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Dalex64
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May 14th, 2016 at 5:27:06 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

John MillerTrump won't be able to use his taxes as a bargaining chip.

It is not required by law to release them, but all Presidential candidates do. To not release them is an indication he's hiding something YUUUGE. Hillary and the Dems will pound him all year if he doesn't.

The "I'm being audited" excuse is B.S. and everyone knows that.



Apparently this tradition started in 1952, when Richard Nixon challenged his democratic opponents to release their tax returns. They did, but Nixon did not.

So the tradition and hypocracy of demanding records such as tax documents and birth records of democrats, them complying, and then refusing to do so themselves, has been a republican tradition for over 60 years.

Everyone should either release this sort of document without complaining or feet-dragging or excuses, or the two parties should agree and release a joint statement that no one has to do it any more.
TwoFeathersATL
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May 14th, 2016 at 6:07:57 AM permalink
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IIt is cramped under the fridge....

Quote: petroglyph

Did you get stuck there trying to remove the lint?


I AM the lint.
Just lint avoiding the landfill,
By hiding under the fridge ;-)
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
777
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May 14th, 2016 at 7:06:07 AM permalink
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He's tremendous, a really very great guy. I have a lot of friends who call me, they call me and they say "you know, Trump is really great. He's great." And then you have the press, the media with their lies and stories and everything else, and look at the news, okay? It's horrible, it's a big problem. Now, if you remember how they treated Trump, how Megyn Kelly treated Trump, it's very unfair. But they're losers and they're not going to win, Donald Trump is going to win, and he's going to make America great again.

Yes, that was also sarcasm. I just watched this video analyzing Trump's speech patterns. How'd I do?



In this CNN report, you can hear John Miller also say good thing about Trump. http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/13/politics/donald-trump-recording-john-miller-barron-fake-press/

A quick internet search for John Miller results in many listings on Donald Trump. In Trump's world, anyone whose name is John Miller certainly can file defamation lawsuit against Trump.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=john+miller







https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=john+miller
petroglyph
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May 14th, 2016 at 9:05:09 AM permalink
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Quote: TwoFeathersATL
IIt is cramped under the fridge....


I AM the lint.
Just lint avoiding the landfill,
By hiding under the fridge ;-)

Good trick
ams288
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May 14th, 2016 at 10:29:59 AM permalink
It has not been a good couple of days for John MillerTrump.

His taxes.
His treasonous butler.
John Miller.
And now this New York Times article detailing his creepy behavior with various women in his life:

http://nyti.ms/24RqHYi
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
777
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May 14th, 2016 at 11:27:13 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

It has not been a good couple of days for John MillerTrump.

His taxes.
His treasonous butler.
John Miller.
And now this New York Times article detailing his creepy behavior with various women in his life:

http://nyti.ms/24RqHYi



Below is an excerpt from the comment section of the NY Times' John Miller article (comment made by reader Nuschler):

Every one of Trump's low class no education male supporters LOVE these stories! "Wow--he can have ANY woman he wants..and he has the best looking women--all tens with great t*** and a**!!"

And the woman who support him? The dream of having this POWERFUL man desire them..."Take your clothes off honey" is something THEY want to hear! Oh Donald thinks I'm great looking--OOH!!"

Edit #1 to add another comment by reader Claudia Piepenburg:

Trump is a misogynistic sociopath; that Republican 'leaders' (the word is used loosely in this case) are coming around to accepting him is revolting. The photo of Trump with his 15-year old daughter on his lap is disgustingly similar to the pic of Gary Hart and Donna Rice. I am ashamed for my country that over 10 million people have voted for this vile, reprehensible excuse for a husband, father, employer, friend and man.


Edit #2 to add another comment by reader Coolhunter:

Sleazy is to kind a word to describe what Trump is all about. Those that vote for him will have a lot of explaining to do to their children. Voting for Trump, the ultimate 'dirty old man', tells you the actual voters, angry white men, envy his behavior.


Edit #3 to add another comment by reader Freedom Furgle:

I sometimes wonder what Trump looks like right after he gets out of the shower. I would figure he has a doughy body and very long hair - easily touching his shoulders - at least on the sides and back of his head, and a very large bald spot on top. It's an image I find somehow...creepy.
It's amazing to me that this man would have the sheer chutzpah to ever comment on any woman's looks. Really. And yet I know several several strong, independent women who support him. One of them actually told me she thinks he's good looking. I am now convinced she is either blind or insane. And I know for a fact she isn't blind.

Edit #4 to add another comment by reader Christine McMorrow:

I found this article as profoundly disturbing as I do the man himself--not for the behavior per se, but because this man has the potential, even the likelihood, of becoming our next President.

There are lots of men who treat women like this, always have been, always will be. But to think this is the kind of character voters would elect to the highest office in the world, is nothing short of amazing.

Whether it's his policies, his background, or his relationships with women, the man is unfit for office. I wish voters would be less concerned about his celebrity, money, and glamour (such as it is), and really think long and hard about who they want in that office.

President Obama could not have said it better: The Presidency is not some sort of reality show. Entertainers entertain, leaders govern.

Mr. Trump has shown no capacity to "govern" in the traditional sense of the word, whether it's curbing his appetites or working with a good sense of US history and our constitution.


Edit #5 to add another comment by reader Christine Trillian:

His supporters don't care. They. Don't. Care.

The only true thing Trump ever said was that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and people would still vote for him.

I can't figure it out.


Edit #6 to add another comment by reader Sven Gall:

I like Trump!
He's great and I'm voting for him along with a billion others.
November we win! No party holds on for 3 terms so we win we win!
Go TRUMP!


Edit #7 to add another comment by reader Pat Boice:

NO!!! We cannot let this immature buffoon humiliate the U.S./us to the world!


Edit #8 to add another comment by reader Anne:

This was interesting. I draw some conclusions from it- creepy ones. What sticks in my mind mostly about Trump though are his comments on Mexicans and Muslims in the US -and how articles like this ( and it is a good article) will be seen as positive by Trump supporters. Trump's popularity has upended my view of Americans. It scares me .


Edit #9 to add another comment by reader MK:

It is difficult enough raising two young girls in this social-media-oriented, sensationalistic society - that I dare not imagine the difficulty explaining to my daughters how such a proven misogynist and bully could be ever so close to the Presidency.


Edit #10 to add another comment by reader Tom:

I laugh out loud when a Trump supporter tries to convince me that Bill Clinton is evil incarnate around women, their candidate is not a misogynist and ignore my question about their support for a candidate that is pro choice (depending on which day it is).


Edit #11 to add another comment by reader steve:

A significant amount of this behavior would be actionable under the sexual harassment policies of almost any for profit or non-profit organization in America. If he worked in my institution he would be fired for cause.

And this is the man many Americans wish to be President of the United States.

He is simply, utterly, disgusting.


Edit #12 to add another comment by reader D.A.Oh (in response to reader Dad whose comment is "Worse than JFK? Bill Clinton? Not even close"):

Have you not heard about how the Trump raped his first wife?

Or how he said he was sexually attracted to then 12-year old Paris Hilton, right before volunteering how he enjoyed her illegally distributed sex-tape with Melania?

Or how, when asked of his 18-month old daughter's finest attributes, he immediately declared that he hoped she'd have her mother's breasts?

The man is either sick or hopelessly crude. Seemingly both. JFK and Clinton, for their faults were at least loved and respected. The Trump is a dog with a golden collar and no leash.


Edit #13 to add another comment by reader ALB:

Actually, a lot of this was well-known "local" news around NYC back in the day. "The Donald" and his exploits were often in the paper. It wasn't really international news or international concern; it wasn't as important as it is now. Now he is running for President. Then he was just a wealthy jerk with an oversized ego who changed girlfriends and wives as often as he changed his clothes, and built glass boxes trimmed in gold with his name plastered across the front.


Edit #14 to add another comment by reader MoneyRules:

The fact that he is the GOP nominee is not a reflection of him -- clearly Trump is being himself as he always says. That he may become President says more about the country, our dumbed down citizenry, and yes, the media's constant pornification of women.


Edit #15 to add another comment by reader MichaelJ:

Just the thought that this vulgar, hateful man is the Republicans' choice to run for President says it all. Whether or not the Donald wins is immaterial. Never in my wildest dreams would I have predicted a person as unqualified to be president as Trump could get the nomination of a major party. Remember, after Trump is gone, all the people who actually voted for this man will still be here.


Edit #16 to add another comment by reader Rob:

There are not enough denigrating words to describe this embarrassment of a "man" who doesn't know the difference between the truth and a lie. And I blame the press for giving him so much free coverage. He's a spoiled brat who treats people like objects and obviously has no conscience. I pray he disappears forever after Hillary stomps him


Edit #17 to add another comment by reader Richard:

It would be far preferable to this registered independent voter (who generally votes for the Democrats) to give Richard M. Nixon a shot at redemption than to see Donald Trump sitting in the Oval Office for one day.


Edit #18 to add another comment by reader Nick K:

To call Trump an infantile egomaniac obsessed with the female beauty would be fair. More so, he is an insecure sycophant who craves attention.


Edit #19 to add another comment by reader Andy Hain:

DJT will certainly not be the first President of the USA with those character traits. As a matter of fact, they just might have been a job requirement. Time for a woman in this most powerful position, indeed.


Edit #20 to add another comment by reader GiGi:

None of this will hurt Trump. It is likely that most of his male supporters admire his machismo and would emulate it if they could. Lots of his female supporters would have been happy to be a Trump girl friend. Demeaning behavior would just have been part of the deal.


Edit #21 to add another comment by reader Rick Gage:

Boy, this takes a major arrow from the Republican quiver. If they can, no longer, claim some higher standard of (false) religious moral standing when it comes to their Republican brand, they'll have to come up with actual ideas for governing. No wonder the establishment is torn. This candidate will drag their party down long after he leaves the stage. From this point forward whenever they point a finger at a Democratic politician we can just play the Trump card. If Sarah Palin made them the party of stupid, this guy makes them the party of the soulless. And to the 20-30% of women who still back him, show a little respect for yourself and your gender.


Edit #22 to add another comment by reader JustWondering:

There is a real level of desperation showing in Trump supporters in this comment thread. The more Trump is examined the more things are found that make him a terrifying prospect as President. Perhaps "President Trump" as an adult cartoon would be appropriate, but as an actual POTUS no. That he would have even broached the idea of asking holders of U.S. bonds to take less shows the monumental degree of ignorance he has. His behavior toward women shows something even darker.


Edit #23 to add another comment by reader violetsmart:

Trump is so like former Italian premier Silvio Berlusconi. Same syndrome. He drove italy into virtual bankruptcy during his 20 years in power, but he always had gorgeous young women as cabinet ministers. I could not believe that Italians would vote for such a hoax, but they did and it appears that Americans are no more discerning. What a nightmare, not only for the USA, but for the world!


Edit #24 to add another comment by reader Mountain Dragonfly:

And this is the man who wants to blame Hillary for her husband's escapades? Despite Bill's wandering eyes (and other parts, I don't remember when all was exposed that he did anything that the women did not allow, nor did he humiliate them. And Hillary, while I am not crazy about her as a candidate, is NOT the one who strayed. Every time there is another article about Trump in the news, I shiver. Too many voters seem taken with him...I guess he represents what they wish they could do and get away with, as he seemingly has. Doesn't say much about our country, does it?


Edit #25 to add another comment by reader Ron S:

The mystery is not Donald Trump. We have ample evidence about who he is. The mystery is that there are many American men and women who support his run for the Presidency. If he is elected, they will deserve what they get; an ill informed self serving narcissist who is not fit to be President.
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Tanko
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May 14th, 2016 at 12:04:58 PM permalink
Quote: Dalex64

Apparently this tradition started in 1952, when Richard Nixon challenged his democratic opponents to release their tax returns. They did, but Nixon did not.



Where did you get that information?

Nixon was the first Presidential candidate to release his tax returns.

It started with Nixon.

President Tax Returns
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May 14th, 2016 at 12:11:33 PM permalink
Well...

Quote:

Nixon released his returns even though he was under audit. Ultimately, the audit didnít go well for himĖ it was unpleasant, embarrassing, and ultimately very expensive.



So Nixon released them under audit. Interesting.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/taxanalysts/2016/04/05/donald-trump-wont-release-his-tax-returns-while-under-audit-but-richard-nixon-did/2/#4f3b511f59ef
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
Dalex64
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May 14th, 2016 at 2:41:18 PM permalink
Quote: Tanko

Where did you get that information?

Nixon was the first Presidential candidate to release his tax returns.

It started with Nixon.

President Tax Returns



http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/16/presidential-candidates-have-long-history-of-releasing-tax-returns/

Says he did not release his tax returns until he was president.

In 1952, he got his opponents to release theirs but did not release his own at that time.
Tanko
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May 14th, 2016 at 5:47:12 PM permalink
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/16/presidential-candidates-have-long-history-of-releasing-tax-returns/

Says he did not release his tax returns until he was president.

In 1952, he got his opponents to release theirs but did not release his own at that time.



The article does not suggest that Nixon asked Stevenson and Sparkman to release their tax forms.

He never asked them to do that.

Nixon went on television in 1952 and disclosed his financial information before a national audience.

The "Checker's" speech was a hit with the public, so Nixon challenged Stevenson and Sparkman to follow his lead and release their financial information as he did.

Stevenson apparently didn't have a pup, so he and Sparkman chose to release their tax forms instead.

Quote:

Everyone should either release this sort of document without complaining or feet-dragging or excuses, or the two parties should agree and release a joint statement that no one has to do it any more.



All Presidential candidates are required by law to submit a financial disclosure report to the Federal Election Commission within thirty days of announcing their candidacy.

Trump Financial Disclosure

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