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March 31st, 2018 at 6:50:15 PM permalink
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The meats are a bad idea these days because they're full of chemicals and hormones and are often glued together from bacteria-laced scraps. The yogurt is definitely BAD!! This one got by all of us because it is promoted by the FDA and it appears on the food pyramid... turns out, the FDA food pyramid is and has always been FOR SALE, hence the meat/dairy being promoted aggressively... the meat/dairy producers are big-pharma's biggest customers!!! The meat and the cheese/milk/yogurt industries also buy approval from the American heart association for cash... yogurt and dairy, in general, is actually very unhealthy, especially for the heart/circulation.

Otherwise I almost agree with everything said... but what you might be missing is that mankind HAS BEEN depending upon drugs for a lot longer than the past 100 years. These "ancient drugs" go back thousands of years, and I believe that we have therefore developed genetic dependence upon them! If you study population genetics, you understand how this can happen... let's take marijuana, for example...

We've been consuming it for thousands of GENERATIONS over which the populations that benefit from it, thrive, and those who don't thrive don't survive. So, the populations in which this drug was helpful are the ones that get genetically selected towards a beneficial affinity for it. Another way of looking at this is, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. So, it might very well be that we need marijuana in our consumption to be healthy and thrive. Seriously!

Similarly, alcohol has been used for as long as pot and it also has a definite advantage for the cultures that consume it... compared to water, it is much safer to drink alcohol infused fluids. Ditto for a lot of the strong spices used in our foods... germs don't thrive in it, and so it has historically become a big part of our diets.

On the other hand, we are all being exposed to toxic chemicals that mankind has never been exposed to in the past. How can we possibly survive this onslaught of carcinogens? How can our next generation of children possibly make it without eventually scumming to cancer? I know that I have cancer as did the remaining 4/5 direct family members that all died within 4 years of each other. But I'm still alive, and I attribute this to one of these ancient drugs... that and ignoring the oncologists, and ignoring all attempts to get me hooked on killer psychotropic drugs. I too had this cancer way back in 2002 when my dad, mother, and both brothers died of it.

So, my "fight" against big-pharma is for a solid reason... keeping these jerks throttled down so that I can at least get my medical M J and try to enjoy what little time I have left on this God forsaken planet.

I pity the future of our planet and what the next generation of children can expect from it.



When i mention meat, im talking grass fed meat and organic. I didnt mention anything about dairy, but dairy can be good as well as long as its from grass fed cows and almond milk as well instead of all this pasteurized garbage being sold in stores.
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Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
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March 31st, 2018 at 6:55:59 PM permalink
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I'd like to point out that psychotropic drugs actually help millions of Americans feel better and are necessary for people with mental health functions to be well enough to handle themselves, recognize their behavior, and with some good ol' therapy get better, learn to recognize their own symptoms and get out of the cycle. You can call out BS, but it did wonders for my schizophrenic family member (and did wonders for the primary caregiver who no longer had to worry about whether the family member is going to hurt someone or theirselves).



Compared to placebo, they would have been BETTER off taking the placebo. Do some research of drug efficacy vs placebo at NaturalNews.com for all of the scientific data. MJ would cure 98% of these perceived "problems" with zero or very little side effects. Every one of these so-called "modern" drugs carry deadly side effects that often don't even surface for 25 years, for example Tardive Dyskinesia... research that and what causes it, and be prepared to be shocked. These are not side effects, these are effects.
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March 31st, 2018 at 7:19:08 PM permalink
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gazEyr86RVY
1h 27m 32s must watch, excellent


Using scientology videos
ROTFL
I hope you are not caught up in that cult
My advice
Stay away from the kool ade



terapined,
I know all about the CCHD and I know a lot about medicine and healthcare. I am an RRT/CRTT with 8 years of clinical experience and a BS in physiology from MSU. I don't care if the Catholic church or the N. Korean government sponsored these videos... they are THE TRUTH, and your knee-jerk reaction is expected. Dr. Peter Breggin isn't with the CCHD and he's been around for a long time. I could start naming the other real heroes that are trying to protect us from this scourge of treachery... Mike Adams, the health ranger, is another great resource at natural-news.com.

Why don't you watch that 1h 27m video instead of acting like you know what they're all about; but get a box a tissues because it will make you cry, watching parents talk about their dead children, murdered by these drugs. Please watch it, then make your critique. If you don't cry, you aren't a human being.
The difference between zero and the smallest possible number? It doesn't matter; once you cross that edge, it might as well be the difference between zero and 1. The difference between infinity and reality? They are mutually exclusive.
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March 31st, 2018 at 11:33:39 PM permalink
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When i mention meat, im talking grass fed meat and organic. I didnt mention anything about dairy, but dairy can be good as well as long as its from grass fed cows and almond milk as well instead of all this pasteurized garbage being sold in stores.



Sprouts in CA sells raw, grass-fed milk but they don't in Vegas. When I asked a manager about it he said that selling raw milk is illegal in Nevada. MJ is legal NV but milk isn't.

Some people on Craigslist sell it.
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April 1st, 2018 at 12:13:02 AM permalink
Quote: discflicker

Quote: terapined

Quote: discflicker

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gazEyr86RVY
1h 27m 32s must watch, excellent


Using scientology videos
ROTFL
I hope you are not caught up in that cult
My advice
Stay away from the kool ade



terapined,
I know all about the CCHD and I know a lot about medicine and healthcare. I am an RRT/CRTT with 8 years of clinical experience and a BS in physiology from MSU. I don't care if the Catholic church or the N. Korean government sponsored these videos... they are THE TRUTH, and your knee-jerk reaction is expected. Dr. Peter Breggin isn't with the CCHD and he's been around for a long time. I could start naming the other real heroes that are trying to protect us from this scourge of treachery... Mike Adams, the health ranger, is another great resource at natural-news.com.

Why don't you watch that 1h 27m video instead of acting like you know what they're all about; but get a box a tissues because it will make you cry, watching parents talk about their dead children, murdered by these drugs. Please watch it, then make your critique. If you don't cry, you aren't a human being.


I congratulate you on your education and qualifications. I know those aren’t easy to get. A good friend of mine is a respiratory therapist and does very very well for himself.

But unfortunately, many greedy people with legitimate medical qualifications have turned that trust to sh*t. My aunt is an RN who tries to push homeopathic BS on me constantly.

Just look at Dr. Oz, a legitimate MD, who pushes snake oil on a daily basis.

I would also take anything that Scientology pushes out with. Grain of salt, or whatever euphemism Is less than that.
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April 1st, 2018 at 2:28:40 AM permalink
Senator Mark Warner of Virginia has reversed his previous position and now states that he favors additional restrictions on assault weapons and magazines

he voted against further restrictions 5 years ago



it's starting. the snowball is rolling down the hill


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/warner-calls-for-restrictions-on-some-weapons-magazines/2018/03/31/2e8f78c0-3508-11e8-b6bd-0084a1666987_story.html?utm_term=.e93c0e59f0bf
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April 1st, 2018 at 2:50:20 AM permalink
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It's quite likely that homeless people are forced to fast much longer than 8 hours. And certainly, my family member, who suffers from schizophrenia and who I care for has, too. Clearly, you have no clue whatsoever of what you are talking about. And if you do, please publish a study that shows a link between mental disorders and fasting. Or a link between parents who didn't take of themselves and gave their kids a resulting trauma. Or anything that's been peer reviewed that makes an iota of scientific sense. When you do that, I will happily recant my statement and tell my family member that they have schizophrenia because their mom didn't care care of herself or that they didn't fast enough as a teenager.

Go back to the casino, continue counting cards, and be the king of Vegas. [sarcasm]That's what you're an expert at. [/sarcasm]



You got a lot to learn buddy. The science regarding fasting is mind boggling. If youre not fasting, youre dying slowly only to be medicated to death. Youll also never see these fasting studies hit the TV airwaves, but you know what youll get instead? Thousands of drug commercials with thousands of side effects and guess what? At the same time that these side effects are being read out, they coincidentally have a nice happy scenery in the background with everyone smiling, etc to keep you distracted from hearing the side effects.

Also i like how you try to focus on this schizo thing. Why are you not mentioning that homeless people never have any disease whatsoever other than dying of hunger and lack of clean water. Wheres the diabetes, cancer, and all of that with the homeless? Coincidence? I think not.[/no sarcasm]



As someone who was homeless and living on the streets of nyc for nearly 2 years i can tell you that you are absolutely wrong

Homeless people are not treated for many of their diseases but they most definitely get sick.

I knew at least three with cellulitis. Their feet swelled up with bleeding raw purplish skin who refused treatment (my dad had it and it will lead to amputation if not taken care of early. It can only be treated not cured so my dad was in and out of hospitals Btw my dad hated that and one time tried to fight it off just the way you are talking about. Two weeks later they amputated three of his toes and he was lucky since the original diagnosis was his whole leg but antibiotics cleared part of the infection)

Back to the homeless many i knew were suffering from high blood pressure diabetes etc. I myself have arthritis

So stop with the complete lies about things you know nothing of. The homeless are just more stoic about dealing with their disease because many cant or dont want treatment
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April 1st, 2018 at 3:07:24 AM permalink
http://www.newsweek.com/frank-stallone-twitter-david-hogg-parkland-sucker-punch-868072

Thanks to Frank for saying what 1/2 of America is thinking. Let the Frank Stallione jokes begin but he is utilizing his rights, just like the kid is.
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April 1st, 2018 at 3:43:32 AM permalink
Lookin' through his twitter.....yeah, David Hogg's kind of an a**hole.



[sarcasm]
plus he's literally hitler!!!!

[/sarcasm]

I included the [sarcasm] tags so people don't whine about it.
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April 1st, 2018 at 4:03:50 AM permalink
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http://www.newsweek.com/frank-stallone-twitter-david-hogg-parkland-sucker-punch-868072

Thanks to Frank for saying what 1/2 of America is thinking. Let the Frank Stallione jokes begin but he is utilizing his rights, just like the kid is.



Yea a 70 year old never-been (he has 15 minutes of warhol-ish fame due to his brother) knows anything about todays teens

Best comeback tho was judd apatow: "We dont have to worry about a boycott of Frank Stallone. That one started back in the 70's"
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April 1st, 2018 at 4:17:20 AM permalink
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As someone who was homeless and living on the streets of nyc for nearly 2 years i can tell you that you are absolutely wrong

Homeless people are not treated for many of their diseases but they most definitely get sick.

I knew at least three with cellulitis. Their feet swelled up with bleeding raw purplish skin who refused treatment (my dad had it and it will lead to amputation if not taken care of early. It can only be treated not cured so my dad was in and out of hospitals Btw my dad hated that and one time tried to fight it off just the way you are talking about. Two weeks later they amputated three of his toes and he was lucky since the original diagnosis was his whole leg but antibiotics cleared part of the infection)

Back to the homeless many i knew were suffering from high blood pressure diabetes etc. I myself have arthritis

So stop with the complete lies about things you know nothing of. The homeless are just more stoic about dealing with their disease because many cant or dont want treatment


What years were you homeless in NYC? Was it like full on homeless (like shopping cart, wandering around at 3am, sleeping on sidewalk, etc.) or like you're "couch surfing"? Do you think your years as a homeless have affected your political views or have you always been liberal (or however you self identify)?
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April 1st, 2018 at 4:30:08 AM permalink
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I congratulate you on your education and qualifications. I know those aren’t easy to get. A good friend of mine is a respiratory therapist and does very very well for himself.

But unfortunately, many greedy people with legitimate medical qualifications have turned that trust to sh*t. My aunt is an RN who tries to push homeopathic BS on me constantly.

Just look at Dr. Oz, a legitimate MD, who pushes snake oil on a daily basis.

I would also take anything that Scientology pushes out with. Grain of salt, or whatever euphemism Is less than that.



Fair enough. Did you watch any of those videos? Maybe just the 2 minute one from Michael Moore?

Would you trust Mike Adams?

BTW, I haven't practiced RT since the early 80s, but I really do have great recall of the biological sciences and was involved in a few research projects, like at Giltner hall at MSU in the physiology research lab. My point: I know the language of medicine and research, and I understand how those scumbags in the pharma industry blatantly lied to everyone just to sell their poisons.

They lie about their research numbers, hide/minimize negative effects, swap trial numbers with placebo numbers, rush drugs through 6-week trial periods, and then they use ghost writers to make up complete fables about their drugs. They publish these fables in expensive 15-page full-color glossy advertisements printed in "medical literature" that they self-publish, for example the JAMA... bought and paid for, just like the FDA's food pyramid. Ever see these magazine adds? I know you've seen them on TV, where they also disclaim the physical damage that is eminent. How much do ya think they spend on direct-to-consumer marketing?

They buy the medical schools and teach the doctors to prescribe these poisons as standard treatments and also disallow natural and "ancient medicines".

People like Mike Adams and Peter Breggin are watching them... and God bless these heroes for standing up for our human right to not be lied to and poisoned. It is an international struggle. These big corporations get caught lying and falsifying research ALL THE TIME... they just pay the multi-million dollar fines and go on; it's business as usual and these huge lawsuits and regulatory crackdowns are just subtracted from their outrageous profits.

There are no rules... nothing is forbidden... they kill babies and somehow justify it as acceptable losses!! They are like the automotive companies in that regard... minimizing safety for the bottom-line, they actually place a dollar cost on a human life and do the math to eek out a profit.

I personally know doctors who get perks from drug sales reps. I know a few drug sales reps who would do ANYTHING to sell more stuff, and they know better but do it anyway! I know nurses, psychiatrists and psychologists who are sold all the way down the road on this stuff, and even the ones who are aware of these lies and deception just go with the flow because that's what they're ordered to do. I know a few social workers who have put dozens of kids into foster care, and every one of them is now on Ridlin or worse... hooked for life and destined to suffer.

SOMEONE NEEDS TO SPEAK OUT. THIS IS A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH AND THE FUTURE OF HUMANITY ITSELF!! The long term effects of these drugs are DEVASTATING... did you research Tardive Dyskinesia?? Please do so... everyone who takes these drugs can expect to have some dyskenisia in about 25 years or so... they look like chimps made of jello, shaking and fidgeting, moving their mouth uncontrollably... these videos are hard to watch:
https://youtu.be/7pv6Z2Sny-c

Its ugly and all kept hidden from the public, like most of the damning effects of these drugs.

Thanks for listening.
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April 1st, 2018 at 5:19:13 AM permalink
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Yea a 70 year old never-been (he has 15 minutes of warhol-ish fame due to his brother) knows anything about todays teens

Best comeback tho was judd apatow: "We dont have to worry about a boycott of Frank Stallone. That one started back in the 70's"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGuC3I-a6lo
5m 44s
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April 1st, 2018 at 5:34:48 AM permalink
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http://www.newsweek.com/frank-stallone-twitter-david-hogg-parkland-sucker-punch-868072

Thanks to Frank for saying what 1/2 of America is thinking. Let the Frank Stallione jokes begin but he is utilizing his rights, just like the kid is.



You're saying half the country wants to be a coward and sucker punch someone. when they don't expect it?
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April 1st, 2018 at 5:38:52 AM permalink
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Lookin' through his twitter.....yeah, David Hogg's kind of an a**hole.


Really
I have him on my Twitter feed.
I also have Trump on my twitter feed
I have to admit, some of Trumps tweets , I think to myself, what an a**hole due to the unnecessary name calling insults
Hogg's tweets don't insult like Trump's does
Very curious
Which specific Hogg tweets really offended you?
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April 1st, 2018 at 6:09:37 AM permalink
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What years were you homeless in NYC? Was it like full on homeless (like shopping cart, wandering around at 3am, sleeping on sidewalk, etc.) or like you're "couch surfing"? Do you think your years as a homeless have affected your political views or have you always been liberal (or however you self identify)?



Good questions

2005 - lost two bi-coastal apartments when my film company i owned went from making $250,000 a year (it was me and one employee) to almost nothing due to a change in technology (a switch from shooting film to digital. I was a specialist in the handling of motion picture film. I worked on a number of big hollywood films

2005 - 2007 moved in with my dad. He passed in november 2007

2008 - 2010 bounced around couch surfing relative to relative to friend

2010 - 2012 full on homeless sleeping on benches and subways. However those same family and friends while not allowing me to stay did allow for visits which included showers. I was able to keep up my hygiene although at a few days intervals

2012 - started AP at casinos. Began with literally nothing in January of that year. Found a room in August of 2012 in a house on the beach. House destroyed by hurricane Sandy in november of that year. Homeless in hotel from FEMA remainder

2013 - FEMA funding ends. Full on homeless again sleeping on subways February to March. April started sleeping on busses to Sands Casino. 24 hours of round trips earned me over $100 a day

By September saved up enough for apartment. Had entire bankroll stolen so slept on floors for two months lol but hell i was used to it by then. Had a roof over my head now

2014 - present - kicked my AP skills up hired other people began running and organizing one of the most feared AP outfits on the East Coast. Took my first (of 7) trips to disney world. Brought a home theater. Living the good life since then

I have always identified democrat. Dont think it made any difference to me politically my being homeless

EDIT: for those wondering why so many trips to disney besides being a disney buff it was payback to all those families and friends during the homeless years who helped me. They all had kids and one by one i took them down for a week here and a week there

EDIT EDIT: during the good years in Hollywood I had purchased option rights to a comic book series called Dark Oz - sequel to Wizard of Oz. From 2004 - 2011 the project was worming its way through Hollywood producers of Bridge to Terabithia were attached. Producers of Batman and the Transformers all involved in development. I was literally calling hollywood studio execs on Obama phones watching my minutes or emailing from library computers. I was certain my homelessness would be wonderful storytelling on entertainment tonight at the premiere

When Oz the Great and Powerful was greenlit (long competing film project) mine was toast. My hopes and dreams for Hollywood did fuel some of my refusal to get a job as i waited for the big break but it wasnt the only reason. The recession had hit and other financial factors too played a role
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April 1st, 2018 at 6:41:03 AM permalink
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Yea a 70 year old never-been (he has 15 minutes of warhol-ish fame due to his brother) knows anything about todays teens

Best comeback tho was judd apatow: "We dont have to worry about a boycott of Frank Stallone. That one started back in the 70's"



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/frank-stallone-net-worth/%3famp=1

None of my business how you are doing, but to most 2.5M Net Worth isn’t bad.
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April 1st, 2018 at 6:43:02 AM permalink
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You're saying half the country wants to be a coward and sucker punch someone. when they don't expect it?



If he doesn’t expect it at this point, he is a bigger idiot than the person he plays on TV.

Probably why he has ARMED security.
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April 1st, 2018 at 6:54:44 AM permalink
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/frank-stallone-net-worth/%3famp=1

None of my business how you are doing, but to most 2.5M Net Worth isn’t bad.



I agree. Its why he is in the news at all. I am referring to his success in terms of Hollywood

His brother is a worth hundreds of times more. Frank never had a successful movie and the only real success he had was thanks to his brother giving him cameos in his films

So he is a neverbeen as opposed to a hasbeen in hollywood
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April 1st, 2018 at 7:37:19 AM permalink
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Senator Mark Warner of Virginia has reversed his previous position and now states that he favors additional restrictions on assault weapons and magazines

he voted against further restrictions 5 years ago



it's starting. the snowball is rolling down the hill



The estimates of "AR's" in NY vary wildly. The president of NY Pistol and Rifle club estimates 1-2 million. There's a group that tries to track them for gun manufacturers, their estimate is 700k - 1mm.

NY requires registration of these weapons. The punishment for failing to oblige is a felony.

It's been roughly two years since the deadline. The amount that have been registered?

45,000.

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."

Let it snow.
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April 1st, 2018 at 8:06:47 AM permalink
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The estimates of "AR's" in NY vary wildly. The president of NY Pistol and Rifle club estimates 1-2 million. There's a group that tries to track them for gun manufacturers, their estimate is 700k - 1mm.

NY requires registration of these weapons. The punishment for failing to oblige is a felony.

It's been roughly two years since the deadline. The amount that have been registered?

45,000.

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."

Let it snow.



You're so civil in your disobedience. Gotta love it. :)
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April 1st, 2018 at 9:19:55 AM permalink
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You're so civil in your disobedience. Gotta love it. :)



One has to be. I think I'm probably (see also: Certain) a lot more Mr. X than Dr. King. But while I can't always keep the fury from seeping into my posts, I do understand that said fury matters to no one but me, and is a liability to my cause.

I also realize that attacking anti's is almost always the wrong move. I see it either as A) a simple case of misinformation that a level headed, mature, and helpful approach could fix, or B) a legit personal stance that I've no right, or power, to change. I will put an asterisks on this statement in that I reserve the right to destroy in any (non-physical) way possible the likes of the Feinsteins and Cuomos of the world, but the rxwines and Steverinos out there are not my enemy.

Unless you meant in practice in real life? In that case the answer is simple: I was just made that way. I've been wrecked and sent home bloody by 140lb bean poles, I've destroyed and embarrassed dudes who can bench twice my body weight. I don't care about the odds, and couldn't compute them if I tried. All that matters is that I stood when standing was needed. "Cost" has no bearing.

And let's be real, despite some anti's protests on we gunners who hoard, I've never been able to source an assault body. I might have enough personal firepower to commandeer an island nation, but I can only hold one of these at a time. 1 rootin' tootin' pop can shootin' hillbilly vs 4,900 NY State Police? I can do that math. Let's do please keep it civil =)
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April 1st, 2018 at 9:50:50 AM permalink
Prohibition of anything people want has never and will never work in the US.

Which is why all (or most) recreational drugs should be legalized. But instead we have the Trump suggesting the death penalty for drug dealers.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/19/politics/opioid-policy-trump-new-hampshire/index.html
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April 1st, 2018 at 10:01:57 AM permalink
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...Trump suggesting the death penalty for drug dealers.



Will he start with Phizer or GlaxoSmithKlein?

It's sort of odd watching him try to out third world the third world.
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April 1st, 2018 at 11:23:41 AM permalink
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I agree. Its why he is in the news at all. I am referring to his success in terms of Hollywood

His brother is a worth hundreds of times more. Frank never had a successful movie and the only real success he had was thanks to his brother giving him cameos in his films

So he is a neverbeen as opposed to a hasbeen in hollywood



On that we agree, but like Hogg his comments are drawing opposing rebuttals. Any publicity is worth something and for Frank it’s the first in years.
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April 1st, 2018 at 3:52:25 PM permalink
David Hogg is fascinating in how he's able to drive righties absolutely insane.

He's 17. Almost legally an adult. He IS NOT immune from criticism. And yet, the way the righties go after him makes him seem like the victim.

Comparing him to Hitler? Calling him a pussy? Attacking him for having a 4.1 GPA?!

How friggin desperate and *deplorable* are these people?!
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April 1st, 2018 at 4:44:21 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I agree. Its why he is in the news at all. I am referring to his success in terms of Hollywood

His brother is a worth hundreds of times more. Frank never had a successful movie and the only real success he had was thanks to his brother giving him cameos in his films

So he is a neverbeen as opposed to a hasbeen in hollywood



Anybody keeping score?
Hogg 1 Ingraham 0
Hogg 1 Frank Stallone 0

Who wants to tangle with Hogg next?
lol

Frank Stallone just tweeted
"To everyone and to David Hogg especially. I want to deeply apologize for my irresponsible words, I would never in a million years wish or promote violence to anyone anywhere on this planet. After what these kids went though I’m deeply ashamed. Please accept my apology. Frank”
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April 1st, 2018 at 4:46:16 PM permalink
I would guess the deafening silence backing LI on her rudeness (and she was far from the only one) is the result of the object lesson that is Twitter.

The kids don't fight fair. They have social media alllll figured out. I know when I'm behind. And I know which of my nieces and nephews to call.
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April 1st, 2018 at 7:23:32 PM permalink
Hogg is probably going to lose his job/career someday over something really stupid and petty, and it’s going t be freaking hilarious irony.
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April 1st, 2018 at 8:26:59 PM permalink
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Hogg is probably going to lose his job/career someday over something really stupid and petty, and it’s going t be freaking hilarious irony.

I don't like Ingraham or Hoggs. I say they both go on celebrity boxing and let the 2 girls fight it out. My money is on Ingraham.
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April 1st, 2018 at 10:29:43 PM permalink
Surprising factoid: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43610936 More murders in London than New York
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April 2nd, 2018 at 2:51:52 AM permalink
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Surprising factoid: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43610936 More murders in London than New York



Surprising factoid: article states there were 11 murders in NYC in February

There were 17 murders in Parkland Florida

Hmmmm.....
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April 2nd, 2018 at 6:04:50 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

David Hogg is fascinating in how he's able to drive righties absolutely insane.

He's 17. Almost legally an adult. He IS NOT immune from criticism. And yet, the way the righties go after him makes him seem like the victim.

Comparing him to Hitler? Calling him a pussy? Attacking him for having a 4.1 GPA?!

How friggin desperate and *deplorable* are these people?!


I am pretty blown away as well
With the attention he is getting from the right, you would think he's the next Speaker of the House this fall
He's just a high school student
He discusses the issues.
He does not spout nasty insults like Trump with Little Marco, Lyin Ted, Moonbeam Brown, Pohohantas Warren, ect
Why the overwhelming hate. Why compare him to Hitler? One long time member here said he looks like a child molester
Why are some conservatives becoming totally unhinged over a high school student
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April 2nd, 2018 at 6:30:15 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Anybody keeping score?
Hogg 1 Ingraham 0
Hogg 1 Frank Stallone 0

Who wants to tangle with Hogg next?
lol

Frank Stallone just tweeted
"To everyone and to David Hogg especially. I want to deeply apologize for my irresponsible words, I would never in a million years wish or promote violence to anyone anywhere on this planet. After what these kids went though I’m deeply ashamed. Please accept my apology. Frank”



Franks brother sylvester who happens to be anti-gun stance probably went to his house and bitch-slapped him

But seriously his sylvester probably doesnt want or need this type of attention and spoke to frank
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April 2nd, 2018 at 6:55:58 AM permalink
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Why are some conservatives becoming totally unhinged over a high school student



Because he's been incredibly effective thus far, and the righties are scared.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 6:59:57 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Franks brother sylvester who happens to be anti-gun stance probably went to his house and bitch-slapped him

But seriously his sylvester probably doesnt want or need this type of attention and spoke to frank



That train left years ago, Sly gave up on him after some of the interviews he did on Stern. He has no career to ruin so I do believe he just saw the backlash and apologized. Whether it’s sincere or not, who knows.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 8:48:13 AM permalink
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Why are some conservatives becoming totally unhinged over a high school student



Because they're terrified of this upcoming generation. They know the GOP and Conservative party as it exists today is dying, hard and fast. Dying in a figurative sense, and because it mainly consists of the Boomer generation and older which is literally dying.

We are seeing the death throes of a failing and increasingly irrelevant ideology. The GOP and Conservatives will still exist, but in the next 10 years or so it will become far more moderate, and almost liberal by today's standards.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 10:15:29 AM permalink
Idk who this Hogg person is because my only exposure to the news is the lil screen while pumping gas but you're absolutely right. One could argue the future has already happened. The libs like to tax and spend while the lib JV team (failing Republican party) likes to tax the future (borrow) and spend. Either way, we're F'd in he A. Now, Trump screwed over his base with the omnibus bill. A politician's relationship with God used to be really important because voters wanted to make sure they kept their campaign promises. The US is getting what it deserves. I think Billy Graham said "if God doesn't judge America he'll have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah".
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April 2nd, 2018 at 11:55:09 AM permalink
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A politician's relationship with God used to be really important because voters wanted to make sure they kept their campaign promises.



Trump didn't even go to church on Easter. Or at least he didn't talk about it on twitter, which pretty much guarantees he didn't go.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 12:04:42 PM permalink
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Trump didn't even go to church on Easter. Or at least he didn't talk about it on twitter, which pretty much guarantees he didn't go.



He actually did go to church on Easter. With Melania and Tiffany, no less.
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April 4th, 2018 at 3:38:26 AM permalink
Fake News ramped up with the YouTube shooting with the typical BS - claiming the shooter was anti-gun - doing it for political reasons

Pathetic

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/youtube-shooting-fake-news-hoaxes-social-media/
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April 4th, 2018 at 8:50:21 AM permalink
Indeed.

"Man", "big man", "assault rifle", "disgruntled about YT gun policy", saw a whole bunch of s#$% this morning. Once identified as a 30something Persian woman, started seeing pics. Some dark of skin and eyes (proper), some Snow White with green eyes (proper horses#$%). Then it was "disgruntled lover", "shot her boyfriend", and all that flop. Nope, just a far-left vegan whackadoo mad because YT demonetized her. Alas, that doesn't fit the narrative so facts must be "adjusted".

Ya know, "FIRE" in a crowded theatre is but a cliche, not a comprehensive list. The 1st is as vulnerable to dilution as it is suppression. Maybe time to start holding folks accountable?

Prolly nah, tho. Because reasons.
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April 4th, 2018 at 9:14:42 AM permalink
Ahh, the good old days before 9/11...

When somebody shot the place up everyone just agreed the reason was, "some lunatic just snapped." Then everyone went about their day being nice to each other.

Now the reason is "they're a liberal/conservative/Muslim/antifa/black/white/false-flag-operative/etc. and if you don't agree with me you're a traitor to this country!!" and everyone hates each other.
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April 4th, 2018 at 9:33:37 AM permalink
Probably need to get some more reliable news sources if you were seeing all that crap.
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April 4th, 2018 at 9:35:05 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Ahh, the good old days before 9/11...

When somebody shot the place up everyone just agreed the reason was, "some lunatic just snapped." Then everyone went about their day being nice to each other.

Now the reason is "they're a liberal/conservative/Muslim/antifa/black/white/false-flag-operative/etc. and if you don't agree with me you're a traitor to this country!!" and everyone hates each other.



It's Destabilization 101, Mr Wu. Manufacture a problem and create a solution that gives you control over those you claim to be assisting. Most people will be more than happy to hand you anything so long as they have to deal with nothing.

That's why there's not a single effort to ramp up mental health assistance. There's no power in it. But if we ignore it and just keep championing the idea that it's (insert demographic here), that gives one a solid target with which to unload one's fear fueled hate. A few irresponsible media interactions later, and we're clamoring for walls and flight restrictions and weapons confiscations.

Kind of terrifying seeing otherwise intelligent people diving into it head first into it under their own volition. Kind of disgusting seeing them being proud of this fact.
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April 4th, 2018 at 9:42:28 AM permalink
Quote: Steverinos

Probably need to get some more reliable news sources if you were seeing all that crap.



I was just referring to people in general, not news outlets.

Of course, the proliferation of "social media" and public internet fora over the last 15+ years hasn't exactly helped the situation, either.

Now any idiot can say whatever they want without consequence, and have an audience of billions of people. That's not an ingredient for a healthy civilization.
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April 4th, 2018 at 9:53:03 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

I was just referring to people in general, not news outlets.

Of course, the proliferation of "social media" and public internet fora over the last 15+ years hasn't exactly helped the situation, either.

Now any idiot can say whatever they want without consequence, and have an audience of billions of people. That's not an ingredient for a healthy civilization.



No, it's not. Smartphones were supposed to make us smarter. Not so much. People are much more concerned with "likes" and "thumbsup" than they are with being accurate.
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April 4th, 2018 at 10:53:11 AM permalink
Let me just sum up the current state of our government and maybe i can finally convince you that the government always has an agenda at place and it's never just a 'coincidence'. The evidence will be irrefutable and maybe some of you will finally wake up and spread the word.

Let's take for example what happened after 9/11. We all know this was perpetrated by own government sadly with the excuse of 'terrorism' and the 'war on terror' and there is evidence that the CIA and FBI knew about these 'terrorists' that were undergoing flight training, but that's besides the fact. The point is what happened shortly after 9/11 that proves the agenda of the gov't and that it was never about safety of its citizens due to 'terrorism'. What did they immediately try to do shortly after 9/11? The government started petitioning everyone to get National ID cards, mandatory safety checks, passing the Patriot Act that completely breached everyone's privacy and financial privacy through banking institutions all because of the excuse of 'war on terror'. Not to mention it was then used to invade IRAQ based on a false belief that they had 'Weapons of mass destruction'. Give me a break. It was all about the oil and it's still ongoing.

If all of this was REALLY about the safety to protect us from terrorism, why didnt they just shut all of the borders down? That's what any person with common sense would've done. That right there should tell you it was NEVER about the safety of the citizens from terrorism, but rather to slowly strip us more of our rights starting with our privacy, financial privacy, and to invade Iraq for their oil reserves.

What about the Vietnam War and the Gulf of Tonkin incident? This was was based on a COMPLETE lie that the U.S. ships were attacked by the Vietnamese and how many American soldiers ended up dying as a result after they were sent to invade Vietname? Just sickening.

Always be alert, nothing happens by chance with this government as history shows us. If red flags go off in your head that something doesn't add up, be sure there is a massive agenda going on behind the scenes. This gun control thing screams to be another red flag agenda and the more you argue amongst one another, you're playing right into the government's playbook, which is to keep you distracted from real issues and to strip you of your guns.
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April 4th, 2018 at 11:04:09 AM permalink
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Why are some conservatives becoming totally unhinged over a high school student


Quote: ams288

Because he's been incredibly effective thus far, and the righties are scared.


Yep, that's it...any chance the Left can make gun reform their main rally message to get the vote out for the mid-terms?
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April 4th, 2018 at 11:11:16 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Surprising factoid: article states there were 11 murders in NYC in February

There were 17 murders in Parkland Florida

Hmmmm.....



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