Gun Promoters No Place to Hide Now
the kids are powerful.
the NRA is about to get its ass kicked
dumb ass bumper sticker slogans aren't going to cut it for them anymore
Florida just passed some new gun control measures. It wasn't much but it was something. Other states will follow.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/24/us/politics/students-lead-huge-rallies-for-gun-control-across-the-us.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
I stand with them, and truly hope this is a turning point. I've never been a single issue voter before but am now.
Marchers walked in almost four hundred congressional districts, signing up hundreds of thousands of new voters. Many, if not most of these kids will be eligible to vote themselves in four years.
God's speed.
Quote: lilredroosterthe kids are with all of us who want serious gun control measures
the kids are powerful.
the NRA is about to get its ass kicked
dumb ass bumper sticker slogans aren't going to cut it for them anymore
Florida just passed some new gun control measures. It wasn't much but it was something. Other states will follow.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/24/us/politics/students-lead-huge-rallies-for-gun-control-across-the-us.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
Not likely. Maybe a Nationally 21 year old minimum to purchase rifles. That would maybe have stopped 1 shooting in the last 5 years, probably just changrd the weapon though. Bump stocks might get banned. Used once ever in a mass shooting.
Nobody cares about kids marching. It makes good news for CNN, but other than that, means nothing.
Every 6 months there's a different cause liberals jump on the bandwagon to yell and march about. March against Trump, March for Truth, Hands up don't shoot, $15 minimum wage, Illigal alien rights, yada yada yada.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13
Every 6 months there's a different cause liberals jump on the bandwagon to yell and march about. March against Trump, March for Truth, Hands up don't shoot, $15 minimum wage, Illigal alien rights, yada yada yada.
ZCore13
That is what you are supposed to do if you have a cause you believe in. Bring it to public attention in coordinated peaceful ways. I may be against most of their platforms but I am happy I live in a country where they can show their political feelings in public.
This rabble rousing ban the NRA is a media led fad.
As one of the Weavers, referencing his recent kidney stone, said when Nixon was elected "this too shall pass".
Quote: billryanMany, if not most of these kids will be eligible to vote themselves in four years.
God's speed.
And what is really sad is they have gone thru and education system that has taught them to march to ask for their rights to be taken away, They will be good little drones.
Quote: lilredroosterthe kids are with all of us who want serious gun control measures
the kids are powerful.
the NRA is about to get its ass kicked
dumb ass bumper sticker slogans aren't going to cut it for them anymore
Florida just passed some new gun control measures. It wasn't much but it was something. Other states will follow.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/24/us/politics/students-lead-huge-rallies-for-gun-control-across-the-us.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
We live in a country where changing your profile pic or boycotting a multi billion dollar Corp for 24hrs is seen as a valiant effort. Where school shootings, even if done during an uproar about school shootings, are mostly buried when it turns out a gun in the school saved the day because it doesn't fit the narrative.
Define "ass kicked" and name your terms. Any money on "The People" is ripe for the taking; might as well be me.
Quote: billryanToday's marches were powerful. I admire these kids, especially the girl who stood there silent for six minutes plus.
I stand with them, and truly hope this is a turning point. I've never been a single issue voter before but am now.
Marchers walked in almost four hundred congressional districts, signing up hundreds of thousands of new voters. Many, if not most of these kids will be eligible to vote themselves in four years.
God's speed.
A teenage girl was quiet for 6 minutes? Miraculous. Where do I turn in my guns?
Quote: RogerKintA teenage girl was quiet for 6 minutes? Miraculous. Where do I turn in my guns?
You had to be there. It was very powerful.
I think respect must be paid. These kids (including her) were traumatized. They are responding with anger, effort, and activism. Not cowering in a corner, whining, expecting others to deal with it for them. They are demanding their views be represented in Congress, or they will help someone else get elected who does.
Agree with them or not, but mocking them makes you smaller, not them.
Quote: SOOPOOThat is what you are supposed to do if you have a cause you believe in. Bring it to public attention in coordinated peaceful ways. I may be against most of their platforms but I am happy I live in a country where they can show their political feelings in public.
Very good point. Agree or disagree with their beliefs, don't take for granted the ability to safely/peacefully protest in a great country like USA.
That will get you seriously hurt in many other countries.
Quote: RogerKintA teenage girl was quiet for 6 minutes? Miraculous. Where do I turn in my guns?
I don't care what side of the issue you are on, that was some funny sh*t.
Oh, the joy of laughing.
BOOO!!!!!! Come on now, you have got to get a sense of humor, even when it stings vs your political views or even when it's about you.Quote: beachbumbabs
Agree with them or not, but mocking them makes you smaller, not them.
If I only had the rights to banhammer mods. (-;
The “if you don’t agree, you’re responsible for death” insinuations need to stop. Common that once you no longer can state your point, to start virtue signaling, degrading and insulting those who don’t agree. Poor form, no class in getting across your point.
Quote: FleaStiffRural areas have gun use and gun ownership at young ages. Audie Murphy started hunting at age 9 and was the sole support of his family at age twelve. Tractors and farm trucks get driven at young ages too. Not much of a problem at all.
This rabble rousing ban the NRA is a media led fad.
As one of the Weavers, referencing his recent kidney stone, said when Nixon was elected "this too shall pass".
+1. It is true, there is another America out there where, not everyone lives in a city or suburb, difficult world for many to understand that is possible. Now where you peein, city boy?
Quote: Zcore13Not likely. Maybe a Nationally 21 year old minimum to purchase rifles. That would maybe have stopped 1 shooting in the last 5 years, probably just changrd the weapon though. Bump stocks might get banned. Used once ever in a mass shooting.
Nobody cares about kids marching. It makes good news for CNN, but other than that, means nothing.
Every 6 months there's a different cause liberals jump on the bandwagon to yell and march about. March against Trump, March for Truth, Hands up don't shoot, $15 minimum wage, Illigal alien rights, yada yada yada.
ZCore13
In my lifetime, Liberals have lead the way for Civil Rights, helped end a useless war, given women control of their body, helped gay Americans become full citizens and much more.
What have Conservatives done in the last fifty years? Given us the Iraq war? Made a bunch of con men rich or richer?
Raise the voting age to 21.
Quote: ahiromuChildren are stupid, stop making them into the paragon of virtue. Especially teenagers.
Raise the voting age to 21.
PEOPLE are stupid.
And adults are basically just children who have bills to pay.
If these kids get ticked off enough, they're going to start running for local offices in a couple years.
If the voting age is 21, then everything adult-related should be 21. Guns, cigarettes, booze, porn, military service... let's at least make it consistent.
Quote: billryanIn my lifetime, Liberals have lead the way for Civil Rights, helped end a useless war, given women control of their body, helped gay Americans become full citizens and much more.
What have Conservatives done in the last fifty years? Given us the Iraq war? Made a bunch of con men rich or richer?
They have also destroyed the Black Family, made people proud to kill their children, and presided over huge increases in crime in our cities (which conservatives cleaned up.)
I'll take conservatives any day. Conservatives do not hide who they are like liberals do.
Quote: AZDuffmanThey have also destroyed the Black Family, made people proud to kill their children, and presided over huge increases in crime in our cities (which conservatives cleaned up.)
I'll take conservatives any day. Conservatives do not hide who they are like liberals do.
Crime rates in cities and the country have plummeted in my lifetime. I came of age in New York City in the 1970s. Anyone who wants to return to the "good old days" of the 1960s/1970s is uninformed or a moron. Possibly both.
Quote: billryanCrime rates in cities and the country have plummeted in my lifetime. I came of age in New York City in the 1970s. Anyone who wants to return to the "good old days" of the 1960s/1970s is uninformed or a moron. Possibly both.
And it was Rudy who rescued the city. NYC is on its way back, though, for nostalgia fans.
Quote: FaceWe live in a country where changing your profile pic or boycotting a multi billion dollar Corp for 24hrs is seen as a valiant effort. Where school shootings, even if done during an uproar about school shootings, are mostly buried when it turns out a gun in the school saved the day because it doesn't fit the narrative.
Define "ass kicked" and name your terms. Any money on "The People" is ripe for the taking; might as well be me.
Dems take the House this fall
Quote: AZDuffmanAnd it was Rudy who rescued the city. NYC is on its way back, though, for nostalgia fans.
Rudy is gone 18 years. NYC today is much better than Rudy left it.
Quote: billryanRudy is gone 18 years. NYC today is much better than Rudy left it.
You can keep denying it, but Rudy rescued NYC from the liberal sewer it had become. Remember the "squeege guys?" Prior reaction was "oh, well, nutting we can do!" That was life in NYC. Under Rudy it became a city people wanted to live in once again. Mayors that came after Rudy kept the best of his programs, though the current guy seems to want to return to the 1970s.
Quote: Zcore13Not likely. Maybe a Nationally 21 year old minimum to purchase rifles. That would maybe have stopped 1 shooting in the last 5 years, probably just changrd the weapon though. Bump stocks might get banned. Used once ever in a mass shooting.
Nobody cares about kids marching. It makes good news for CNN, but other than that, means nothing.
Every 6 months there's a different cause liberals jump on the bandwagon to yell and march about. March against Trump, March for Truth, Hands up don't shoot, $15 minimum wage, Illigal alien rights, yada yada yada.
ZCore13
Squeezed into all those things you hate above:
Hands up dont shoot?
You really are for shooting people with their hands up?
Quote: AZDuffmanYou can keep denying it, but Rudy rescued NYC from the liberal sewer it had become. Remember the "squeege guys?" Prior reaction was "oh, well, nutting we can do!" That was life in NYC. Under Rudy it became a city people wanted to live in once again. Mayors that came after Rudy kept the best of his programs, though the current guy seems to want to return to the 1970s.
I'm sure you spent lots of time living there both before and post Rudy. Right?
Crime today is less than it was during Rudys term, relations between the police and the residents are infinitely better and property values are stronger.
All of America had bad crime in the late 1980s/early 1990s. The crack epidemic was horrible everywhere. Rudy wasn't a horrible mayor, it's just he followed David Dinkins. Perhaps the most inept politician to ever hold office. Anyone would have looked better after him. Bloomberg did at least as good a job as Mr. G and the current Mayor has done a decent job. All the BS neocons have been saying for the last four years has proven to be as fake as they are. Business is booming. Crime is lower than it ever was during G's tenure. DiBlasio is putting up crime stats Rudy could only dream about.
“How about kids instead of looking to someone else to solve their problem, do something about maybe taking CPR classes or trying to deal with situations that when there is a violent shooter that you can actually respond to that,” Santorum said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”
A school district in Dicks state announced this week that it has stocked classrooms with barrels of rocks for students to throw at future shooters. The schools spokesman said that some of his students had really good arms and could be an effective deterrent.
Maybe all that fracking is putting something in the water.
Quote: billryanJust watched Dick Santorum suggest students would be better off learning CPR so they can help their wounded classmates than trying to stop future shooters.
That seems a bit insensitive of him. Why not suggest both? Learn CPR to help wounded classmates and strive to stop future shooters? That would have been the best thing for him to have said IMHO.
Quote: Zcore13Nobody cares about kids marching. It makes good news for CNN, but other than that, means nothing.
Normally, I might agree with that, but you forget that Bernie Sanders pretty much says everything young voters want to hear - "Free college tuition! (Never mind that you still have to pay for room and board, and books...) Free healthcare for all! Tax the rich, and pretty much every 401(k) in the country - er, uh 'speculators'!" Add, "Stricter gun laws - going to school should not be Russian roulette!," and now you have a reason for a lot of these kids who probably would have stayed home on election day to show up - and if enough of them vote for Bernie-plan supporters in 2018, he has a foot in the door in 2020 to get his ideas passed into law.
Quote: terapinedDems take the House this fall
Tell us something that wasn't obvious long before this march. To be fair, you now have to consider the Senate in play as well.
Beware of the thing that is coming, beware of the risen people
Who shall take what ye would not give.
Those who ignore history often get to relive their mistakes. Over and over.
Quote: darkozSqueezed into all those things you hate above:
Hands up dont shoot?
You really are for shooting people with their hands up?
That's not what he said and you know it. But that's what liberals do, they twist words around.
"Do you support black lives matter?"
"No"
"What so you don't support black ppl? OMG racism!"
"Do you support feminism?"
"No" (just like any reasonable person who's not retarded)
"Omg that's misogyny, you hate women!!"
The things they say they "stand for" are not the same things they actually stand for. Case in point: BLM is more about being anti-police than it is supporting black people. Feminism is more about anti-men/patriarchy than it is about equality (which they claim to be about). "Hands up don't shoot" wasn't about a cop who shot someone with his hands up, since that didn't happen in that situation. It was an argument made from a false premise.
You want gun control? Go take some guns away from government agents then. I'll wait here.
Yup, society is doomed. Gun control agenda is in full force due to the massive amount of brainwashed citizens and now drone kids leading the charge not knowing how the real world actually works. Brainwash them nice and early. Yeah, let's strip guns from innocent law abiding Americans and let only the government and criminals have guns. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. These gun control advocate drones don't understand that criminals will always have access to guns, whether there's a law on the books or not. So once you think about it 'critically', you understand the true essence of what this gun control activism is all about, and that's the agenda of the government to slowly strip away the 2nd amendment. They know it won't be done overnight, so they slowly but surely try to convince the whole country that it needs to be done away with. Yes, let's create a country where only the government and criminals are allowed to have guns. An understanding of history tells you what happens next when that happens and what it eventually leads to. Police state anyone? Communism?
These kids also can't comprehend the fact that shootings have been happening forever, it's just that now with the rapid expansion of social media and a corrupt media and government agenda, we hear about this all the time. Also, why is a school shooting news worthy, but thousands of people gunned down in the streets of chicago, LA, and new york, not a story? I would tell you why, but maybe if I let other people think for themselves for once, maybe, just maybe we can start changing this world. I can only do so much.
but hey we need more gun laws.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-odds-that-a-gun-will-kill-the-average-american-may-surprise-you/ar-BBKGdMY?li=BBnb4R7
Your chances of Death by any gun assault look pretty high.
There were three assertions in RS's post. Which was the true one?Quote: billryanYou just made two wild claims. Have anything top back them up?
Quote: darkozSqueezed into all those things you hate above:
Hands up dont shoot?
You really are for shooting people with their hands up?
Even Holder's rabidly politicized Justice Dept. and F.B.I. debunked that myth years ago:
"Although there are several individuals who have stated that Brown held his hands up in an unambiguous sign of surrender prior to Wilson shooting him dead, their accounts do not support a prosecution of Wilson. As detailed throughout this report, some of those accounts are inaccurate because they are inconsistent with the physical and forensic evidence; some of those accounts are materially inconsistent with that witness’s own prior statements with no explanation, credible for otherwise, as to why those accounts changed over time. Certain other witnesses who originally stated Brown had his hands up in surrender recanted their original accounts, admitting that they did not witness the shooting or parts of it, despite what they initially reported either to federal or local law enforcement or to the media. Prosecutors did not rely on those accounts when making a prosecutive decision." --Page 8, Memorandum
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE REPORT REGARDING THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO THE SHOOTING DEATH
OF MICHAEL BROWN BY FERGUSON, MISSOURI POLICE OFFICER DARREN WILSON -
How does one know if they are liberal or conservative?Quote: RSBut that's what liberals do, they twist words around.
Quote: AxelWolfHow does one know if they are liberal or conservative?
If you have to ask, you're not a conservative.
ZCore13
Quote: ZenKinGOh these little drone kids, who can't think critically and believe whatever the mass media tells them. No, this is not my opinion either. Courts as well as the Supreme Court have repeatedly held the media is 'legally' allowed to lie. Let that sink in.
Yup, society is doomed. Gun control agenda is in full force due to the massive amount of brainwashed citizens and now drone kids leading the charge not knowing how the real world actually works. Brainwash them nice and early. Yeah, let's strip guns from innocent law abiding Americans and let only the government and criminals have guns. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. These gun control advocate drones don't understand that criminals will always have access to guns, whether there's a law on the books or not. So once you think about it 'critically', you understand the true essence of what this gun control activism is all about, and that's the agenda of the government to slowly strip away the 2nd amendment. They know it won't be done overnight, so they slowly but surely try to convince the whole country that it needs to be done away with. Yes, let's create a country where only the government and criminals are allowed to have guns. An understanding of history tells you what happens next when that happens and what it eventually leads to. Police state anyone? Communism?
These kids also can't comprehend the fact that shootings have been happening forever, it's just that now with the rapid expansion of social media and a corrupt media and government agenda, we hear about this all the time. Also, why is a school shooting news worthy, but thousands of people gunned down in the streets of chicago, LA, and new york, not a story? I would tell you why, but maybe if I let other people think for themselves for once, maybe, just maybe we can start changing this world. I can only do so much.
Zen, those kids marching are not drones who believe whatever the media tells them. They are matching in outrage that their best friends are dead from a nutjob shooting them for fun and that nutjob shouldn't even supposed to be on school grounds in the first place. IIRC, he had been expelled the previous year. It wasn't like an active schoolmate/classmate was doing the shooting.
Also, the reason that school shootings get so much coverage and exposures over say a random mass shooting in say Grand Central Park in New York City is because a school shooting is usually kids and teenagers who haven't really lived yet being senselessly killed whereas a shooting in GCP is more likely adults who have lived a lot longer than a kid. Be honest. Who do you feel more outraged for? The senseless killing of a 15 year old Honor Student or a 35 year old Dental Assistant? I tend to be more outraged with the senseless killing of the 15 year old Honor Student than the 35 year old Dental Assistant myself.
I got curiouse so I took one of them online tests. There were like 2 questions I had no idea who the people were they asked about, so I just avoided picking a female name(-;Quote: Zcore13If you have to ask, you're not a conservative.
ZCore13
Here is what it said.
You are 53% conservative and 47% liberal, you are a Centrist!
You believe in the power of the greater majority. As a centrist, you find yourself making compromises, and understand perspectives from both sides of the political spectrum. Certain issues sway you one direction; others, the opposite. In the end, you are not a radical, and hope to pave a way for a better America that pleases everyone.
Are you sure that wasn't your horoscope?Quote: AxelWolfI got curiouse so I took one of them online tests. There were like 2 questions I had no idea who the people were they asked about, so I just avoided picking a female name(-;
Here is what it said.
You are 53% conservative and 47% liberal, you are a Centrist!
You believe in the power of the greater majority. As a centrist, you find yourself making compromises, and understand perspectives from both sides of the political spectrum. Certain issues sway you one direction; others, the opposite. In the end, you are not a radical, and hope to pave a way for a better America that pleases everyone.
Quote: billryanJust watched Dick Santorum suggest students would be better off learning CPR so they can help their wounded classmates than trying to stop future shooters.
“How about kids instead of looking to someone else to solve their problem, do something about maybe taking CPR classes or trying to deal with situations that when there is a violent shooter that you can actually respond to that,” Santorum said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”
A school district in Dicks state announced this week that it has stocked classrooms with barrels of rocks for students to throw at future shooters. The schools spokesman said that some of his students had really good arms and could be an effective deterrent.
It actually makes perfect sense to a sensible person. Chances they need to use CPR to save a life are going to be far higher than the chance of being in an active shooter situation. Probably hundreds of times higher. As to rocks, well, what do you expect from a liberal school administrator?
What's she looks like(the Dental Assistant)? Oh, NM, she is too old. (-:Quote: NathanThe senseless killing of a 15 year old Honor Student or a 35 year old Dental Assistant? I tend to be more outraged with the senseless killing of the 15 year old Honor Student than the 35 year old Dental Assistant myself.
I know, right? I was thinking the same thing, I was going to say, next I will be posting up my horoscope and fortune cookies for today.Quote: petroglyphAre you sure that wasn't your horoscope?
CPR works well on gunshot wounds? Who knew?Quote: AZDuffmanIt actually makes perfect sense to a sensible person. Chances they need to use CPR to save a life are going to be far higher than the chance of being in an active shooter situation. Probably hundreds of times higher. As to rocks, well, what do you expect from a liberal school administrator?
Quote: AxelWolfI got curiouse so I took one of them online tests. There were like 2 questions I had no idea who the people were they asked about, so I just avoided picking a female name(-;
Here is what it said.
You are 53% conservative and 47% liberal, you are a Centrist!
You believe in the power of the greater majority. As a centrist, you find yourself making compromises, and understand perspectives from both sides of the political spectrum. Certain issues sway you one direction; others, the opposite. In the end, you are not a radical, and hope to pave a way for a better America that pleases everyone.
Told ya. Lol. What's the link. I'll take it. I'm guessing 75% conservative for me.
ZCore13
Quote: AxelWolfCPR works well on gunshot wounds? Who knew?
Gunshots are the only medical emergency? Who knew?
Did you go to a really bad school where kids were shooting each other? Seems you are extra worried about gun wounds in schools. Where I went, we had at least one student collapse while I attended and might have needed CPR. As the average student could probably go to a school for 1,000 years without gun violence I would think prepping for the likely is the smarter answer.
Then again, I am a prepper, not an irrational alarmist.
because I regret writing this thread at least the way I stated it
it was too strong - too combative
if I offended anybody who is on the other side I apologize
I will think twice next time before I post something controversial
I hope you guys who are unhappy with what I wrote will accept my apology
