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November 14th, 2013 at 2:34:52 PM permalink
Of the 50 states, which one can be typed on one row of keys on a QUERTY keyboard?
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November 14th, 2013 at 2:39:04 PM permalink
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November 14th, 2013 at 2:40:51 PM permalink
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November 14th, 2013 at 2:44:15 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces


P.S. It's QWERTY, not QUERTY



Yeah, sorry about that. I must have typed it that way since U always follows a Q? Not this time though.
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November 14th, 2013 at 2:47:16 PM permalink
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Of the 50 states, which one can be typed on one row of keys on a QUERTY keyboard?



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November 14th, 2013 at 3:13:21 PM permalink
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November 14th, 2013 at 3:44:12 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I don't know but i read somewhere that the word "typewriter" it's the longest word you can type using only the top row.

It was designed that way so that the very first typewriter salesmen, who were hunt-and-peck typists, only had to hunt on one line.
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November 14th, 2013 at 3:50:35 PM permalink
Perhaps someone around here will know if this is fact or urban legend-

I read that the original typewriters were ABCDEF.....
After a while the girls would type so fast, the typewriter would jam. So someone came up with the idea of the QWERTY keyboard. They figured that if the mix up the letters, nobody will ever be able to type fast enough to jam the machine.

Anyone else hear this? Is is total crap?
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November 14th, 2013 at 4:10:49 PM permalink
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I'm disappointed how long that took me.

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November 14th, 2013 at 4:18:02 PM permalink
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Don't worry, Sarah Palin would never get it.



from wiki
The construction of the "Type Writer" had two flaws that made the product susceptible to jams. Firstly, characters were mounted on metal arms or typebars, which would clash and jam if neighboring arms were pressed at the same time or in rapid succession.[4] Secondly, its printing point was located beneath the paper carriage, invisible to the operator, a so-called "up-stroke" design. Consequently, jams were especially serious, because the typist could only discover the mishap by raising the carriage to inspect what he had typed. The solution was to place commonly used letter-pairs (like "th" or "st") so that their typebars were not neighboring, avoiding jams. Contrary to popular belief,[5] the QWERTY layout was not designed to slow the typist down,[6] but rather to speed up typing by preventing jams.[4][7] (There is also evidence that, aside from the issue of jamming, keys being further apart increases typing speed on its own, because it encourages alternation between the hands.[6] Almost every word in the English language contains at least one vowel, but on the QWERTY keyboard only the vowel "A" is located on the home row, which requires the typist's fingers to leave the home row for most words.
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November 14th, 2013 at 5:13:14 PM permalink
Quote: KeyserSoze

Perhaps someone around here will know if this is fact or urban legend-

I read that the original typewriters were ABCDEF.....
After a while the girls would type so fast, the typewriter would jam. So someone came up with the idea of the QWERTY keyboard. They figured that if the mix up the letters, nobody will ever be able to type fast enough to jam the machine.

Anyone else hear this? Is is total crap?



I know there is already a post quoting 'wiki' that claims that is not true. I am not sure I believe 'wiki' on this. When I took typing in high school over 50 years ago that was the story. It was also repeated when IBM introduced the ball typewriter at the Seatle Worlds Fair.
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November 14th, 2013 at 7:23:01 PM permalink
Quote: KeyserSoze

Perhaps someone around here will know if this is fact or urban legend-

I read that the original typewriters were ABCDEF.....
After a while the girls would type so fast, the typewriter would jam. So someone came up with the idea of the QWERTY keyboard. They figured that if the mix up the letters, nobody will ever be able to type fast enough to jam the machine.

Anyone else hear this? Is is total crap?



Makes sense to me. A corollary; when air traffic first came out with keyboards allowing individual digital tags on aircraft, in the early 80's, they built ABCDE keyboards for the operators. The reason? Typing was a menial skill, taught almost exclusively in secretarial schools and high school secretarial programs to females. Controllers, until that time, were over 95% male, and most had not learned to type (some military MOS' made men do it; mostly not). That keyboard remains in use today in terminals, though nearly all controllers are typists now with at least some level of familiarity with a QWERTY keyboard (computers). Centers (the airspace above and between most airports) use only QWERTY keyboards, but terminals still hunt-n-peck on the weird one.

McCarran on the mid-shift after the redeye flights depart. Radar keypad is above the PC keyboard, in colors, middle right. Note also the big black trackball just to its right, as well, flush-mounted into the console.
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November 14th, 2013 at 8:00:26 PM permalink
Hard to believe all the money spent on teaching females to type, yet most are still hunt'n'peckers.
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November 14th, 2013 at 8:13:54 PM permalink
I always heard, from several sources, including my high school typing teacher. That the QWERTY keyboard was designed so that the most commonly used letters were the easiest to type, and less frequently used letters were harder to type..That's why Q is top far left and Z is lower bottom left and both get touch-typed with your left pinky or most peoples weakest finger. Whereas E, T and other common letters are in locations designed to be typed with your index or middle fingers. At least that was what I was told. In college one of my computer instructors told a similar story about QWERTY...and also said that other "more efficient" keyboards would probably soon be developed. Haven't seen it yet; though I'm sure many have tried.

Side Note: I know for sure that on the old IBM selectric typewriters you could jam the keys if you went too fast, it was a powerful typewriter. I used to spend most of my typing class trying to do just that. Well that and ogling the girls...I think I was the only guy in a class of about 30 people.
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November 14th, 2013 at 8:20:06 PM permalink
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November 14th, 2013 at 8:28:49 PM permalink
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...and also said that other "more efficient" keyboards would probably soon be developed.


Actually, keyboards themselves will become less and less important as voice recognition software improves. (Granted, we're still many years away from that point, but the technology is headed in that direction)
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November 14th, 2013 at 8:44:28 PM permalink
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The qwerty keyboard was designed to place the common-use letters at center of the board, and lesser used keys near the end of the rows. That does nor explain the s and the L for most purposes. The remington style became the defacto construction for decades. I was in college at the birth of the video revolution, in 1980, just after leaving school the trash-80's (Radio Shack TRS-80) made its appearance, and word-processing has never been the same since. I had to use typewriters 76-79. My fingers haven't been the same since either.
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November 14th, 2013 at 9:26:07 PM permalink
True story, I type using the Dvorak keyboard layout*. Read the history, it's pretty fascinating. Just yesterday, my girlfriend was watching me type and said "man your fingers don't move as much as the rest of us." Absolutely true, Dvorak was designed so that the most frequently used keys are on the home row. Many common words don't require leaving the home row at all.

I switched during my freshman year of college. No special keyboard required; all modern OS's support multiple keyboard layouts at the software level. I never switched my physical keys around either as I touch type and don't look at the keyboard. It's a great security measure in college and at work. Classmate/coworker walks up to unattended keyboard...tries to type something...gets really confused...gives up :).

All that being said, I don't actually recommend switching. You will go through about a 3 month period where you can't type for shit in either layout. And then it's just a lifetime of inconvenience at internet terminals, on your coworker's machine, etc. I'm not even sure if I'm faster now than I was before; I was a pretty good typist in QWERTY. It's some pretty serious nerd cred though.

*technically I use a sub-layout called Programmer Dvorak, but who's counting.
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November 14th, 2013 at 9:39:05 PM permalink
Speaking of keyboards, what about mobile keyboards?

Does anyone here use SwiftKey? Swype?
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November 14th, 2013 at 9:49:58 PM permalink
Given the state of technology... there's an app for dat.
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November 14th, 2013 at 10:07:18 PM permalink
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November 14th, 2013 at 10:33:33 PM permalink
xkcd: Improved Keyboard

I'm always installing tons of weird experimental keyboards because it serves as a good reminder that nothing I was going to type was really worth the trouble.
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November 15th, 2013 at 1:03:21 AM permalink
Wouldn't putting the Q next to the U on a QWERTY keyboard completely defeat the purpose of the layout? The whole idea is that it rarely be necessary to type adjacent keys in succession...
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November 15th, 2013 at 5:10:32 AM permalink
Quote: 24Bingo

Wouldn't putting the Q next to the U on a QWERTY keyboard completely defeat the purpose of the layout? The whole idea is that it rarely be necessary to type adjacent keys in succession...



Is that right? Here are some words using keys in succession.

ending in GH
tough
rough
ugh

ending in LK
milk
ilk
walk
stalk
polk

ending in OP
top
lop
crop
stop
pop

and the opposite way
beginning with PO
Post
pots
popular
populace
poke
pod

to name a few....and

ending in ER
Too many words to list.
ending in AS
Too many words to list.

Probably more, but I'm done looking.

This is a cool place to find words with certain criteria:

http://www.scrabblefinder.com/
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November 15th, 2013 at 5:18:27 AM permalink
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Haa...good one Buzz, it was sewing class. Actually my mother made me sign up for the typing class...this was 1983...because she said computers were the wave of the future and keyboard skills would be important....duh.. Why she didn't have me sign up for you know...a computer class, which they just started offering that year, I don't know. I think they taught Basic and Pascal on TRS-80's....ahh the good ole days. Not.

Seriously though, for an awkward 9th grader being in a class of all girls was not the worst thing in the world.
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November 15th, 2013 at 8:14:54 AM permalink
Whenever I see a typewriter at a garage sale, I always ask the home owner " What is this thing ? "

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Still amazed when I get a receipt at grocery store or gas station. No keys involved.

Spray ink thru a magnetic field to print same WTF ? ? ?
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November 15th, 2013 at 11:40:09 AM permalink
There was a woman on the first season of Pawn
Stars who had her college typewriter from the
40's. She wanted $5000 for it because it was so
rare now. It's worth nothing, unless you need an
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