.
Now.... Was your question about money laundering, or not?
Quote: OnceDearA few respondents have discussed the different ways of playing 10,000, but none of them have indicated how any of the schemes help 'launder' the original 10,000. Your original post said it was 'ilegal money', so we might reasonably assume that the intent was to render it 'legal' by laundering it. No-one has helped on that point.
To launder the money is to generate a reasonable or provable source for the money. For example, one could use the cash to buy some antiques at a garage sale and then sell them on ebay for $10,000 and declare and pay any tax due on profits. Then when the feds or the IRS come and ask where you got nearly $10,000 from, you say 'I bought some junk for $100 cash and lookee here at how I sold them for a big profit on ebay... Lookee here at my ebay logs and at the taxes that I paid on my sale profits.' Or maybe you play through the $10k at a casino and get a few hand pays. That generates a paper trail for some or all of what you bring out of the casino. It's a feeble trail and relies on there being no evidence what you staked but good evidence of 'winnings'. I don't know if it's still possible, but it used to be that criminals would buy up winning betting slips at horse races. Pay the true winner a bunch of cash for his winning slip. then cash it in, but keeping paper evidence of the win. Hey presto... look Mr Fed: I'm a successful gambler and my money was made honestly.
Now.... Was your question about money laundering, or not?
Very good in detail follow up to my question. :) As to the final part of your post, it wasn't really so much about money laundering per se, but someone on the other post said something like,"Casino workers have to do a CTR report for $10,000 or more," and I replied something like,"Then you'd have a guy who has $10,000 illegally getting 9 other people to come into the Casino with $1,000 each (Coming and leaving separate times and ignoring each other throughout the entire trip) as to avoid the CTR report." Then the posters were like,"Wouldn't it be better for one guy to go to 10 different Casinos with $1000 each(How many people go to 10 different Casinos in one day? Seems far-fetched, :/ or go to the same Casino 10 different days with $1,000 each day(This one seems realistic. :). I actually saw the potential danger of hijacking the other post, so I decided to keep talking about it in this thread instead. :) What I meant was people who will try to avoid getting caught having illegal funds by playing with a base bankroll of $1,000. $10,000 triggers a CTR, so big trouble for a guy who got it illegally, so $1,000 would fly under the radar.
A zillion twenty dollar bills would indicate drug sales at street level but a casino statement indicates merely a source of iincome that is legitimate.
Quote: FleaStiffSometimes what is being 'laundered' is not the money but its 'state'.
A zillion twenty dollar bills would indicate drug sales at street level but a casino statement indicates merely a source of iincome that is legitimate.
I guess that's a bit similar to what Once Dear was saying about people taking illegally gained funds and turning it legal by buying something cheap with the funds and then selling it in eBay for more money and then saying to the FBI, look, I bought this ugly looking plate for $8(From the illegal money), and it turned out to be from 1800 and one of only 5 in the whole world. I sold it for $8,0000 on eBay.
(Showing both receipts).
Quote: Nathan,"Casino workers have to do a CTR report for $10,000 or more," and I replied something like,"Then you'd have a guy who has $10,000 illegally getting 9 other people to come into the Casino with $1,000 each (Coming and leaving separate times and ignoring each other throughout the entire trip) as to avoid the CTR report."... $10,000 triggers a CTR, so big trouble for a guy who got it illegally, so $1,000 would fly under the radar.
This makes no sense! If you have $10,000 illegally, why would you be taking it and wagering it in a casino? If you keep it in your pocket and stay home, no CTR is triggered! If you let 10 stooges wager $1,000 each, you get no pleasure from it, so what's the point?
What is the point of this sub-thread?
No. No. No. NO. You just don't get it. You don't use the money to make a trading profit. You buy $10,000 worth of vauable stuff, cash in hand and undocumented. You buy $100 dollars of crap, with maybe a receipt. Then you sell the $10,000 valuable stuff. Later, you can show that you bought some crap for $100, sold it for $10,000 and may even declare the profit and pay tax on it. If challenged, you say it was the same crap bought for $100 and sold for $10,000.Quote: NathanI guess that's a bit similar to what Once Dear was saying about people taking illegally gained funds and turning it legal by buying something cheap with the funds and then selling it in eBay for more money and then saying to the FBI, look, I bought this ugly looking plate for $8(From the illegal money), and it turned out to be from 1800 and one of only 5 in the whole world. I sold it for $8,0000 on eBay.
(Showing both receipts).
The fool that sold you the good stuff if left struggling to show where he got $10,000 of dirty cash ( if anyone ever asks ). You've left him as the fall guy.
Or, you could move to a country where the authorities keep their nose out.... Or become a politician, where money laundering is easy on an industrial scale.
Quote: OnceDearThis makes no sense! If you have $10,000 illegally, why would you be taking it and wagering it in a casino? If you keep it in your pocket and stay home, no CTR is triggered! If you let 10 stooges wager $1,000 each, you get no pleasure from it, so what's the point?
What is the point of this sub-thread?
In my job we had a training where we learned of money laundering and structuring and that CTR post reminded me of our training(Hence one person would just get 9 other people to split the $10,000 to avoid the CTR), and the replies talking about how convoluted that would be. ;)
