Gay Marriage, Straight Marriage

Gay Marriage, Straight Marriage

I tend to think of myself as a conservative but in reality much of my social awareness tends towards liberalism except in the tax and spend department – I’d like to keep my money from the liberals’ grubby little (rather, BIG) hands. Actually I’d like to keep my money from conservatives’ BIG hands as well.

I also can’t stand the pompous self-righteousness of liberals; these folks irritate me. I also don’t like them shoving all sorts of restrictions down my throat for my own good. If I want to use salt then I will use salt (I don’t actually use much salt but that is just an example); if I want to smoke cigarettes in my office I’ll smoke cigarettes (I haven’t smoked a cigarette since I gave up acting in 1989), if I want to whatever it is I want to do then I want to and that is that. Of course, when I have traveled across areas of the country where the extreme right wing holds sway those people annoy the hell out of me too.

Just watch those “Southern Preachers” who can actually perform their antics all over the country, not just the South, and all I can think of to say is, “Oh, shut up. If God needs an ass such as you to speak for Him, He is in deep trouble.” These folks really need to get a real job.

I don’t like it when either side of the political or religious or social spectrum tells me what to do. I had to put up with that when I was six years old; I don’t want to have to put up with that when I am 66 years old (next week!).

Essentially, I want to be left alone (at least relatively left alone) to do whatever the hell I want. Should there be laws restricting me? Yes, of course. If what I want to do is drive my car in a school parking lot killing as many teenagers as I can during their lunch hour (I know some former teachers who probably day-dreamed about doing this) then, yes, the government should stop me. If I should want to stand atop a blackjack table and pee on the casino patrons then, yes, the security guards should drag me down and have me arrested.

So, yes, I do recognize the need for law and order. Anarchy is the diarrhea of civilization but liberalism (socialism) is the Imodium of civilization. I prefer a nice, healthy balance.

So let’s take a look at gay marriage in light of the Supreme Court’s decision of today (June 26, 2013). I have an overwhelming response to those who get themselves into an uproar over the whole idea of two gays or lesbians getting married – who gives a shit? Two men want to marry each other; two women want to marry each other; why should I give a damn?

I agree with Ron Paul in this. Why is the government involved in marriage in the first place? Why do you have to pay the government a fee to get a license to marry? If my religion says a man can’t marry a man or a woman a woman, then the men in my religion can’t marry a man and the women in my religion can’t marry a woman. It is their choice to belong to that religion or not belong to it. But the government? Go away. My fellow citizens? Go away. I don’t want some jackass (make that millions of jackasses) telling me who I can marry and who I can’t marry.

Well, well, well what if you want to have several wives? What about that? Fine, fine, fine go have several wives. As an aside, any guy over 35 who wants several wives needs his head examined – PMS in one wife is enough to kill a man, imagine several? That is wholesale slaughter! Even Solomon, the wisest man in the world, a man who had over 700 wives (with concubines) wrote in his apocryphal book “The Wisdom of Solomon” that having more than one wife was the biggest pain in the ass he ever experienced.

Back to the point. Polygamy? Fine. Polyandry? Fine. State telling me who I can marry and how many of them I can marry? Not fine.

Now what about the argument that what if my religion or social beliefs encourage me to marry children? You know, little kids? No, that comes under the child abuse statutes. That statute should read simply, “Thou can’t screw kids.” In such cases the government and my fellow citizens have the right to protect the children. Yes, we can get into all sorts of definitions of what is or is not a child but still the idea that we should be screwing little kids is certainly one that finds disfavor with the overwhelming majority of our citizens. Here the law can step in as it can step in when a parent is abusing his or her children.

Will the allowing of gays to get married make our civilization deteriorate faster than it seems to be deteriorating now? No. Seriously, with illegitimacy approaching 75 percent among some groups and about 40 percent illegitimacy in the general population, throwing stones at gays is --- well, use this as a quote: “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” In fact, if the gays who are my acquaintances wanted to adopt those children whose parents are not around either because they are dead or just not around, then by all means adopt away. Being hugged by a gay father is just as comforting as being hugged by a straight father for a little kid.

But what about all those gay pride parades where jackasses dress up (or undress down to barely anything) and flaunt themselves all over the parade route in an obscene way? Aren’t these examples of the kinds of humans we will now be allowing to marry? Yeah, they are. They are also like the practically nude, slithering drunken heterosexuals enjoying their New Orleans experiences and the various strip clubs that exist all over the country where women pretend they are screwing metal poles for the edification of horny, drunken louts.

Licentiousness is not monopolized by licentious gays and lesbians. They have not cornered the market on lack of class. We find lack of class in all segments of society and in all manner of religions.

I think my gay friends should be allowed to get married. In fact, I think the government should get its paws off of the marriage laws and mind its own business. Fix the damn potholes but otherwise shut up already.

Quote: FrankScoblete

if you want to have several wives? What about that? Fine, fine, fine go have several wives

I completely disagree with you on this issue, but at least you're consistent in your views (re: the statement above), which I can respect. What I don't respect are all of the liberals I see on TV who go on and on about how gay marriage is all about equal rights, yet these very same liberals want to deny equal rights to polygamists who love each other. Talk about hypocrisy.

Whenever two persons decide for themselves they want to share their love and life together (with all consequences), they should not be restricted by some two-thousand year multi-trillion "company".

I laugh and laugh everytime my wife drags me to
another wedding. Suckers...

I never get over being bothered about what we shut down with the Mormons, etc.

That polygamy is banned in our country has always struck me as the right decision. The rightness of it has been internalized with me.

There's no way I am ever celebrating decisions like those today.

Quote: odiousgambit

That polygamy is banned in our country has always struck me as the right decision. The rightness of it has been internalized with me.

It is no longer banned at the Federal Level!

Quote: odiousgambit

I never get over being bothered about what we shut down with the Mormons, etc.

That polygamy is banned in our country has always struck me as the right decision. The rightness of it has been internalized with me.

There's no way I am ever celebrating decisions like those today.

My passing observation, is that in a "Christian" nation polygamy is actually more morally approved than homosexuality at least as far as I can make out from the practitioners of it in the Bible, and near neutrality of statements about it. I can see why the early Mormons didn't see much problem with it.

The Mormons might have had a shot a polygamy if so many weren't either pedophiles or condoned children getting married.