To be fair, she keeps on asking and she seems to really want to know. I have communicated with her privately and I think she knows I'm not trying to be mean, nor do I dislike her( just annoyed at times). I'm just not going to treat her with kid gloves. This isn't some puppy dog chat group, it can get rough around here.Quote: gordonm888First, I like Nathan's posts (generally, lol) and I think she makes our forum a richer, better place.
She is a lot more self-aware than 99% of the people who post on this forum. She has an odd way of looking at things that is often different than how I look at things - but that is all part of Life's Rich Pageant. At her worst, she is at least interesting. She is not a one-trick-pony like some of the WOV forumites.
IMO, she seems far more tolerant of the negative criticism being directed at her by Axel and others than . . . Axel and others are when they are negatively criticized. And, such tolerance is a virtue.
We don't have a lot of females on this forum (though honestly, who knows? we can't tell gender reliably.) Nathan is not a math stud like MustangSally and she's not a Babs (who is tough-minded and duty-driven), so she's different. I hope she survives the rough-and-tumble of our often-misanthropic forum and stays with us.
Perhaps you should call out some other's around here, since I have seen a few brutal comments.
If Nathan ever made her way to Vegas or I'm ever in her neck of the woods I would be more than happy to treat her to a meal.
I remember me and Nareed used to go at it on the forum, but when she came to town we hung out a bit and had fun.
Gordon.... why do you think Mustang Sally is female? I thought the name MustangSally is a reference to a song or something?
People can choose to read or not read your topics. They can choose to block your content if they wish.
You do you.
ZCore13
Quote: SOOPOOWe don't know that Nathan is female. We don't know that unless someone has met him or her we are just taking the poster's word. With the deceit that was the initial entry of Nathan, why would you think that recent posts are an accurate portrayal? The only thing we know about Nathan is that he/she either lied earlier or is lying now. People earlier (year's ago) questioned if I was who I say I am, I used people I actually met on the forum (Wiz, Axel, BBB) to vouch for me. Nathan has had multiple opportunities to present some evidence to mods (BBB, Wiz, Mission in the day, Face) to provide some evidence that she is who she says she is. No meet up. No photo. Nothing other than the stream of bizarre posts.....
Gordon.... why do you think Mustang Sally is female? I thought the name MustangSally is a reference to a song or something?
Soopoo
One of the earliest controversial threads involving Nathan was a bet and meet up with WON
Many pages of WON saying Nathan didnt show up just a woman (with a shopping bag if i remember) and then Nathan admitting that was her
I guess WON who I am sure is reading this can create a quick sock puppet account to vouch :)
EDIT: of course if your claim is even as a woman she might still be a trannie then you will probably need Nathan to physically show her private junk. And yku are probably crap outta luck with that one
Quote: SOOPOOGordon.... why do you think Mustang Sally is female? I thought the name MustangSally is a reference to a song or something?
OMG, you are correct. I was making an assumption and I certainly apologize to Mustang Sally or anyone else if I have offended them.
Axel: Your comments above are very fair and well-stated. I only singled out you and your criticisms (and did not name others) because
1. I was lazy and didn't want to scroll up further and see who else had criticized her.
2. Your comments did impress me as being the most blunt and unfriendly.
I don't have any problem with you and your posts. My primary intention was simply to express my own, somewhat different, opinion about Nathan's posts.
Quote: SOOPOOWe don't know that Nathan is female. We don't know that unless someone has met him or her we are just taking the poster's word. With the deceit that was the initial entry of Nathan, why would you think that recent posts are an accurate portrayal? The only thing we know about Nathan is that he/she either lied earlier or is lying now. People earlier (year's ago) questioned if I was who I say I am, I used people I actually met on the forum (Wiz, Axel, BBB) to vouch for me. Nathan has had multiple opportunities to present some evidence to mods (BBB, Wiz, Mission in the day, Face) to provide some evidence that she is who she says she is. No meet up. No photo. Nothing other than the stream of bizarre posts.....
This is not a hook-up site and it really doesn't matter to me whether any member is female, male, transgender or a battery- operated-boyfriend (um... EvenBob?) However, because the pronouns "he" and "she" are gender-specific, we do have to make assumptions and try to get it right when we refer to each other, just as a courtesy.
Since Nathan says she is a female, than I am happy to accept that and use the pronoun 'she.' If anyone on this forum is misrepresenting their gender, that's also okay with me. No prob.
Quote: SOOPOONathan has had multiple opportunities to present some evidence to mods (BBB, Wiz, Mission in the day, Face) to provide some evidence that she is who she says she is. No meet up. No photo. Nothing other than the stream of bizarre posts.....
I don't think anyone feels any obligation to "present some evidence to mods" about their gender. And meetups, photos? Really?
Perhaps one of the mods wants to give us their cell phone number so we can all text them photos of our genitalia? Maybe they could compile a bound photo album and offer it as an award for one of the WOV contests.
Quote: gordonm888This is not a hook-up site and it really doesn't matter to me whether any member is female, male, transgender or a battery- operated-boyfriend (um... EvenBob?) However, because the pronouns "he" and "she" are gender-specific, we do have to make assumptions and try to get it right when we refer to each other, just as a courtesy.
Since Nathan says she is a female, than I am happy to accept that and use the pronoun 'she.' If anyone on this forum is misrepresenting their gender, that's also okay with me. No prob.
I don't think anyone feels any obligation to "present some evidence to mods" about their gender. And meetups, photos? Really?
Perhaps one of the mods wants to give us their cell phone number so we can all text them photos of our genitalia? Maybe they could compile a bound photo album and offer it as an award for one of the WOV contests.
Ummm. Perhaps not. Thanks anyway. I think.
As to Mustang Sally, I have never met her, but she is the niece of another member and has a person who she refers to as her husband, and otherwise has consistently presented herself as female in every way it matters to this forum. So she is female.
I extend the same courtesy to Nathan, though she has given much cause to doubt any details like that.
We do have several other females who participate, though only occasionally, so it's not completely lopsided. Just feels like it sometimes.
Quote: beachbumbabsUmmm. Perhaps not. Thanks anyway. I think.
As to Mustang Sally, I have never met her, but she is the niece of another member and has a person who she refers to as her husband, and otherwise has consistently presented herself as female in every way it matters to this forum. So she is female.
I extend the same courtesy to Nathan, though she has given much cause to doubt any details like that.
We do have several other females who participate, though only occasionally, so it's not completely lopsided. Just feels like it sometimes.
As you know, my SOOPOO moniker often has new posters think I am female. But if I am female I must be the ugliest looking gal on the planet..... I really meant no disrespect to MustangSally, clearly one of the most valuable posters here. I never paid much attention, but BBB, mentioning you have a husband in NO WAY implies you are a female! The fact that you know her is good enough for me though! My point is that Nathan, if female, intentionally mislead the forum. So I question his/her motives in being here. And the fact that the only 'meeting' with a member here was WoN is also quite coincidental, I am sure......
We have wasted a lot of electrons on this issue!
IIRC Mustang Sally talks about having a husband, wears Pink Shoes with stretchy pants. I think there have been many other clues that she is female, if not, I have certainly been fooled.Quote: gordonm888OMG, you are correct. I was making an assumption and I certainly apologize to Mustang Sally or anyone else if I have offended them.
Axel: Your comments above are very fair and well-stated. I only singled out you and your criticisms (and did not name others) because
1. I was lazy and didn't want to scroll up further and see who else had criticized her.
2. Your comments did impress me as being the most blunt and unfriendly.
I don't have any problem with you and your posts. My primary intention was simply to express my own, somewhat different, opinion about Nathan's posts.
Yes, I have been blunt with Nathan since she keeps asking. It's hard to be blunt truthful and remain friendly in this situation.
I certainly don't want her to leave the forum or anything like that.
Whatever the case, I don't think Nathan will ever obtain the persona she seems to be yearning for.
#itsallgood
Quote: AxelWolfIIRC Mustang Sally talks about having a husband, wears Pink Shoes with stretchy pants.
Add in a man bun and that describes 20% of the male millenials I see on Saturday nights.
ZCore13
Quote: AxelWolf
IIRC Mustang Sally talks about having a husband, wears Pink Shoes with stretchy pants.
Quote: Zcore13Add in a man bun and that describes 20% of the male millenials I see on Saturday nights.
You've gotta stop frequenting gay bars.