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November 28th, 2016 at 3:13:34 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

Let's consider you or a loved one being the victim of a rape by an illegal alien. He is not tried or convicted, he just gets deported. Is that how we should treat the victims of a crime that we used to believe was worthy of the death penalty? I'm sorry...it is one of the worst acts one can commit (or endure, if the victim) short of murder.

Let them serve their time and then send them back where they came from. We owe the victim that.



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November 28th, 2016 at 3:15:02 PM permalink
Quote: rainman

Everybody is a bad ass when someone else is pulling the trigger.


Old men declare war.

Then they send young men out to fight the war.
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November 28th, 2016 at 3:20:37 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Good people don't smoke pot. Nuff said.




What type of idiotic generalization is this??? Deleted.
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November 28th, 2016 at 3:25:26 PM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

There's essentially no such thing as a "nonviolent offender", not in California prisons anyway. You don't know what you're talking about.




Are you from California? Do you have personal experience or did you work for with the California State Prison System? Do you have records of all inmates in a California State Prison? I find it incredible that you believe there are no nonviolent offenders in prison. Please, go visit a California state prison and see who is REALLY in there, because many people, especially people of color and minorities are in prison for non-violent offenses, such as distribution of marijuana
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November 28th, 2016 at 3:32:26 PM permalink
Conservatives don't want to deal with the issue of substance misuse disorders. They think they can kick everyone out, lock everyone up, and the problem will go away. I challenge anyone who voted for Trump to reply with a comment of a PERSONAL instance where they had to A. Deal with a Violent Illegal Immigrant. B. Deal with an ISIS affiliate.


I know that logic, math, science, are difficult concepts for some people, but these things DONT CARE what YOU believe in.

The facts are the same. 95% of ISIS's victims ARE MUSLIMS. The vast majority of "Illegal Immigrants" are nonviolent, hard working people with families they want to support and feed.

You, me, and EVERYONE is an Illegal Immigrant. White People killed, abused, and took advantage of Native Americans from the moment we landed in America.

Believe what you want to believe, but I stand and say that if you choose Ignorance and Bias over Science and Truth, YOU are the real one that needs to leave this Democracy.
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November 28th, 2016 at 3:34:12 PM permalink
"Funny, burglaries, etc., are up everywhere. Guess it's just a coincidence." Cite your source
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November 28th, 2016 at 3:49:16 PM permalink
Quote: CasinoKiller

"Funny, burglaries, etc., are up everywhere. Guess it's just a coincidence." Cite your source



Bob does NOT do that. He's insulted that you even ask. Take everything he says completely at face value and without any proof, the way you're supposed to!

He also probably doesn't understand that most pairs of events that happen at the same time ARE, in fact, coincidences--in that correlation does not imply causation. If "burglaries, etc." ARE "up everywhere" (an idiotically worded generalization), that doesn't mean that recent releases of convicted felons from prison are the cause. A tiny-brained person might think that (seeing some kind of vague connection), but in reality, crime rates are due to any one or more of dozens of related factors.

It's kind of silly to think that the first thing a person will do when released from prison is go on a crime spree. It's thinking like that that keeps prisons overcrowded.
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November 28th, 2016 at 5:18:34 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

This is a little bit wide of the subject but I recently saw a documentary about a high ranking Corrections Officer in Texas whose job it was to "put down" criminals. I'm pretty sure Texas executes way more people than any other state. He struggled with what he was doing but he managed. Then one day he was told he had to execute a woman. He told his boss that he couldn't do it. They fired him. He became emotionally unbalanced and lost everything. They wouldn't pay him his pension. I guess it's real different when its up close and personal like that.




I don't take it lightly. A human life is the most serious thing there is. But it is the people on Death Row who have FORCED society to do this to them. They leave us no choice. I wish that NO ONE had to be put to death. I also wish that animals would not kidnap and rape and murder and commit all kinds of horrible acts. When they do that, they leave Society no choice in my opinion. They need to give up their life. Would I want to pull the switch or witness an execution? Heck no. Unless it was personal. But it has to be done. And yes, Texas does not keep people on Death Row for 26 years like California does. Texas don't fk around. We have over 700 people on The Row in California. There are three sections in SQ. Richard Allen, the monster who killed that little girl in Petaluma has been waiting 23 years. KILL HIM ALREADY! Kill him for Polly.
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November 28th, 2016 at 5:28:17 PM permalink
Quote: CasinoKiller

"Funny, burglaries, etc., are up everywhere. Guess it's just a coincidence." Cite your source



Cite my source? I live here. Wtf do you think you're talking to? I live here, I work here, I listen to radio, I read the newspaper. Property crime is UP. I believe it was Prop 47, not this last election but the one before that, changed "wobblers" to misdemeanors and cut a lot of dudes out on the street. A wobbler is a crime that can be either a misd or felony, like ROBBERY, and they automatically got reviewed for consideration of letting them out. Thousands have been released. Then there was the 3-judge court releasing people because of overcrowding. I followed this very closely because one of my closest friends was subject to qualifying. He had four years left on an 11 years sentence and they cut him loose four months ago. He qualified as "non-violent". I've known him since we were both doing crime and time when we were teens. He has been in Soledad, Folsom, Chino, Blythe, Calipatria, and he has robbed and assaulted people ALL OF HIS LIFE. I'm glad they let him out because he is my friend, but their classification of "non-violent" is all BS.

Cite my source? That's my freaking source. The local newspaper and the 6:00 o'clock news. What's YOUR source?
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November 28th, 2016 at 5:37:05 PM permalink
Quote: Joeshlabotnik

Bob does NOT do that. He's insulted that you even ask. Take everything he says completely at face value and without any proof, the way you're supposed to!

He also probably doesn't understand that most pairs of events that happen at the same time ARE, in fact, coincidences--in that correlation does not imply causation. If "burglaries, etc." ARE "up everywhere" (an idiotically worded generalization), that doesn't mean that recent releases of convicted felons from prison are the cause. A tiny-brained person might think that (seeing some kind of vague connection), but in reality, crime rates are due to any one or more of dozens of related factors.

It's kind of silly to think that the first thing a person will do when released from prison is go on a crime spree. It's thinking like that that keeps prisons overcrowded.




You don't even know how many dudes walk away from the release center. They just did a nickel, get released to pre-release, with like 60 days to go, and they JUMP. They can't help themselves. They can't wait to light up. You don't know wtf you're talking about.

And look who's talking. You say I don't cite my sources, while you apparently are just spouting off from your own mouth. Cite YOUR sources. Try "Prop 47" and "3-judge court overcrowding".
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