Cleaning up offensive NFL team names
Atlanta Falcons Refers to aggressive bird of prey, should be changed
Baltimore Ravens In honor of Edgar Allan Poe, white writer, non-inclusive, should be changed
Buffalo Bills Refers to Buffalo Bill who had a racist wild west show, must be changed
Carolina Panthers
Chicago Bears
Cincinnati Bengals
Cleveland Browns Named for a white coach, non-inclusive, should be changed
Dallas Cowboys Cowboys fought Indians, must be changed
Denver Broncos
Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers Refers to meat packing which hurts animals, must be changed
Houston Texans Refers to people who stole Texas from Mexico, offends hispanics, must be changed
Indianapolis Colts
Jacksonville Jaguars
Kansas City Chiefs Indian name, must be changed
Miami Dolphins
Minnesota Vikings Refers to pirates who were criminals who raped, stole, and killed, must be changed
New England Patriots Refers to slave-owning whites, noninclusive, must be changed
New Orleans Saints Christian name, offensive to non-christians, must be changed
New York Giants Offensive to short people, nininclusive, should be changed
New York Jets Refers to Jet planes and Idelwild/JFK airport nearby, global warming, must be changed
Oakland Raiders Aggressive name, should be changed
Philadelphia Eagles
Pittsburgh Steelers Refers to Steelworkers who polluted and caused global warming, must be changed
Saint Louis Rams
San Diego Chargers Refers to electriity which has caused global warming, must be changed
San Francisco 49ers Refers to men who stole California from Mexico and raped the envrionment, must be changed
Seattle Seahawks
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Refers to pirates who were criminals who raped, stole, and killed, must be changed
Tennessee Titans Aggressive name, should be changed
Washington Redskins Offensive to liberal whites, must be changed
I agree to your idea in principle but you need to fine tune some.
Green Bay Packers are cheese packers not meat packers. Wisconsin produces cheese not meat. Thanks for reading.
Quote: speedycrapGreen Bay Packers Refers to meat packing which hurts animals, must be changed
I agree to your idea in principle but you need to fine tune some.
Green Bay Packers are cheese packers not meat packers. Wisconsin produces cheese not meat. Thanks for reading.
WI produces cheese now. Years ago, however, Green Bay was a major meat packing center and that is where the name came from.
Quote: speedycrapGreen Bay Packers Refers to meat packing which hurts animals, must be changed
I agree to your idea in principle but you need to fine tune some.
Green Bay Packers are cheese packers not meat packers. Wisconsin produces cheese not meat. Thanks for reading.
I have had the unfortunate honor of touring the Packerland Packing rendering plant in Green Bay. While it contains many squishy and aromatic substances, there is no cheese in that building.
Quote: AZDuffmanWI produces cheese now. Years ago, however, Green Bay was a major meat packing center and that is where the name came from.
Thanks for the info.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13Wow, my Arizona Cardinals don't even get on the list as a recognized NFL football team. Now that's almost as offensive as their play on the field. :)
ZCore13
Arizona has an NFL team? ;)
Quote: AZDuffmanSince we have a significant population of thin-skinned people in the USA today I thought I would list more NFL names that must be changed since somebody may be offended. Sharp readers will note some say "must" be changed and some "should" be changed. This was a judgment call on my part. But the issue is now open for comment.
Atlanta Falcons Refers to aggressive bird of prey, should be changed
Baltimore Ravens In honor of Edgar Allan Poe, white writer, non-inclusive, should be changed
Buffalo Bills Refers to Buffalo Bill who had a racist wild west show, must be changed
Carolina Panthers
Chicago Bears
Cincinnati Bengals
Cleveland Browns Named for a white coach, non-inclusive, should be changed
Dallas Cowboys Cowboys fought Indians, must be changed
Denver Broncos
Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers Refers to meat packing which hurts animals, must be changed
Houston Texans Refers to people who stole Texas from Mexico, offends hispanics, must be changed
Indianapolis Colts
Jacksonville Jaguars
Kansas City Chiefs Indian name, must be changed
Miami Dolphins
Minnesota Vikings Refers to pirates who were criminals who raped, stole, and killed, must be changed
New England Patriots Refers to slave-owning whites, noninclusive, must be changed
New Orleans Saints Christian name, offensive to non-christians, must be changed
New York Giants Offensive to short people, nininclusive, should be changed
New York Jets Refers to Jet planes and Idelwild/JFK airport nearby, global warming, must be changed
Oakland Raiders Aggressive name, should be changed
Philadelphia Eagles
Pittsburgh Steelers Refers to Steelworkers who polluted and caused global warming, must be changed
Saint Louis Rams
San Diego Chargers Refers to electriity which has caused global warming, must be changed
San Francisco 49ers Refers to men who stole California from Mexico and raped the envrionment, must be changed
Seattle Seahawks
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Refers to pirates who were criminals who raped, stole, and killed, must be changed
Tennessee Titans Aggressive name, should be changed
Washington Redskins Offensive to liberal whites, must be changed
Why give some teams a pass? Panthers, Lions, Bengals, and Jaguars are aggressive carnivorous cats. Eagles and Seahawks are just as bad as falcons. So the rams, cardinals, dolphins, broncos, and bears could potentially be OK, I guess.
Quote: terapinedHave some common sense. This reminds me of another board discussion I had about the Paterno Statues at Penn State. I argued they should come down. Students argued that if the statues come down, then the library bearing his name must come down also. I argued just the statues, have some common sense.
The statues were there to honor him as a coach. He didn't pay for them, and that honor may or may not have been warranted after the scandal broke. The library is named after JoePa because he donated a huge amount of cash. Enough that they picked him over the other donors as the person to name the building after. That seems like a completely different situation...
Let's remove the offensive name (Washington) and just call them Redskins.
Quote: Zcore13Wow, my Arizona Cardinals don't even get on the list as a recognized NFL football team. Now that's almost as offensive as their play on the field. :)
ZCore13
I lived in AZ for 3 years and don't remember seeing them on local TV. But I may have slipped in my cut and paste.
Bears is actually kinda appropriate unless the team has an actual hetero guy on it. That might be slightly uncomfortable for him.Quote: rdw4potusWhy give some teams a pass? Panthers, Lions, Bengals, and Jaguars are aggressive carnivorous cats. Eagles and Seahawks are just as bad as falcons. So the rams, cardinals, dolphins, broncos, and bears could potentially be OK, I guess.
Quote: AyecarumbaMiami is the name of a tribe. The whole city needs to change its name...
Not really... calling something after something isn't offensive in itself.
Which is the point being hugely missed here, but never mind, eh.
Quote: soulhunt79The entire game is hateful to people without feet. Maybe change it to the "National Fun League"
In that instance then it's probably just as hateful to people without balls.
Quote: soulhunt79The entire game is hateful to people without feet. Maybe change it to the "National Fun League"
Now that you bring it up isn't calling it "National" xenophobic as well?
Quote: AZDuffmanNow that you bring it up isn't calling it "National" xenophobic as well?
Yes? But at least they really mean it. Not like the NHL or NBA with their teams in Canada...
Quote: AZDuffmanWashington Redskins Offensive to liberal whites, must be changed
Anything goes huh? Consevatards. Teabaggers. Good names for teams.
Quote: rxwineAnything goes huh? Consevatards. Teabaggers. Good names for teams.
Green Bay Crackers.
Quote: rxwineAll fine names for people who aren't offended by anything. Or don't think other people should be offended by some choices.
I think if you are "offended" you should just choose another team to root for.
Unknown Mexican Ave and Unknown Indian Avenue. They are right next to each other. I was really surprised to see streets named that. I'm sure there's a story behind it, but very strange. Could you imagine the uproar if they had others like Unknown African Ave or Unknown Jew Avenue. I cringed as I drive by.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13On the same subject, I was in Peeples Valley Arizona this weekend (population 428) and they have two streets named the following:
Unknown Mexican Ave and Unknown Indian Avenue. They are right next to each other. I was really surprised to see streets named that. I'm sure there's a story behind it, but very strange. Could you imagine the uproar if they had others like Unknown African Ave or Unknown Jew Avenue. I cringed as I drive by.
ZCore13
When I was in college, we went to the mall and noticed a line of toy dolls: Johnny, Kyle, Susan, Mary, and Asian Boy. There were also family sets: the Smiths, the Johnsons, and Ethnic Family.
Edit: also, "asian boy toy" is a VERY NSFW google image search. I'll try to find a pic of the doll when I can't get fired...
Quote: AZDuffmanI think if you are "offended" you should just choose another team to root for.
I've been accused more than once, including by you of being too profane. Do you get to pick and choose what to protest, and others should just go look elsewhere?
Actually, I think you have been the only protest for profane word use the whole time I've been on the board.
I try to follow the rules here. They have changed over time. I think I may have been looser with my words early on, but that has updated with the rules changes.
Quote: AZDuffmanI think if you are "offended" you should just choose another team to root for.
Or another sport?
No point protesting at all... just stop watching? Don't give feedback, just shut up and go away? That seems less than productive to me.
(snip - facile comment)
" On March 24, 1961, Secretary of the Interior Stewart Udall warned Marshall to hire black players or face federal retribution. For the first time in history, the federal government had attempted to desegregate a professional sports team. "
Quote: speedycrapGreen Bay Packers Refers to meat packing which hurts animals, must be changed
I agree to your idea in principle but you need to fine tune some.
Green Bay Packers are cheese packers not meat packers. Wisconsin produces cheese not meat. Thanks for reading.
It's been my experience that a large number of Green Bay fans are fudge packers. I guess we'll have to save that one for another thread.
Quote: KeyserSozeThe Washington Redskins MUST change their name.
Let's remove the offensive name (Washington) and just call them Redskins.
When the Washington Bullets changed their name, people cracked the same joke about just calling them the Bullets.
In all seriousness, though, most of the other teams with borderline nicknames can at least say they have a story behind the name - the Cleveland Indians were named after a player, for example (I forget which one,) the Chicago Blackhawks were named after an individual, the Notre Dame Fighting Irish were named because an opponent used the term derisively and the team adopted it with pride, etc. I am aware of no such story with the Redskins. Their only history is a racist owner who wouldn't integrate the team, a "glory days" of three Super Bowl wins, and then two decades of being also-rans most years. Not to mention one of the most obnoxious owners in sports. They would have had the same history if their team name was the Washington Presidents or something.
If I were the owner, I'd at least consider changing the name, but it's not the only thing I'd change about the team. The two decades of spotty play would be more of a priority than the name.
Quote: rxwineAnything goes huh? Consevatards. Teabaggers. Good names for teams.
The difference is that conservatives would do something like purchasing the team and then changing the name that way. They wouldn't whine and try to get the name officially banned.
Quote: hwccdealer
In all seriousness, though, most of the other teams with borderline nicknames can at least say they have a story behind the name - the Cleveland Indians were named after a player, for example (I forget which one,)
The media solicted the sportswriters to vote on a name, and Indians was chosen. They are often thought to have been named in honor of Louis Sockalexis, of the Penobscot Reservation, who was a previous player for the team, but that's a misconception. Sockalexis was one of the first, if not the first, Native American to play in the majors, though.
The Indians were named after a player at one time, though. For a long period of time they were the Cleveland Naps, after player-manager, Napoleon Lajoie.
Quote: Zcore13Wow, my Arizona Cardinals don't even get on the list as a recognized NFL football team. Now that's almost as offensive as their play on the field. :)
ZCore13
Cardinals can be offensive on many fronts. Cardinal is a red colour obviously bad see beginning of thread, cardinal is a high ranking Catholic priest, cardinal number is to complicated for non math types will make them feel inferior.
Here's Charles Barkley specifically on the N-word:
Liberals also love using the offensive word 'teabagger'. So I'll tell you what, libs. I'll support banning 'Redskins' when you support banning 'teabagger' (which, of course, will never happen).
Quote: Beethoven9thLiberals make no sense. First, they want to ban the name 'Redskins', but in the very next breath, they say that they want to continue using the N-word.
Liberals also love using the offensive word 'teabagger'. So I'll tell you what, libs. I'll support banning 'Redskins' when you support banning 'teabagger' (which, of course, will never happen).
From what I understand, the crowd that wants to get rid of "Redskins" and the crowd that wants to use the, shall we say, street version of the N-word (because apparently "bro" and "dude" just don't convey the message right) are not the same people.
And I'll call off "teabaggers" when the right calls off "libtards" and stops trying to make being a "liberal" and even a "moderate" come off as unforgivable sins. Being a run-of-the-mill conservative who understands his or her position is fine. We all value many of the same things. Being a teabagger means being a fringe fanatic who's impossible to work with. Those people, to be frank, suck.
Quote: hwccdealer
And I'll call off "teabaggers" when the right calls off "libtards" and stops trying to make being a "liberal" and even a "moderate" come off as unforgivable sins. Being a run-of-the-mill conservative who understands his or her position is fine. We all value many of the same things. Being a teabagger means being a fringe fanatic who's impossible to work with. Those people, to be frank, suck.
I have never used "libtard" as I find no need for name-calling. I *will* keep using "liberal" in a negative way because I find many negatives in it and most liberal ideas have both failed before and reduce freedom. And I will keep using it as the lamestream media always makes "conservative" a dirty word.
As to the Tea-Party being "fringe fanatics" I am sorry, but I just do not understand where people get this. The side that wants to do things in a Constitutional way are fanatics? Because they do not want to compromise on a government takeover of a major sector they are fanatics? Because they do not believe equal opportunity has to mean equal outcomes they are fanatics? Sorry if I do not get that.
You missed my point. Conservatives don't whine about banning 'Redskins' or 'teabaggers', so they're consistent. OTOH, libs are as inconsistent as always.Quote: hwccdealerAnd I'll call off "teabaggers" when the right calls off "libtards"
That's hilarious. You continue to use that word even though some people find it offensive, yet you still want to ban the use of 'Redskins'. lolQuote: hwccdealerBeing a teabagger means being a fringe fanatic who's impossible to work with. Those people, to be frank, suck.
Quote: AZDuffmanAs to the Tea-Party being "fringe fanatics" I am sorry, but I just do not understand where people get this.
Apparently, he missed this poll: 42% Identify with Obama Politically, 42% with the Tea Party
So I guess 42% of the people are "fringe fanatics". lol
Quote: AZDuffmanWI produces cheese now. Years ago, however, Green Bay was a major meat packing center and that is where the name came from.
I think it was fish they were packing. Remember, it's on a bay.
Quote: AyecarumbaMiami is the name of a tribe. The whole city needs to change its name...
Miami Purchase. Southwestern Ohio. 1780's. Also known as the Symmes Purchase. One of my 4th great-grandmothers, Lydia Mould, was there. Genealogy fever! Catch it!
Quote: KeyserSozeThe Washington Redskins MUST change their name.
Let's remove the offensive name (Washington) and just call them Redskins.
The Fighting Whities are my team.
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Whites
My ancestors would be proud!
Quote: mickeycrimmI think it was fish they were packing. Remember, it's on a bay.
I remember a show on it from when I was a kid and they said it was meat. Also remember the midwest is where the big packing houses broke down meat and sent it all over.
Quote: AZDuffmanI remember a show on it from when I was a kid and they said it was meat. Also remember the midwest is where the big packing houses broke down meat and sent it all over.
Meat : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Packing_Company - Today, the company is remembered as the namesake of the Green Bay Packers. The fledgling football team took its name after Curly Lambeau, a shipping clerk for the company, who successfully asked the company for money for jerseys and use of the company's athletic field in 1919.
Yeah, note the name of Curly's company he worked for....
Quote: Beethoven9thYou missed my point. Conservatives don't whine about banning 'Redskins' or 'teabaggers', so they're consistent. OTOH, libs are as inconsistent as always.
You missed my point. The crowd that wants to ban "Redskins" and the crowd that uses the term "teabaggers" are not necessarily the same. Not all liberals are the same.
Quote: Beethoven9thThat's hilarious. You continue to use that word even though some people find it offensive, yet you still want to ban the use of 'Redskins'. lol
When did I say I wanted to ban "Redskins"? Careful putting words in people's mouths; some people bite.
Fair enough. The only problem is that I never said that ALL liberals are the same. But a great deal of liberals who use the slur "teabaggers" are the same people who condemn "Redskins". (And no I don't have a scientific study with the exact number of liberals who fit this description, just like they don't have the exact number of Native Americans who are offended by "Redskins".)Quote: hwccdealerYou missed my point. The crowd that wants to ban "Redskins" and the crowd that uses the term "teabaggers" are not necessarily the same. Not all liberals are the same.
You don't want to ban "Redskins"? Good for you!Quote: hwccdealerWhen did I say I wanted to ban "Redskins"? Careful putting words in people's mouths; some people bite.
+1Quote: AZDuffmanOMG, Navajo Indians wearing Redskins jackets?!?!?! Are a bunch of white liberals going to call them "racists?"
The next time white liberals whine about "Redskins", I'm going to tell them that I will support banning "Redskins" if they support banning "teabagger". When they protest, I'm going to say that calling a Tea Party member a "teab*gger" is like calling a gay person a "f*ggot", so they should both be banned. ;)
