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AZDuffman
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July 19th, 2015 at 11:10:05 AM permalink
Quote: Twirdman

The all lives matter campaign is incredibly stupid and insulting. All lives do matter just like all disease are bad and we should work for a cure, that doesn't mean I'm going to go to a walk for the cure rally and start shouting AIDS is bad to.



The point is the blacklivesmatter crew is a circus of racists who could care less how many blacks kill each other. They think white America is the reason for the collapse of such a large part if black society. Fact is whites are far more likely to be killed by a black than the other way around.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
Gandler
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July 19th, 2015 at 12:02:46 PM permalink
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The point is the blacklivesmatter crew is a circus of racists who could care less how many blacks kill each other. They think white America is the reason for the collapse of such a large part if black society. Fact is whites are far more likely to be killed by a black than the other way around.



In America, everyone is more likely to be killed by a black man.
Boz
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July 19th, 2015 at 12:38:32 PM permalink
Quote: Gandler

In America, everyone is more likely to be killed by a black man.




Your not allowed to state facts in any discussion about race. Didn't you learn that in America 2015 101?
Twirdman
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July 19th, 2015 at 1:06:50 PM permalink
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In America, everyone is more likely to be killed by a black man.



What? Most crime is intrarracial not interracial so you are most likely to be killed by a member of your own race. Also for races other then black or white they are more likely to be killed by a white perpetrator https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls . So no matter what prism you look through this statement is wrong. I will admit AZD statement is correct. If we look at homicide victims more white homicide victims are targeted by blacks compared to whites targeting blacks.
Gandler
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July 19th, 2015 at 1:26:06 PM permalink
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What? Most crime is intrarracial not interracial so you are most likely to be killed by a member of your own race. Also for races other then black or white they are more likely to be killed by a white perpetrator https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls . So no matter what prism you look through this statement is wrong. I will admit AZD statement is correct. If we look at homicide victims more white homicide victims are targeted by blacks compared to whites targeting blacks.



Right (well partially), but you are missing per capitia scaling.

Blacks make up 13% of the USA population. Even without per capita scaling blacks vastly win over whites in murder rates. When you factor in its 13% of the population versus 77% of the population, the chance of any given black committing a murder is vastly more likely in America on a pure statistical basis.

White on white crime does exist, but given the population difference its a statistical nonissue compared to black on black crime. Which is why saying that in America blacks are more likely to be the murderer is a statistical reality.
Twirdman
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July 19th, 2015 at 1:49:57 PM permalink
Quote: Gandler

Right (well partially), but you are missing per capitia scaling.

Blacks make up 13% of the USA population. Even without per capita scaling blacks vastly win over whites in murder rates. When you factor in its 13% of the population versus 77% of the population, the chance of any given black committing a murder is vastly more likely in America on a pure statistical basis.

White on white crime does exist, but given the population difference its a statistical nonissue compared to black on black crime. Which is why saying that in America blacks are more likely to be the murderer is a statistical reality.



That isn't what you were saying though. You said people were more likely to be victimized by a black murder that statement is false. That statement blacks are more likely to be murders is true.

In order you are more likely to be murdered by your own race then anyone else, after that you are more likely to be murdered by a white person, then black, and finally other.

In terms of a randomly selected person blacks are most likely to be murders then white. Have to be very careful with your language though if you want to convey the correct meaning.
SanchoPanza
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July 19th, 2015 at 7:00:45 PM permalink
Quote: Twirdman

In order you are more likely to be murdered by your own race then anyone else, after that you are more likely to be murdered by a white person, then black, and finally other. . . . Have to be very careful with your language though if you want to convey the correct meaning.

Good advice, because the statement about murder rates appears to be based on the F.B.I. report covering 2011. If so, that was well before the F.B.I. began classifying Hispanic people as a separate group.
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July 19th, 2015 at 9:12:00 PM permalink
Quote: Twirdman

In terms of a randomly selected person blacks are most likely to be murders then white. Have to be very careful with your language though if you want to convey the correct meaning.



Conveying the correct meaning isn't a strong suit of several people who post in this thread.
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bobsims
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July 20th, 2015 at 6:11:34 AM permalink
Quote: Twirdman

That isn't what you were saying though. You said people were more likely to be victimized by a black murder that statement is false. That statement blacks are more likely to be murders is true.

In order you are more likely to be murdered by your own race then anyone else, after that you are more likely to be murdered by a white person, then black, and finally other.

In terms of a randomly selected person blacks are most likely to be murders then white. Have to be very careful with your language though if you want to convey the correct meaning.[/q

Leftist Logic 101

Black males; 6% of the population 61% of murderers
The 3 states with the lowest murders (Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire) are all white with some of the loosest gun laws and highest gun ownership rates.
Conclusion-the problem is too many guns.

Gandler
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July 20th, 2015 at 10:07:24 AM permalink
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Quote: Twirdman

That isn't what you were saying though. You said people were more likely to be victimized by a black murder that statement is false. That statement blacks are more likely to be murders is true.

In order you are more likely to be murdered by your own race then anyone else, after that you are more likely to be murdered by a white person, then black, and finally other.

In terms of a randomly selected person blacks are most likely to be murders then white. Have to be very careful with your language though if you want to convey the correct meaning.



Leftist Logic 101

Black males; 6% of the population 61% of murderers
The 3 states with the lowest murders (Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire) are all white with some of the loosest gun laws and highest gun ownership rates.
Conclusion-the problem is too many guns.




It's OK the Confederate flag is gone now, so there will be no more black on black crime.

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