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Quote: TigerWuHe's got metric bones.
Canadian jokes never get old. At least for people not in canada
Quote: rxwineI don't have a lot of faith in the safety of exposure to just about anything emitting anything. But I feel much better if it takes constant exposure and decades before you have a real problem.
Not great, not terrible.
Toddler size child falls out open window 50 stories from open cruise ship window to death.
Open window was in a playroom.
Toddler wasn't big enough to get near the window but grandfather sat her up near the open window because he thought it was closed.
Family says a window shouldn't be open in a playroom.
Would you award for the family?
Quote: rxwineHow would you decide this actual case in the news if you were on a jury.
Toddler size child falls out open window 50 stories from open cruise ship window to death.
Open window was in a playroom.
Toddler wasn't big enough to get near the window but grandfather sat her up near the open window because he thought it was closed.
Family says a window shouldn't be open in a playroom.
Would you award for the family?
on a jury I would not award anything. I feel people should take responsibility for themselves. Probably another passenger unlocked it.
If I was the family I would be suing and hope I didn't get me on the jury.
Quote: rxwine<snip>Toddler size child falls out open window 50 stories from open cruise ship window to death.<snip>
rxwine,
50 stories? Roughly 500 feet??? How tall is this cruise ship? ;-)
Dog Hand
Quote: DogHandrxwine,
50 stories? Roughly 500 feet??? How tall is this cruise ship? ;-)
Dog Hand
er 5. sorry. (fortunately I'm not a banker)
Quote: billryanI detest mariachi music and dislike most heavy metal so when I was "invited" to see Metalchi, the world's only heavy metal mariachi band, my expectations were pretty low.
Now, it may just have been the animal tranqs or possibly the worm that did it, but some twenty minutes later, I had just experienced the finest two hour concert I've seen in years.
In all seriousness, I can't think of a more fun concert I have ever attended. From the opening strains of Crazy Train to an "Acapulco" version of Sweet Child of Mine, the brothers from Juarez display amazing talent, perfectly blending traditional mariachi with heavy metal riffs, superior musicianship, and impeccable comedic timing. That their violin playing sister seemingly paints her pants on simply adds to the mystique.
They do a weird riff on Bohemian Rhapsody. Sort of Pentatonix meets The Road Warriors.
It shouldn't work, and yet it does.
Metalchi plays small clubs, festivals and colleges throughout the South West. Catch them before someone bottles their magic.
https://youtu.be/bCcdOV7mlEg?t=65
That has to be a Saturday Night Live sketch...no other explanation.
Quote: rxwineHow would you decide this actual case in the news if you were on a jury.
Toddler size child falls out open window 50 stories from open cruise ship window to death.
Open window was in a playroom.
Toddler wasn't big enough to get near the window but grandfather sat her up near the open window because he thought it was closed.
Family says a window shouldn't be open in a playroom.
Would you award for the family?
Based on what I know now, and what cruise ship passage contracts say about indemnification, it's 100% on the grandfather. But the CCC tape could tell a different story than what we know now.
Facts :
They were in a designated child play area, 11 decks up.
The 18 mo. old fell 150 feet to the concrete pier in SanJuan.
The child liked to lean on and bang on big glass windows, specifically while her older brother was playing hockey.
The grandfather lifted her up there on a railing so she could do that.
She leaned into the glass but it wasn't there and went out.
Conclusions :
The railing was there to keep kids or whoever from bouncing off the glass or going out an open window. It was not a step. The grandfather violated the boundaries and safe comportment of the guests, which I'm sure is covered in their passage contract.
What a sad situation, but what an idiot. I can't imagine winning that lawsuit, or even suing. Hope they will get over their grief enough to come to their senses and not move forward.
There have been a remarkable number of cruise ship deaths this year. RCI really doesn't need this publicity, especially since they're going to have to say no. I can see them settling for some undisclosed amount, as hostages to the ugly reports, but I don't think they're going to be liable.
Quote: RSThat has to be a Saturday Night Live sketch...no other explanation.
No. Check out YouTube. They play Vegas every couple of months and put on a fantastic show.
Every time I go to Europe I'm just amazed at all the things I see that would be some kind of severe safety violation or a guaranteed lawsuit here in the States, but over there no one cares, or they're like, "Hey, if you fall off this 13th century staircase, that's on you. Just don't be an idiot and you'll probably be fine." Still saw some pretty dangerous stuff, though, even if you WEREN'T acting like an idiot.
Quote: beachbumbabsBased on what I know now, and what cruise ship passage contracts say about indemnification, it's 100% on the grandfather. But the CCC tape could tell a different story than what we know now.
Facts :
They were in a designated child play area, 11 decks up.
The 18 mo. old fell 150 feet to the concrete pier in SanJuan.
The child liked to lean on and bang on big glass windows, specifically while her older brother was playing hockey.
The grandfather lifted her up there on a railing so she could do that.
She leaned into the glass but it wasn't there and went out.
Conclusions :
The railing was there to keep kids or whoever from bouncing off the glass or going out an open window. It was not a step. The grandfather violated the boundaries and safe comportment of the guests, which I'm sure is covered in their passage contract.
What a sad situation, but what an idiot. I can't imagine winning that lawsuit, or even suing. Hope they will get over their grief enough to come to their senses and not move forward.
There have been a remarkable number of cruise ship deaths this year. RCI really doesn't need this publicity, especially since they're going to have to say no. I can see them settling for some undisclosed amount, as hostages to the ugly reports, but I don't think they're going to be liable.
Although it is definitely his fault It is just an accident. Something similar happened a few years ago around here. They sued and ended up settling for an undisclosed amount. It was all over the news for a long time. We ended up losing the dogs over this. The area is like a large deck that extends into their area and sits maybe 15 feet off the ground.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/parents-of-2-year-old-mauled-by-wild-dogs-settle-pittsburgh-zoo-lawsuit/
Accidents are just accidents, although they generally happen when something is being done that probably shouldnt be done. We always just assume that we can control the situations which most of the time we can. I can count a few situations that I have been in with my kids that looking back I probably shouldnt have been in but at the time they seemed completely ok.
Quote: billryanIt's been a few years since I was on a cruise, but windows don't usually open on ships. It used to be a big thing to even have a potholes, but now most outside cabins seem to have patios.
I have never seen a ship with potholes. Wouldn't all the old people with walkers and wheel chairs have problems?
I have been on many ships with port hole windows and balconies.
Quote:Bed Bath & Beyond, once a leader in kitchenware and bedding, is in free fall. It is racing to win back customers and salvage its brand before the pressures of modern retailing cave in.
Where am I going to get my "beyond!!?"
Stock has fallen 90% in 5 years.
Quote: rxwineWhere am I going to get my "beyond!!?"
Stock has fallen 90% in 5 years.
You should have purchased Macy's. The value of their real estate alone, is worth more than three times their market value, and they offer a 7.1% dividend.
Currently trading at only 6 times earnings.
Quote: TankoYou should have purchased Macy's. The value of their real estate alone, is worth more than three times their market value, and they offer a 7.1% dividend.
Currently trading at only 6 times earnings.
stock price down 42% since 1 year ago
https://www.thebalancesmb.com/macys-store-closings-2892434
article dated July 10, 2019
Ha! I had a friend that used to make his check payable to "Cocks Cable" instead of "Cox Cable" because of how they treated him. They still cashed the checks.Quote: AxelWolf245.4 Mbps is sweet even though I hate all cox but my own.
Here, the only choices are Xfinity or AT&T. Kind of like having the choice of a firing squad or the electric chair.
Quote: rxwineWhere am I going to get my "beyond!!?"
Stock has fallen 90% in 5 years.
In this day and age I think BB&B is overextending themselves. The only reason I ever go in there is for kitchen supplies. That's about all they're good for. Everything else like bedding and towels and furniture can be gotten cheaper elsewhere. I think if they want to succeed they should pivot to just being a kitchen store.
Quote: FleaStiffcompete with SonomaWilliams?
That would be their only "competition," and Williams Sonoma is more high-end anyway, so BB&B would be going after a different demographic.
Quote: TigerWuThat would be their only "competition," and Williams Sonoma is more high-end anyway, so BB&B would be going after a different demographic.
What about Crate and Barrel or even Ikea?
Quote: AyecarumbaWhat about Crate and Barrel or even Ikea?
Maybe they're competitors, but BB&B has way more locations than those places, so they still have the advantage.
Crate and Barrel are D3s working Hollywood Homicide under Lieutenant "LT" Billets.
Anyone want to quests how many actually show up? 5,000?
Quote: billryan9-20. Storm Area 51.
Anyone want to quests how many actually show up? 5,000?
Good luck with that.😂
We really dropped the ball in that election IMO.
Imagine what this country would look like today if, for the past 30 years, Reps had been people like Perot and Paul and Dems had been people like Sanders. Instead of two hives of psychopaths selling off our resources and people to the highest bidder while they distract us with identity politics.
Fun fact. Perot and Sanders were kind of buddies, evidently. Ross gave him a giant sword as a thank you for fighting for healthcare for vets. He told him to use it on the press.
Quote: MaxPenI liked Perot's charts.
We rented computer time from EDS many many years ago.
Quote: DRichWe rented computer time from EDS many many years ago.
They were the only game in town for quite some time.
Quote: billryan9-20. Storm Area 51.
Anyone want to quests how many actually show up? 5,000?
Not even that many. Probably 300-500 hardcore conspiracy theorists and a handful of tourists. There'll be some guys with bullhorns shouting, some people with signs, most people are just going to hang out to see if anything crazy happens (hint: nothing will). Maybe one or two scuffles with the local PD, then after a few hours people will get bored and go home.
There's your worst case scenario.
Quote: TigerWuNot even that many. Probably 300-500 hardcore conspiracy theorists and a handful of tourists. There'll be some guys with bullhorns shouting, some people with signs, most people are just going to hang out to see if anything crazy happens (hint: nothing will). Maybe one or two scuffles with the local PD, then after a few hours people will get bored and go home.
There's your worst case scenario.
That's what they said about the first Burning Man. I also recall the scene in the movie where the organizers of a little rock concert in Bethal realize that maybe they underestimated how many people would show up for three days of music.
Having been to the Alien Inn and the town of Rachaei, I personally hope a few hundred thousand show up but expect to be disappointed.
It's an easy ride from Vegas.
Quote: billryan9-20. Storm Area 51.
Anyone want to quests how many actually show up? 5,000?
113 will show up, but only the 12 with the kookiest costumes be on the news... coincidentally, there will be a big sale at “Alien Beef Jerky” a few weeks later.
Quote: Ayecarumba113 will show up, but only the 12 with the kookiest costumes be on the news... coincidentally, there will be a big sale at “Alien Beef Jerky” a few weeks later.
From alien autopsy..
Quote: petroglyphWhat does it mean in the Jeffrey Epstein case that the PUBLIC CORRUPTION UNIT is handling it, rather than the SEX CRIMES UNIT? Does the FBI suspect election meddling?
I don't claim to know anything close to all the facts.
But I mentioned the other day that Epstein is thought to have extorted many of his financial clients. Maybe some of them were threatened with exposure for their use of girls, but there could easily be other shady stuff in there.
A quick Google indicates that department covers extortion, bribery, and fraud.
Perhaps the initial complaint/lawsuit came from that department first and has spread to sex trafficking complaints. The first I heard about his arrest, they had already raided him and found the photographs. So maybe the original search warrant was for documents and records related to the crime of extortion.
I've seen some partisans who are so warped that they think only the people from the opposing party are guilty. But I think I've seen more who want everyone involved from any party drawn and quartered.
I'm skeptical of how deep they'd go. But it's surprising to me that the case even went this far. I think standard operating procedure is to suppress the evidence and let the guy go, as that Acosta guy attempted to do.
Since they aren't following SOP, who knows how far they'll go?
Maybe this could really spark more people to realize what kind of people have been running things for the past few decades.
Quote: RigondeauxIf the Epstein case becomes massive, it could be just what we need.
I've seen some partisans who are so warped that they think only the people from the opposing party are guilty. But I think I've seen more who want everyone involved from any party drawn and quartered.
I'm skeptical of how deep they'd go. But it's surprising to me that the case even went this far. I think standard operating procedure is to suppress the evidence and let the guy go, as that Acosta guy attempted to do.
Since they aren't following SOP, who knows how far they'll go?
Maybe this could really spark more people to realize what kind of people have been running things for the past few decades.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Quote: MaxPenAbsolute power corrupts absolutely.
True.
Additionally, you have to ask why people pursue absolute power in the first place. What sort of person is consumed with the desire to be "above" everyone else?
I'd imagine that for many Epstien clients, the thrill was not just sexual. It was that they were doing stuff that any normal person would get 20 years for in a heartbeat. But not them. They can do anything they want, without consequences. Quite a rush.
I think that's the big problem for any political system. The most power mad and greedy people will eventually claw their way to the top and turn the system into a tool for their own interests. Our system worked well for a long time because it kept a lid on such people.
But over time, especially starting in 1980 or so, they have figured out ways around it. Lobbyists, purchasing the political process, giving relative dim wits like Chelsea and Jeb 7 figure jobs throwing pencils at the ceiling. Speaking fees. The revolving gov/private door. etc.
If people like Epstein and a few senators, congressmen or even presidents do hard time over this, maybe it's sign that it's not a done deal.
Quote: Rigondeaux
If people like Epstein and a few senators, congressmen or even presidents do hard time over this, maybe it's sign that it's not a done deal.
they got Epstein because he doesn't have real power - he just has money that's different - he was trying to ingratiate himself with the truly powerful by providing them with lavish parties and accomodations
getting Bill Clinton or Trump is not something they system is capable of doing right now although it's improving because of the MeToo thing
in 1983 Congressmen Dan Crane and Gerry Studds had sexual contact with their underage pages
no criminal charges were even considered for them
all they got was in house humiliation from their colleagues - they call it censure
absolutely pathetic and disgusting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_congressional_page_sex_scandal
Quote: lilredroosterthey got Epstein because he doesn't have real power - he just has money that's different - he was trying to ingratiate himself with the truly powerful by providing them with lavish parties and accomodations
getting Bill Clinton or Trump is not something they system is capable of doing right now although it's improving because of the MeToo thing
in 1983 Congressmen Dan Crane and Gerry Studds had sexual contact with their underage pages
no criminal charges were even considered for them
all they got was in house humiliation from their colleagues - they call it censure
absolutely pathetic and disgusting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_congressional_page_sex_scandal
Don’t forget to add Barney Frank, but yea I remember this like yesterday because I had a good friend who was a page. Clearly remember many of us asking if he was raped at work over beers.
Damn the world has changed.
Quote: RigondeauxIf people like Epstein and a few senators, congressmen or even presidents do hard time over this, maybe it's sign that it's not a done deal.
As the Ancient Hawaiians used to say, "DRAIN THE SWAMP!"
Someone opens small. Utah makes it $30. Scando makes it $80. Utah makes it $230. Scando shoves.
Utah, with only about $400 back, folds KK face up. Scando turns over 72o.
I've seen scores of royals. I've had a six card royal. I've seen someone LOSE with a royal. I've played with several celebs and a Brazilian mob boss.
Ain't seen that before.
Quote: RigondeauxLittle poker hand for ya. Utah guy vs. Scando. Uncapped $1/2. $650 deep.
Someone opens small. Utah makes it $30. Scando makes it $80. Utah makes it $230. Scando shoves.
Utah, with only about $400 back, folds KK face up. Scando turns over 72o.
I've seen scores of royals. I've had a six card royal. I've seen someone LOSE with a royal. I've played with several celebs and a Brazilian mob boss.
Ain't seen that before.
yikes, how did he react. I would have been calling with a big I can't believe my kings are up against aces for the 50th time. FML. Then I would have LOLed out loud when I saw his 72, then I would have flipped over the table when the flop was 777
Can someone amplify this while my coffee is perking, I can't seem to track what happened and why.Quote: RigondeauxLittle poker hand for ya. Utah guy vs. Scando. Uncapped $1/2. $650 deep.
Ain't seen that before.
