Taking care of pets
A tired dog is a very good dog.
Someone dropped this adorable bundle of fuzz off at the pound not once, but twice. I have no clue why, she was super well behaved from the moment we got her.
Such a good gentle doggy and a cute ferret.
Stop animal prison rape
Quote: AxelWolfThis melts my heart whenever I see it.
Such a good gentle doggy and a cute ferret.
WTF..... Axel is getting soft! I thought for sure that a video coming from Ax would have the dog eating the ferret by the end of the video... I was waiting for it. You actually has a heart?
That's because they never lie after they play craps.Quote: WatchMeWinQuote: AxelWolfThis melts my heart whenever I see it.
Such a good gentle doggy and a cute ferret.
WTF..... Axel is getting soft! I thought for sure that a video coming from Ax would have the dog eating the ferret by the end of the video... I was waiting for it. You actually has a heart?
Quote: RogerKintGentle doggies are dweebs
Stop animal prison rape
That’s blink 182, right?
Good one. (-:Quote: billryanHow many ferrets, I mean takes, did that video take?
Had the dog at the river near a boat ramp once. It is hard to explain but she would do this dive thing into the water. I am there just MYOB and some guy is there with a German Shorthair, and I can tell he is a hunter trying to train it for hunting. I'm paying them no real mind except to be situationally aware there is another dog around. I am not all that worried on my end as this Lab was so focused that WWIII could break out over there and she would just yelp for me to throw the stick.
Well, the Shorthair wants no part of the water. Guy is coaching his young daughter to coax it in. Meanwhile here I am with a dog I can't keep out. He looks over and says, "Come on, you can do it, look at that dog!" to his dog.
After a minute of so I can *feel* this guy's mind saying, "holy cow, I gotta get a closer look at this!" He comes over and we chat. Nice guy, I forget exactly what we talked about but I got this fairly often. My answer was stock, "what can I tell ya, the dog loves the water?"
Yes, Labs like the water, but not like this one did.
I had a cat that might have been lost but probably was simply turned loose to fend for herself. Her rescuer had too many dogs to have a cat in her house or yard so I got a long term cat sitting gig and the cat became my primary care provider since she seemed to have already learned what too much and too little blood sugar meant in a human. I often wish I were worthy of having pets.
Quote: AZDuffmanI totally love dogs, to the point I disowned the Steelers literally the minute they signed Vick.
Thanks for this, I felt the same way.
Quote: bobbartopThanks for this, I felt the same way.
People tell me "but he is gone." To me it was like a LT GF cheated on me. It is never the same after. And they showed who they are. I discovered:
1. I like dogs more than football
2. You would be amazed how much else there is to do on a Sunday
Yeah, I know I may be naive, and this could all be an act. For all I know, when his court ordered community service was up, he may have gone back to his old ways. He hasn't been in the news, so who knows? But, you cannot deny that he did some tangible good in the HSUS's fight against dog fighting.
If there is any indication that he is ever involved again in his former activities, I will be right there next to you on the Anti-Vick bandwagon. But for now, as I have no evidence to the contrary, I will choose to believe he has changed. If that just makes me an optimistic fool, I can live with that.
http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/dogfighting/qa/vick_faq.html
I am a dog owner, and like I said, his involvement in dog fighting was reprehensible and indefensible. But was it unforgivable?
Quote: JoemanI am not going to defend what Vick did, mainly because it was indefensible. But, by all accounts, he was the proverbial "changed man" after prison. He worked with the Humane Society to help stop dog fighting in the inner cities, and lobbied Congress for tougher dog fighting laws. Do you still hold it against him even though he is now (or was) an agent for preventing/eliminating dog fighting?
Yes, I still hold it against him. This was not some 20 year old at one dog fight. This was a grown man who ran a dogfighting ring. Everyone has their line and standards. How about if Jerry Sandusky was released and worked against sexual abuse of young boys? Walter White had he lived and worked against meth addiction? (I know he is fake, just roll with it.)
What really irks me is that the NFL told Limbaugh not to even bother applying as a minority partner as he was "divisive" and they wanted to protect their image. Then Vick gets a mere 4 game suspension!
Quote:Yeah, I know I may be naive, and this could all be an act. For all I know, when his court ordered community service was up, he may have gone back to his old ways. He hasn't been in the news, so who knows? But, you cannot deny that he did some tangible good in the HSUS's fight against dog fighting.
I am a dog owner, and like I said, his involvement in dog fighting was reprehensible and indefensible. But was it unforgivable?
Each his own. You said your peace, I said mine. Discuss if you like.
Fair enough.Quote: AZDuffmanYes, I still hold it against him. This was not some 20 year old at one dog fight. This was a grown man who ran a dogfighting ring. Everyone has their line and standards.
First, I think Sandusky's crimes were magnitudes worse then Vick's. But, if he was released (Wikipedia says his earliest parole eligibility will be when he is 98), and used the time he had left on this earth to prevent further abuse, I would applaud his efforts. But I take your point. I still wouldn't let him near my kid.Quote:How about if Jerry Sandusky was released and worked against sexual abuse of young boys?
Why do I feel like I'm the only person in this country under 50 who has never seen an episode of Breaking Bad? Maybe I should take a weekend and binge!Quote:Walter White had he lived and worked against meth addiction? (I know he is fake, just roll with it.)
Quote: Joeman
First, I think Sandusky's crimes were magnitudes worse then Vick's. But, if he was released (Wikipedia says his earliest parole eligibility will be when he is 98), and used the time he had left on this earth to prevent further abuse, I would applaud his efforts. But I take your point. I still wouldn't let him near my kid.
Yes, I just used him as an example. He is one of the most awful human beings out there.
Quote:Why do I feel like I'm the only person in this country under 50 who has never seen an episode of Breaking Bad? Maybe I should take a weekend and binge!
Yes, you should.
Loves to run, fight the neighborhood dogs, go fishing, and eat all the woodland feces he can find. Also, he's really good at finding woodland feces.
Quote: FaceRhodesian Ridgeback. Reckon I tell him I'm going to cut his f#$%ing head off minimum 5 times a day. The most willfully defiant being I have ever run across. Sumbish chased down an adult rabbit just yesterday and had from the shoulder up gone before I got to him. About as fast as lightning and equal as easy to catch.
Loves to run, fight the neighborhood dogs, go fishing, and eat all the woodland feces he can find. Also, he's really good at finding woodland feces.
I feel your pain....here is what the author E.B. White had to say about dachunds
Quote:Being the owner of dachshunds, to me a book on dog discipline becomes a volume of inspired humor. Every sentence is a riot. Some day, if I ever get a chance, I shall write a book, or warning, on the character and temperament of the dachshund and why he can't be trained and shouldn't be. I would rather train a striped zebra to balance an Indian club than induce a dachshund to heed my slightest command. When I address Fred I never have to raise either my voice or my hopes. He even disobeys me when I instruct him in something he wants to do.
Quote: BenjiexAny idea on how can I train my dog? Are there any device that can help train a dog?
What’s the problem?
Quote: BenjiexI have a 2-year-old Rotweiller and he is aggressive, keeps on barking, destroying the slippers and other things. In short, he can't be control and has a temper. I heard that some devices are used to train dogs but I do not have any idea what to use.
Our girl barked quite a bit, and we got a bark collar that senses when she barks and beeps/vibrates. It put an end to it immediately.
They make versions that have a remote control so you can trigger it manually as well.
She is also a really hard puller on the leash, and a choke collar helped that a good bit. She’s never been a chewer though.
You may also want to look into clicker training. You use a little clicker device and associate the noise with a treat. It takes a lot of time and patience, but eventually they perk right up and listen when they hear the click.
Quote: BenjiexI have a 2-year-old Rotweiller and he is aggressive, keeps on barking, destroying the slippers and other things. In short, he can't be control and has a temper. I heard that some devices are used to train dogs but I do not have any idea what to use.
First, you have to figure out what kind of dog he is.
I took a dog training course from this guy last month named Joel Silverman (Google him + dog training; he sells books, videos, and accessories on the website, very reasonable prices. I don't want to do an ad for him, so just look him up yourself, please). He divides dogs into categories by color.
They are motivated by different things. Some dogs like treats and respond well to those. Some like other things. It depends on what "color" they are what would be most effective.
Chances are, you're going to need a kennel to give him a safe space and USE it.
You're going to need a Martingale type collar to train him with. You'll need to correct the bad behavior firmly but not meanly while it's happening, using the collar. The best ones are part leather or nylon, part chain.
You're going to have to figure out what reward he needs when he gets it right. And spend 5 minutes a couple times a day, minimum, teaching him in VERY small steps how to please you .
If you use an e-collar, you'll need to do a lot of research on how to use it right or you'll ruin him. It should prompt him, not hurt him. It's not an instant, zap him tool and the problem is fixed. The key is that he cares what you want, and the e-collar is a reminder.
The main problem you have is likely that he's insecure and guarding you, and owning the house, when you should be in charge, and your things are his things at the moment. He needs boundaries and a boss, but not one that intimidates or hurts him, just one that masters him. Comes from trust.
Quote: JoemanFair enough.
First, I think Sandusky's crimes were magnitudes worse then Vick's. But, if he was released (Wikipedia says his earliest parole eligibility will be when he is 98), and used the time he had left on this earth to prevent further abuse, I would applaud his efforts. But I take your point. I still wouldn't let him near my kid.
Why do I feel like I'm the only person in this country under 50 who has never seen an episode of Breaking Bad? Maybe I should take a weekend and binge!
I guess it's the whole"I forgive you, but I want nothing to do with you," thing. Let's say I have a "Friend," steal $500 from my purse and go on gambling binges at local casinos. I am beyond pissed off and then she comes back a week later and admits that her stealing my money was nasty and reprehensible and gives me my $500 back. I forgive her but I no longer want anything to do with her.
Oh, about the Breaking Bad thing, I am in my 30's and have also never seen an episode of Breaking Bad. ;)
Quote: NathanI guess it's the whole"I forgive you, but I want nothing to do with you," thing. Let's say I have a "Friend," steal $500 from my purse and go on gambling binges at local casinos. I am beyond pissed off and then she comes back a week later and admits that her stealing my money was nasty and reprehensible and gives me my $500 back. I forgive her but I no longer want anything to do with her.
Oh, about the Breaking Bad thing, I am in my 30's and have also never seen an episode of Breaking Bad. ;)
I try to hang in with you and the detours you take, because sometimes we all do it, but what the hell does this have to do with pets? C'mon, Nathan. Quit the hijacking.
Quote: beachbumbabsI try to hang in with you and the detours you take, because sometimes we all do it, but what the hell does this have to do with pets? C'mon, Nathan. Quit the hijacking.
It was a response to someone saying if Jerry Sandusky did his time and decided to be an advocate against sexual abuse, he would applaud his change of heart but still wouldn't let him be around his kid.
Quote: NathanIt was a response to someone saying if Jerry Sandusky did his time and decided to be an advocate against sexual abuse, he would applaud his change of heart but still wouldn't let him be around his kid.
I can read , thanks.
He at least was contrasting Sandusky with Vicks, who had been brought up as an animal abuser.
You went past left field and into the parking lot. Try to stay in the game.
Quote: beachbumbabsI can read , thanks.
He at least was contrasting Sandusky with Vicks, who had been brought up as an animal abuser.
You went past left field and into the parking lot. Try to stay in the game.
Okay, you do have a good point. :)
Quote: BenjiexHello guys, just an update when I was searching online for a collar I saw these dog training collars, it says that it is one of the most useful tools used for training dogs. It is good to correct bad habits of a dog such as barking too much, digging, and chewing. it also says that a training collar can transform a misbehave dog into a well obedient dog. I heard other people who are against it and question the safety of this product, but, I think it is safe to use for both the dog and the trainer. What do you think about the training collar overall, will it help me train my dogs? I'm open for more suggestions, though.
A podcast I listen to the guy says one key is the dog should not connect you to the shock. Keep the trigger hidden, when the dog looks at you, be looking somewhere else.
I have heard mixed results with some against it. But those against are almost all female who think you are "being mean to the dog." As others said before, train yourself first, then train the dog.
I think your money is better spent on a crate, a correction collar like I discussed above, and a paid hour with a pro trainer, who can show you how to get the dog to focus on you in that time . Since you asked.
And your time is better spent on building a positive relationship with the dog. He will be much easier to train if he cares what you think. If you spend a good amount of time with him, even several times a day for 5 minutes each, without distractions, and just concentrate on him learning to like and listen to you, it will go a lot further than any collar.
One thing they won't do, is train the dog themselves. Probably get your best results if you have taken and obedience course first.
What it did for my dog was give him two extra years of his life. Living in the country, the most important thing you can teach your dog is "come". Everything else seems to pale to that command. I wouldn't have a dog that I couldn't call off of a deer, moose or car he wanted to chase.
If you really want to train a dog, giving treats sucks as a method. Spoils the animal, and the first time it has something more interesting than eating that it wants to do, it will ignore you.
My son and I even tried out the collar by taking turns shocking each other [on the hand], we could take up to setting 4, but #5 would make you want to pee your pants. Good tool, but training a dog [which makes it ten times the pet] takes the secret ingredient.....time. It takes time and patience. Similar to training children.
As a tool, I think it works like spanking a child. If you do it a few times when they are little, you won't have to do it when they are bigger than you. ymmv
Quote: billryanI certainly don't recommend a shock collar in most cases, but a clueless owner and a juvenile rott are a toxic combo and he obviously doesn't want to take the time and money to educate and train the dog so we go with Plan G.
Bill,
Warning. You are trolling the guy a couple times now. He seems to be honestly asking for advice, so just give it without the aspersions. Thank you.
FWIW, I happen to agree with the advice you're giving, but back off some.
I tend to prefer cats also and even has one that I referred to as my Primary Care Provider, but I've had dogs in the home also. I have one electronic acquaintance whose favorite pets are rats. I think its all the same emotions and concerns.Quote: IbeatyouracesI don't like dogs....meowwwwwww 😸😸😸
Quote: beachbumbabsBill,
Warning. You are trolling the guy a couple times now. He seems to be honestly asking for advice, so just give it without the aspersions. Thank you.
FWIW, I happen to agree with the advice you're giving, but back off some.
I don't think I'm trolling him. I think I am trying to make him aware of the potential for very bad things to happen if he keeps doing what he has been doing. In any event, I am bowing out. I hope he and his dog get the help they need and everything is all blue skies.
Quote: billryanI don't think I'm trolling him. I think I am trying to make him aware of the potential for very bad things to happen if he keeps doing what he has been doing. In any event, I am bowing out. I hope he and his dog get the help they need and everything is all blue skies.
I put a thank you on the post you didn't call him clueless or anything else, above. The other 2 times were the one I quoted and the one before the thank you post with similar phrasing. Just informing you what I'm referring to, not trying to extend an argument.
Quote: beachbumbabsI guess, if you're going to depend on the collar, I would suggest NOT the static one. That's like tasing him all the time.
Do they come with their own nuclear reactors? Perhaps a lead enabling plugging in directly to the sun? Cuz if they do, I'll take two. Just something that will do to my dog what Randy Johnson did to that pigeon
Quote: IbeatyouracesI don't like dogs....meowwwwwww 😸😸😸
I drove around the country in an RV with my cats for many years, and I let them out everywhere I went! Here are some tales of the times they didn't come back right away:
http://spikersystems.com/FlashNet_Pointer/www/documents/ChainHits
I still have Flick + Flash... here's a funny little video of Flash giving me a dirty look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJJYFNHMAsI
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Everyone loves their pets; a great way to spark up a hot thread!
