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March 23rd, 2018 at 7:21:30 AM permalink
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Hmmmm.... Doc, rdw4potus, beachbumbabs, MrV, PokerGrinder, and (can't even guess which) one of the locals. Did I come close? What about SOOPOO and Romes? (I'm just guessing that WoN is not on the list.)

As for True Lies, it might not be the kind of flick that you care for, but it does seem that you had success finding it on Netflix, unlike bbb. You might be amused by the extreme difference between the two "Simon" characters that led to this discussion in the first place.



I think Wiz has the DVD side. I only have streaming. Netflix used to tell you such and such a movie you searched for is only available by dvd. For.some.reason, they no longer do that.

I have not confirmed for Spring Fling. I have several issues with the weekend, including my mom's 85th birthday. I haven't totally ruled it out yet, because I really want to see you guys, but it's not looking good.
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March 23rd, 2018 at 7:34:23 AM permalink
BBB, I hope you are able to join us for the Spring Fling. If not, at least please wish your mom a happy birthday from me -- I enjoyed meeting her back in 2014.
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March 23rd, 2018 at 7:49:35 AM permalink
What better way to spend an 85th birthday than to spend a day with your daughters internet friends?
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March 23rd, 2018 at 7:51:47 AM permalink
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Names on the Spring Fling Email list so far: 6



Add me to the list although still just a maybe. My work schedule is the main issue, but secondary issue is the ridiculous high airfare, over $600 that weekend, not sure why, and also very high hotel prices.
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March 23rd, 2018 at 8:31:45 AM permalink
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3. All Stanley Kubrick movies since the movie 2001.



The Apollo moon landing was his greatest work followed by A Clockwork Orange.
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March 23rd, 2018 at 9:35:00 AM permalink
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Add me to the list although still just a maybe. My work schedule is the main issue, but secondary issue is the ridiculous high airfare, over $600 that weekend, not sure why, and also very high hotel prices.



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March 23rd, 2018 at 10:44:49 AM permalink
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The Apollo moon landing was his greatest work followed by A Clockwork Orange.



Some say the Apollo sweater Danny wore in The Shining was an inside joke about his faking of the moon landing coverage. So far, that is about the best evidence I've heard to support the notion.

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March 23rd, 2018 at 1:42:47 PM permalink
Is it just me or was the Netflix Marco Polo series really good?
Benedict Wong plays a great Kublai Khan.
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March 23rd, 2018 at 6:21:19 PM permalink
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Is it just me or was the Netflix Marco Polo series really good?
Benedict Wong plays a great Kublai Khan.


Are they making more episodes? It was really good in my opinion.
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March 23rd, 2018 at 6:45:33 PM permalink
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Are they making more episodes? It was really good in my opinion.

Supposedly. They were supposed to do a small series based on Hundred Eyes (the blind kung-fu master) I think they only made one teaser episode of that so far.

If you liked that you might also like The Admiral (I think its all subtitled but it's worth it).
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March 23rd, 2018 at 9:24:50 PM permalink
I will look for the Admiral. A Hundred Eyes series would be good. Have to get the wife on the hunt for this stuff. Thanks for bringing it up.
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April 17th, 2018 at 6:36:26 PM permalink
You can put me down on the email list. Who do i give my email to?
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April 17th, 2018 at 6:45:50 PM permalink
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Being an optimist in people knowing trivia questions is -EV, ax my wallet :(



I still can't believe niether Romes nor PG could name the author of Moby Dick.
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April 17th, 2018 at 6:47:34 PM permalink
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You can put me down on the email list. Who do I give my email to?

They will send you a Faxback form (-;

I fairly certain you just PM The Wizard.
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April 17th, 2018 at 6:56:08 PM permalink
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Some say the Apollo sweater Danny wore in The Shining was an inside joke about his faking of the moon landing coverage. So far, that is about the best evidence I've heard to support the notion.



Wiz, have you seen Room 237?

If not, slide it ahead of True Lies in that que.
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April 17th, 2018 at 8:09:59 PM permalink
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Wiz, have you seen Room 237?



Yes, I've seen it. I think that is where I learned of this sweater conspiracy theory.

I'm afraid True Lies has slid down on my queue, in favor of Westworld. I'm eagerly awaiting DVD #2 to show up in my mailbox.
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April 17th, 2018 at 8:12:34 PM permalink
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I still can't believe niether Romes nor PG could name the author of Moby Dick.


Why would I know that? I’ve never read the book.
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April 17th, 2018 at 8:18:59 PM permalink
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Why would I know that? I’ve never read the book.

He just assumed you and Romes knew a lot about anything to do with Dick.
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April 17th, 2018 at 8:30:08 PM permalink
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He just assumed you and Romes knew a lot about anything to do with Dick.


Haha oh I see. I thought you were Romes “buddy”.
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April 17th, 2018 at 8:56:40 PM permalink
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Why would I know that? I’ve never read the book.



Because, as one of the 5 or so most famous books in our language, it's a pretty low level general knowledge question and you are very smart guys who went to college. I didn't nec think you'd read it, but likely picked it up by osmosis.
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April 17th, 2018 at 9:15:27 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Because, as one of the 5 or so most famous books in our language, it's a pretty low level general knowledge question and you are very smart guys who went to college. I didn't nec think you'd read it, but likely picked it up by osmosis.



While the story was popular I think Moby Dick is what Melville is most popular for. I would say people are more familiar with Dickens, Clemens, and Hawthorne. I would take the no on a lot of people not knowing that. I would be way more apt to take the yes on The Adventure of Tom Sawyer author as an example.
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April 17th, 2018 at 9:41:12 PM permalink
I don’t actually “know” who wrote it, but I’m pretty sure it was Ernest Hemmingway (sp?). An educated guess?

I had to read that BS book in like 1 day because we had required reading over the summer. And I didn’t remember that, so read it on the last day of summer. :(

Also had to read The Count of Monte Cristo (anyone know the author off the top of their head?), but that book was ABSOLUTE trash. Half of it’s in French IIRC. I didn’t realize it was taking place in France (or somewhere like that?) for a few chapters. Once I figured that part out, I was like yeah, this is pure nonsense I’m not reading this s***!!!!


EDIT: I was thinking of The Old Man (in?) the Sea. I don’t think I’ve ever read Moby Dick. The one I read is the one where the dude is in the ocean and he catches a whale or some sh** and it takes him like 50 hours to reel it in. And he doesn’t even have a legit fishing pole, just fishing line around his hands. At least that’s what I remember.

Edit 2: Yeah, it was TOMATS that I read. Just finna hit up the googs on that one.
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April 17th, 2018 at 10:14:48 PM permalink
Moby Dick is real.

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April 18th, 2018 at 3:56:33 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Because, as one of the 5 or so most famous books in our language, it's a pretty low level general knowledge question and you are very smart guys who went to college. I didn't nec think you'd read it, but likely picked it up by osmosis.


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April 18th, 2018 at 5:13:40 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Because, as one of the 5 or so most famous books in our language, it's a pretty low level general knowledge question and you are very smart guys who went to college. I didn't nec think you'd read it, but likely picked it up by osmosis.


Lol I also went to college and I could have sworn it was Charles Dickens for some reason.

In our defense, Herman Melville was a bit of a one hit wonder.
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April 18th, 2018 at 5:57:16 AM permalink
Sorry, no, Melville also wrote Typee, Omoo and Billy Budd, among others, as significant observations of the human condition, and stories of the times . He's considered a master of literature.

Definitely a male-centric writer, though. He answers or describes certain questions about men and how they think, and what they care about, better than nearly anyone, ever.

I find him, and Hemingway, boring and difficult to read for the same reasons. He's not writing for me. My brother thinks both are among the best authors. Definitely a guy thing, IMO.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Budd
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April 18th, 2018 at 7:20:03 AM permalink
Quote: RS

I had to read that BS book in like 1 day because we had required reading over the summer. And I didn’t remember that, so read it on the last day of summer. :(
Edit 2: Yeah, it was TOMATS that I read. Just finna hit up the googs on that one.

Hey, I too am in the HIAD (Hemmingway in a Day) club, but for me it was A Farewell to Arms. I was a master procrastinator in High School. We had a month to read it, and of course I waited until the last minute to start.

BTW, I knew it wasn't Moby Dick you were talking about. Good luck reading that in one day! As it happens, I had to read that one as well for the same English class. I actually started well ahead of time. It took me a week to get through maybe a quarter of it. I don't think I made it 1/2 way through before I finally had to consult with Mr. Cliff.

Babs -- I think you are spot-on. Hemmingway and Melville wrote basically about war and fishing. Definitely "boy" subject matter.
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April 18th, 2018 at 7:56:49 AM permalink
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I think you are spot-on. Hemmingway and Melville wrote basically about war and fishing. Definitely "boy" subject matter.

Well, a good many women discover hunting and it seems fishing is even more popular with women. I read the excerpt wherein Hemmingway discusses throwing knives at waitresses in Fort Myers, FL and wonder how he was tolerated when drunk. I tend to thing about Hemmingway whenever I see those GEICO ads about the Running of the Bull Dogs in Pamplona. Though Mickey Spillane wrote a good deal about very masculine men being lured to their doom by skillful manipulative women and his "Hemmingway who?" comment was famous.

By the way, it was Andre Dumas who wrote the count of monte cristo though most kids these days know that because it was featured in the Shawshank Redemption.

Never did understand Billy Budd, Foretopman.

Even the short story by Elmore Leonard When The Girls Come Out To Play challenges me now.
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April 18th, 2018 at 8:03:03 AM permalink
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Well, a good many women discover hunting and it seems fishing is even more popular with women. I read the excerpt wherein Hemmingway discusses throwing knives at waitresses in Fort Myers, FL and wonder how he was tolerated when drunk. I tend to thing about Hemmingway whenever I see those GEICO ads about the Running of the Bull Dogs in Pamplona. Though Mickey Spillane wrote a good deal about very masculine men being lured to their doom by skillful manipulative women and his "Hemmingway who?" comment was famous.

By the way, it was Andre Dumas who wrote the count of monte cristo though most kids these days know that because it was featured in the Shawshank Redemption.



Yeah, Alexander Dumas Jr, actually. Found him at age 12 and read everything twice. Great stuff.

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Probably some other stuff, but those are the ones I loved..Most of the movies didn't do them justice, tho MITIM with DeCarlo (I think) came close.
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April 18th, 2018 at 11:54:53 AM permalink
Can we get back to the REAL interesting bet that Axel made with the Wiz about our German accented dealer named Klaus, and how the bet was on whether or not this german man would know the capitol of germany?

Quote: Rigondeaux

I still can't believe niether Romes nor PG could name the author of Moby Dick.

Hey, I've never read the book! =p
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Why would I know that? I’ve never read the book.

Exactly!
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He just assumed you and Romes knew a lot about anything to do with Dick.

I... ugh... okay credit where credit is due, that even made me laugh.
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Haha oh I see. I thought you were Romes “buddy”.

What, a guy can't have more than one buddy?!?!
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April 18th, 2018 at 12:13:37 PM permalink
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Can we get back to the REAL interesting bet that Axel made with the Wiz about our German accented dealer named Klaus, and how the bet was on whether or not this german man would know the capitol of germany?

Hey, I've never read the book! =p
Exactly!
I... ugh... okay credit where credit is due, that even made me laugh.What, a guy can't have more than one buddy?!?!


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April 18th, 2018 at 12:40:49 PM permalink
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You cheating on me?

And what, you're just "cuddling" with different people in all those other countries?
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April 18th, 2018 at 1:20:29 PM permalink
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And what, you're just "cuddling" with different people in all those other countries?


... of course?!?
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April 18th, 2018 at 6:38:56 PM permalink
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By the way, it was Andre Dumas who wrote the count of monte cristo though most kids these days know that because it was featured in the Shawshank Redemption.


I actually just watched Shawshank Redemption for the first time about 2-3 months. As soon as they got to that scene (after he says "The Count of Monte Crisco [sic]", I knew they were going to make a joke out of his last name being "dumbass" somehow....and sure enough, they did. I felt like a fortune teller or something.


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April 18th, 2018 at 8:47:32 PM permalink
I have had a couple requests by PM to attend the Spring Fling by members who work in Vegas casinos.

Are there any objections to them attending by those planning to go?
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April 18th, 2018 at 9:03:00 PM permalink
No objections at all from me. I can think of three (maybe four) attendees at previous gatherings who worked (or had worked) for Vegas casinos. The only problem, which I became aware of much later, derived from one of the group photos that I posted here. (And no, I am not referring to that photo.)
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April 18th, 2018 at 9:26:25 PM permalink
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I have had a couple requests by PM to attend the Spring Fling by members who work in Vegas casinos.

Are there any objections to them attending by those planning to go?



What casinos?
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April 18th, 2018 at 9:31:50 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I have had a couple requests by PM to attend the Spring Fling by members who work in Vegas casinos.

Are there any objections to them attending by those planning to go?



As far as I'm concerned, not really, but I guess it would depend on what they did in the casino. I certainly wouldn't want to find out someone was working here in Vegas in a management position dealing with gambling. Especially, if I was unaware of that.

I would wonder a little if they were fairly new members.

It would be nice to know what they did and what casino they worked for.
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April 18th, 2018 at 9:35:09 PM permalink
I think at that point I would have to bow out. I have too much at stake to take any chances. As Axel pointed out it really depends.
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April 18th, 2018 at 9:39:09 PM permalink
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April 18th, 2018 at 9:41:08 PM permalink
Neither are very active members. I'm not sure if I'm at liberty to say the casinos. I will let either of them announce themselves here, if they wish.
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April 18th, 2018 at 9:45:16 PM permalink
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I have had a couple requests by PM to attend the Spring Fling by members who work in Vegas casinos.

Are there any objections to them attending by those planning to go?



Blame PokerGrinder. He invited me. Haha

Unless you guys are planning an Oceans 11, I'm confused on why it would even matter.

I guess I'll have to read into the previous spring flings and happenings at it. Unless someone can PM me a good summary.
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April 18th, 2018 at 9:47:59 PM permalink
MaxPen haven’t we had casino workers at the last couple of meet ups? As far as GlenG I don’t think a craps dealer is going to cause problems but then again I’m not an AP that worries about being seen.

I post pictures of myself online (Romes and Axel keep it PG) so everyone knows what I look like.
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April 18th, 2018 at 9:55:28 PM permalink
Who is the other one?
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April 18th, 2018 at 9:55:47 PM permalink
Even though I rarely AP anymore, this reason is why I would not go to these gatherings. Same with others like Max Rubin's blackjack ball or any other gathering where casino personnel are present.
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April 18th, 2018 at 9:59:50 PM permalink
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Blame PokerGrinder. He invited me. Haha

Unless you guys are planning an Oceans 11, I'm confused on why it would even matter.

I guess I'll have to read into the previous spring flings and happenings at it. Unless someone can PM me a good summary.

I was going to mention your name since personally I think you are fine. I didn't want to keep mentioning you work at a casino and what you did.
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April 18th, 2018 at 10:09:30 PM permalink
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MaxPen haven’t we had casino workers at the last couple of meet ups? As far as GlenG I don’t think a craps dealer is going to cause problems but then again I’m not an AP that worries about being seen.

I post pictures of myself online (Romes and Axel keep it PG) so everyone knows what I look like.

I'm not sure how much of your income comes from Poker and machine sniping. If one or both of them are your main gig, then I think you should be fine for the most part. It's when you start to play other things like promotions, progressives, big mail and various other things that the casinos start getting very jumpy about.

The chances might be small that anything happens as a result of a WOV meetup but Let's not forget that many casinos are owned by the same company. A small chance could cost an AP a significant amount.

Lets also not forget that there could be someone who's a dealer now but at some point, they may be more than a dealer.


Crack out the non-disclosure agreements.
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April 18th, 2018 at 10:25:39 PM permalink
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I'm not sure how much of your income comes from Poker and machine sniping. If one or both of them are your main gig, then I think you should be fine for the most part. It's when you start to play other things like promotions, progressives, big mail and various other things that the casinos start getting very jumpy about.

The chances might be small that anything happens as a result of a WOV meetup but Let's not forget that many casinos are owned by the same company. A small chance could cost an AP a significant amount.

Lets also not forget that there could be someone who's a dealer now but at some point, they may be more than a dealer.


Crack out the non-disclosure agreements.


I don’t do anything except poker and machine sniping, I’ve never gotten into the other forms of AP much. I totally get why people here would be worried, Glen doesn’t worry me personally but I might not be on the lookout as much as you guys.
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April 19th, 2018 at 3:23:00 AM permalink
I don’t think anyone should have to say where they work, if they work for a casino, but attendees should definitely be made aware of WHO works at a casino and WHAT they do (dealer, cocktail waitress, surveillance, etc.). Best IMO not to mention where they work, at least I wouldn’t publicly say that.

For the record I used to be a dealer.
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April 19th, 2018 at 4:10:44 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf


The chances might be small that anything happens as a result of a WOV meetup but Let's not forget that many casinos are owned by the same company. A small chance could cost an AP a significant amount.

Lets also not forget that there could be someone who's a dealer now but at some point, they may be more than a dealer.


Crack out the non-disclosure agreements.




I'm still kinda confused on this...worst case scenario, what would I even do? And why? It's not like they put bounties out on AP
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