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January 23rd, 2018 at 8:27:52 AM permalink
It's getting toward mid-winter, when thoughts turn to spring and WoVCon.

Any suggestions as to where, when or even if it should be held this year?

Is there sufficient interest anymore to warrant having a spring time get together in Las Vegas?
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January 23rd, 2018 at 9:06:58 AM permalink
We had a good turnout last year in the spring. I can’t see why it wouldn’t happen again this year.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 3:15:45 PM permalink
I'd most likely be game. Maybe with Mrs rdw, though she (mercifully?) doesn't like Vegas much. April and may usually work best for me.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 5:33:25 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

I'd most likely be game. Maybe with Mrs rdw, though she (mercifully?) doesn't like Vegas much. April and may usually work best for me.



How is that even possible.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 6:44:56 PM permalink
I'll be around the whole spring so anytime is fine with me.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 9:50:54 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

It's getting toward mid-winter, when thoughts turn to spring and WoVCon.

BTW, while the first three such gatherings were referred to as WoVCon, WoVCon ][, and WoVCon ]I[ (or sometimes WoVCon ///), since 2014 we have been calling them "Spring Fling 201x", with or without a preceding "WoV" and with the x being 4, 5, 6, or 7.

Now with that nerdy introductory remark out of the way, I want to say that I look forward to the chance to join the group again this year for Spring Fling 2018. My wife and I had to cancel out at the last moment last year, which was the only spring gathering I have missed. I don't want to miss out again.

However, we do have a commitment that might result in a conflict. We have booked a cruise already, departing Fort Lauderdale on April 22 with debarkation in Copenhagen on May 10. We do not have definite post-cruise plans set yet, but we might spend a night or two in Denmark before flying home. Following that cruise, I doubt we will be able to handle a trip to Las Vegas any earlier than about the 3rd weekend of May (19th & 20th). On the other hand, if folks are interested in an early event this year, a pre-cruise Spring Fling might be possible for us, provided we have a little post-fling time back home to get ready to sail.

And No, rdw4potus, we did not book this cruise just to conflict with the dates that are most convenient for you to fling in Vegas. Why don't you and the Mrs. consider cruising to Denmark with us?
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January 25th, 2018 at 9:13:14 AM permalink
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, but we might spend a night or two in Denmark before flying home.

I do hope you will be able to make it to Spring Fling but if you will be staying a few nights in Copenhagen, their largest hostel will be serving some special breakfasts in addition to their full English and Continental breakfasts: muffins with apple, apricot and almonds made using flour ground out of worms; baked wax moth larvae with paprika; and grasshoppers prepared with lime.
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January 25th, 2018 at 9:43:31 AM permalink
Ahhh, spring time, better weather, Trivia questions (especially to germans about germany... Klaus), and Axel donating money on the poker tables... No way I could miss that. So long as we nail a date down in the next month or two I should be able to attend. I'm find with an end of May time frame, since Doc through out that might work best for him and no one else has posted too many restrictions as of yet.
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January 25th, 2018 at 11:34:22 AM permalink
late May works for me. I'd actually be OK with the Memorial Day holiday weekend. But that might pose conflicts or cost issues for some (and maybe access issues at 777 on saturday, assuming we'd look to do that again)
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January 25th, 2018 at 11:40:45 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

... their largest hostel will be serving some special breakfasts ....


I suspect you may be making Copenhagen sound far too tempting to PokerGrinder.
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January 25th, 2018 at 12:34:21 PM permalink
May is wide open for me at this point.
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January 25th, 2018 at 12:56:17 PM permalink
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May is wide open for me at this point.

That's what she said.
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January 25th, 2018 at 1:22:05 PM permalink
I’m already booked for 5/27 thru 5/31 for 360 Vegas Vacation which is 5/27 thru 5/29.
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January 26th, 2018 at 6:53:16 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

BTW, while the first three such gatherings were referred to as WoVCon, WoVCon ][, and WoVCon ]I[ (or sometimes WoVCon ///), since 2014 we have been calling them "Spring Fling 201x", with or without a preceding "WoV" and with the x being 4, 5, 6, or 7.

Now with that nerdy introductory remark out of the way, I want to say that I look forward to the chance to join the group again this year for Spring Fling 2018. My wife and I had to cancel out at the last moment last year, which was the only spring gathering I have missed. I don't want to miss out again.

However, we do have a commitment that might result in a conflict. We have booked a cruise already, departing Fort Lauderdale on April 22 with debarkation in Copenhagen on May 10. We do not have definite post-cruise plans set yet, but we might spend a night or two in Denmark before flying home. Following that cruise, I doubt we will be able to handle a trip to Las Vegas any earlier than about the 3rd weekend of May (19th & 20th). On the other hand, if folks are interested in an early event this year, a pre-cruise Spring Fling might be possible for us, provided we have a little post-fling time back home to get ready to sail.

And No, rdw4potus, we did not book this cruise just to conflict with the dates that are most convenient for you to fling in Vegas. Why don't you and the Mrs. consider cruising to Denmark with us?



We really should consider a WoV cruise event.

Anyway, you might look hard at Icelandair for the return flight, with a stay over in Reykjavik. They're very cheap right now, and they build in the overnight so you can see a little of their country. I only had about 4 hours there, and it was not enough. But the airline could not have been better in all respects.
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January 26th, 2018 at 7:27:50 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

BTW, while the first three such gatherings were referred to as WoVCon, WoVCon ][, and WoVCon ]I[ (or sometimes WoVCon ///), since 2014 we have been calling them "Spring Fling 201x", with or without a preceding "WoV" and with the x being 4, 5, 6, or 7.



No worries.

Could a mod please change the title of this thread to "Spring Fling 2018?"
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January 26th, 2018 at 8:22:14 PM permalink
I actually just missed it last year and my sojourn into LAS is in early June this year (first week). That and a weekend in early March which is technically not spring.
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January 26th, 2018 at 8:28:25 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Could a mod please change the title of this thread to "Spring Fling 2018?"



None.

I'm good with late May. I accept belated birthday presents too.
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January 26th, 2018 at 10:16:27 PM permalink
Late may would work well for me too. I’m going to need some recovery time once I get home from Asia before I want to travel again.
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January 26th, 2018 at 11:00:08 PM permalink
I should be able to make it.
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January 31st, 2018 at 6:38:30 AM permalink
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I suspect you may be making Copenhagen sound far too tempting to PokerGrinder.

Perhaps, but I hope that you and Mrs.Doc might be interested in exploring European hostels. If so, that hostel I mentioned has three separate facilities in Copenhagen, each will be serving the special low carbon impact breakfasts. The hostels are well located and super clean, friendly places.
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January 31st, 2018 at 2:11:21 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

We really should consider a WoV cruise event.



https://www.888casino.com/blog/casino-tips/the-best-casino-cruise-ships
A bit out of date.

Anyone know if that Panama Canal cruise with the daily lectures on the plants that we use in cocktails still operates. I think the lecturer was named Amy Stewart. Booze and Craps Games. Who could ask for anything more?
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February 3rd, 2018 at 3:01:52 PM permalink
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We really should consider a WoV cruise event.

Careful. Those 50 passengers on the burned casino boat are limited to a total recovery fund of $23,700.00 since there was an international destination and maritime law applies to all passengers including the woman who died.
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February 3rd, 2018 at 4:39:10 PM permalink
I might just POP in if I am around.
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February 3rd, 2018 at 4:40:16 PM permalink
One question though. Are suspended or banned member welcome/allowed???
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February 3rd, 2018 at 6:12:58 PM permalink
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One question though. Are suspended or banned member welcome/allowed???



Yes. I attended one while suspended. And, Ahigh has joined us a couple times.
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March 6th, 2018 at 7:41:40 AM permalink
This thread has been silent for just over a month, but it appeared that we were reaching some agreement for the 2018 Spring Fling to be held some time in late May. I typically find it best (in terms of pricing) to start looking for flight reservations 2 or 2.5 months ahead of time and maybe lodging not too far after that, so now seems to be time to start getting serious.

Can we settle on a weekend now? I assume we will repeat past plans at least to the point of having the "official" gathering on a Saturday, with possibly other events on Friday evening or even Thursday. I think the candidate Saturdays are 5/19 and 5/26 with the latter one being the start of Memorial Day weekend. I haven't yet looked at whether airline fares or room rates might spike for that.

Do we need a separate poll thread for this issue, or can we discuss it here and reach a consensus?
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March 6th, 2018 at 8:17:53 AM permalink
I vote 5/19
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March 6th, 2018 at 9:16:04 AM permalink
I too vote 5/19
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March 6th, 2018 at 9:18:48 AM permalink
Will there be feats of strength? Airing of grievances?
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March 6th, 2018 at 9:48:32 AM permalink
5/19 sounds good to me. Should be easier/cheaper to find rooms than on the holiday weekend.
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March 6th, 2018 at 3:31:11 PM permalink
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Will there be feats of strength? Airing of grievances?


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March 6th, 2018 at 3:36:51 PM permalink
Let's find time for Monopoly.
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March 6th, 2018 at 5:13:38 PM permalink
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Let's find time for Monopoly.



I would fly in for a cash monopoly game.

Btw without hijacking too bad, is there any strategy to monopoly. I always just buy everything that I can and build hotels as quickly as well. I have played against people who land on things but don't buy.
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March 6th, 2018 at 7:42:33 PM permalink
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I would fly in for a cash monopoly game.

Btw without hijacking too bad, is there any strategy to monopoly. I always just buy everything that I can and build hotels as quickly as well. I have played against people who land on things but don't buy.



1. Get a monopoly asap. Any monopoly.
2. Get another monopoly. Any monopoly.
3. Build houses, never hotels.
4. Grind the housing shortage to a win.
5. Find new friends.
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March 6th, 2018 at 7:44:12 PM permalink
Are we good for the 19th? Airfare is crazy low and I'd like to lock it down soon.
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March 6th, 2018 at 7:51:57 PM permalink
Spring Fling or w/e is 2.5 months away? Damn.

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March 6th, 2018 at 9:03:26 PM permalink
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March 7th, 2018 at 6:49:51 AM permalink
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Are we good for the 19th? Airfare is crazy low and I'd like to lock it down soon.

Back in January, the Wizard initially said, "May is wide open for me at this point," and followed that the next day with, "I'm good with late May." However, he has not spoken up again since I re-activated the thread, and I would like to be certain that he is available that weekend (5/19) before I buy plane tickets.

My wife and I also prefer the weekend of 5/19 to the following one, even though we will only have been back from an 18-night trip out of the country for four or five days before flying out to Las Vegas. Our full-time jobs are "having fun" and "having fun", but too much travel back-to-back can make such a job seem like work. ;-)
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March 7th, 2018 at 8:29:02 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

1. Get a monopoly asap. Any monopoly.
2. Get another monopoly. Any monopoly.
3. Build houses, never hotels.
4. Grind the housing shortage to a win.
5. Find new friends.



WOW I have never thought about making a shortage on houses. I always go right for a hotel. There are only 32 houses so if you get a monopoly and put 4 on each then you are taking away half of the houses.
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March 7th, 2018 at 9:00:41 AM permalink
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WOW I have never thought about making a shortage on houses. I always go right for a hotel. There are only 32 houses so if you get a monopoly and put 4 on each then you are taking away half of the houses.

And opponents can't lopsided build... i.e. to get to a hotel they MUST have 4 houses on EVERY property first.
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March 7th, 2018 at 9:04:21 AM permalink
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And opponents can't lopsided build... i.e. to get to a hotel they MUST have 4 houses on EVERY property first.



We allow them to buy a hotel if they can afford one per property.
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March 7th, 2018 at 10:36:27 AM permalink
I have a 50% chance to make May 19. Same for May 26.
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March 7th, 2018 at 11:29:50 AM permalink
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I too vote 5/19

You two guys already had a date set up for that time I bet.

And no, Romes not jelly.
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March 7th, 2018 at 11:31:00 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Are we good for the 19th? Airfare is crazy low and I'd like to lock it down soon.

So lock down your airfare and if Spring Fling is indeed changed to a later date, make BOTH trips.
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March 7th, 2018 at 11:31:54 AM permalink
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We should have a marathon gaming challenge. I once played poker for 36 straight hours, only left the table to go to the bathroom.

I got you beat, I never went to the restroom and never stopped drinking.
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March 7th, 2018 at 11:34:52 AM permalink
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I got you beat I never went to the restroom and never stopped drinking.

Did you win?

PS: you'd be real good on a stakeout.
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March 7th, 2018 at 11:42:41 AM permalink
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Did you win?

PS: you'd be real good on a stakeout.

Amazingly enough I did, I was running over the table the entire time, it was a 1-2 NL started out with $300. I was up 3k when I finally left. There are a few dealers and floor personnel that will confirm.

I doubt I would last 36 hours now, I would probably fall asleep.

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March 7th, 2018 at 2:52:54 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

You two guys already had a date set up for that time I bet.

And no, Romes not jelly.

I dunno, that's an awfully lot of toast you're holding...

Are we "basically" settled on the 19th then? I think perhaps we're just waiting for Mike to confirm that works for him too?
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March 7th, 2018 at 3:35:48 PM permalink
Is Mike unicycling the Great Wall this week ?
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March 7th, 2018 at 3:47:08 PM permalink
It's funny how perspective changes. 7 years ago I flew to Vegas for 600 round trip and thought I got a great deal. My last 4 trips have been 46, 72, 46, and 109 round trip. I wanted to come to the spring fling for the weekend and it would cost $164 round trip and I consider that too expensive.
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