Played dice with Ahigh tonight.
And I have to say that Aaron is indeed totally legit, despite the "naysayers for the sake of being a naysayer" that can happen on forums.
He set the dice quickly, discreetly, and he threw a controlled lob to where the back wall meets the felt. Dice were cold, and it happens to all. I bet PL, placed inside points, sometimes across, and I made come bets, coming down with odds. But no one could get a long hand at the table; it happens. I also played the hardways, and I attempted a parley on the hard 4 to no avail. And to be honest, he too had some action on the hardways, not that "I'm telling on him" on this. No shame in that. Aaron also witnesseed me making Horn bets after a crap number was thrown, and yeah, I confess to that, too.
We had a meal at Fuego's, had fine conversation ("Aaron, besides programming, - are you considering joining the industry? The dealer school/part time route kind of thing?" He answered "Yes, perhaps, maybe." Got into a little thing where we asked "Does it help knowing dice before becoming a dealer, or it is better to enter as a clean slate?" kind of discussion. All in all a fine and relaxing night there). Then we played a few hands of EZ Pai Gow, although Aaron is purely and really, - almost exclusively - a true dice man. Good for him. And he tips, he's no stiff. I did tell him, "gotta learn ALL the games, - have a diversified portfolio."
edit -- unless i misread ahigh's other post, he implied he played crapless tonight.
Quote: sodawaterAs I understand it, you and ahigh played "Crapless craps" which carries a house edge of 5.40 percent compared to 1.40 percent for regular craps. that should tell you all you need to know about how "legit" this "AP craps" is.
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edit -- unless i misread ahigh's other post, he implied he played crapless tonight.
No, we played a standard Pass/Don't pass on a typical 12 foot crap table at Fiesta, off strip field bets and props, and vig on win only. A good game there. Basically line and place bets, and I made place bets with come bets to come down with odds. I played a few props, never any notice or criticism.
And Aaron was great at the table: A pleasure to deal to for the dealers, - and a pleasure to play along side with as a player; he never took shots or made claims, he never showed off, and he is very knowledgable but quiet on the game while at the table. Never steamed when the game got cold, either. Really. And the fact that he also promotes this game as well as he plays it was wonderful.
A guy like Aaron allows great sessions to happen when they happen, and is fine. We know that any player can get irate and contest things and when the crew breaks down in errors, but he never caused or introduced any problem on a smooth-playing game - when others would have or could have.
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But per your report, he showed no ability to control the dice.
Quote: MrVWhich is fine.
But per your report, he showed no ability to control the dice.
True. And while I believe that a truly 100% perfect (machine) automaton could make a difference, I also believe that no human, - under the control of a human nervous system - can indeed do so, and that it is OKAY to try it here, if okay with the boxman/dealers. If good with them, then good with us players here.
Certain people, - athletes, - like Tom Seaver and Roger Clemens CAN get to that state of "automaton near perfect" state in athletics, and win countless Cy youngs and win 300+ pitching duels - but I do not believe it is possible to get into that particular zone consistently as a dice thrower on a live crap game within a casino environement. Simply put, dice setting and control throws might be beyond the accuracy/capacity of the human nervous system, and it seems so to me. And so I do NOT begrudge people ("crap players like us!") for trying, if okay with the house; it's still clean play by the house, and it might make the edge here and there in a tiny percentage of sessions, but I personally do not believe it can be done to this state of perfection. But a quick and curteous dice setter/thrower who plays by the rules and is great at the table may try in my book, and often helps the game. If the house sees it as perfectly fine, - you know I do.
At the very least they are serious dice players who focus on the real game without hoopla and drunken shouting, and are - at the VERY least - the kind of crap players you do want with you, for a serious and focused crap session without the spilled drinks and shouting and "Ouh-Ya's - PUMP, Dude!" whenever you hit a point with a nickel on the line with a dime odds. I really do appreciate this, and guys like Aaron help at the table something beautiful! I know that we can contest stuff emotionally on a serious dealer error, and go nuts with money on the line, but hey, he was great when the dealers are great, and again, Aaron introduced NO issues or problems, was great to play with, and did have a steady and serious approach to the dice set and throw in an all-business fashion. Gotta respect this.
Aaron and I did discuss the serious kind of crap player - and without regard of whether dice setting/controlled throwing really works consistently or not. We discussed the "Breakfast Club" kind of crap players, - who, as a team, would meet at 7AM on a Sunday morning to play dice together simply to avoid all kinds of distraction and hoopla, - just to look for a GOOD and FOCUSED group of players for a good dice session. This includes quick dice setting and thoughtful lobs as a part of the practice. As strange as this may sound, this is NOT shot taking shots or doing AP, but instead just being serious about dice business.
I had a fanstastic roll (near perfect the only improvement would have been to bet bigger) after I went back to the table.
Yes I had $3,300 in the rail to win $200 in profit. Yes I was showing off my bankroll and I only used $40 of that $3,300 to win. No I was not doing it in front of Dan. Yes I shot fantastically after Dan left. Dan can ask Rick how well I shot and I am sure Rick will tell him. I shot from stick right one on a 100% empty table to win. When I was losing I was shooting on a table with other players from a less preferred position.
I will also tell you that I generally have a hard time throwing at the Fiesta and will willingly accept that it's luck more than anything that enables me to win there. I don't go there much any more. I would tell you the things that I don't like about that table, but I don't want to give ideas to anyone else in Vegas for how to mess up tables that I like.
please play 15-20 more sessions and lets keep a running total of profit please. Thank you.
Quote: Paigowdanhe threw a controlled lob to where the back wall meets the felt.
Are you saying he throws one long throw to the point where the table surface and the wall meet as if to form an "L"? And if so, how much of a bounce back from that point was there? Was it a bounce of an inch, three inches or more?
But I also thought Alan already knew so much about my throw I'm surprised he's asking questions.
Quote: AhighDan and I played together for a total of maybe 20 tosses of the dice. Dan arrived in the middle of my roll as I was already shooting. I only pressed while he was there and took no chips into the rail. I started with $20 and a $15 coupon, and then I bought in for another $100 and I left with a profit before we went to eat. All of my wins where while Dan was away. All of them. He was really itching to talk to the other dealers and to visit the Pai Gow table and I just wanted to toss dice.
This is true; when I arrived at the Fiesta, Aaron was already at the crap table mid-roll (one table left, there used to be two, but is now replace by a Bubble machine by the cage), and I only played through a few cold shooters (including both of us, really) for maybe 20 rolls, with more seven-outs than points hit. I wasn't "itching" to talk to the dealers and floormen, but I did work with these guys (and ladies) for years, and I do like them, great crew, - and sure, we just wanted to catch up. It was mostly "Danny, how ya doing now, you went from a table to an office in this business, and good for you, yada, yada yada."
Quote: AhighI had a fanstastic roll (near perfect the only improvement would have been to bet bigger) after I went back to the table.
Aaron may have. I went back home to the missus, (I had to, and I was fine with that), and Aaron stayed at the Fiesta, and back to the game.
Quote: AhighYes I had $3,300 in the rail to win $200 in profit. Yes I was showing off my bankroll. No I was not doing it in front of Dan.
The photo is $3,500 in black, (and Fiesta NEVER uses purple on its table games, and I will attest to this; I assure you all, IF I had seen purple on the Ahigh color-up photo at the cage, I would have been the first to cry "busted!"). Cage clerk had a bona-fide Fiesta name tag, same as I wore for years.
Quote: AhighYes I shot fantastically after Dan left.
*#%#$ ! Drats! ....Timing is everything in gambling, especially on dice. Hot and cold, gotta UTILIZE a hot hand when it shows up.
Quote: AhighDan can ask Rick how well I shot and I am sure Rick will tell him.
I believe you, Aaron....(Got his number on my cell, though)....while he cannot officially tell me, Rick and I may play some pool at the Rum Runner on Trop...we used to car pool together, (so that he need not take...THE BUS)...along with Chris R., now at CZR...another escapee from Fiesta. Rick...great guy, great crap dealer, nice to have on a game on either side, a real pro and a decent man. I may call Xxxx, though, to have lunch...
Quote: AhighI will also tell you that I generally have a hard time throwing at the Fiesta and will willingly accept that it's luck more than anything that enables me to win there. I don't go there much any more. I would tell you the things that I don't like about that table, but I don't want to give ideas to anyone else in Vegas for how to mess up tables that I like.
Aaron, it's just a crap table, they do not vacuum it every day I tell you, and it is truly a "typical casino house" crap table that one would see anywhere. The crap table that they DID remove in the second pit for the "Bubble machine" was nasty...If you're hitting the back wall crevice with a soft controlled throw, you're using a tiny percentage of the table in any case.
Quote: AlanMendelsonAre you saying he throws one long throw to the point where the table surface and the wall meet as if to form an "L"? And if so, how much of a bounce back from that point was there? Was it a bounce of an inch, three inches or more?
Aaron wasn't perfect, and some of his throws bounced back out of the apron area landing point. Some came back past the opposite wall's pass line stripe. And some stayed in that apron area by the "L" crevice. It's real hard.
And I gotta say, and give him credit, Aaron showed up and he threw for us, with real money on the line. I was there.
Why there of all places? do they still have free pool tournaments or are you in a league? I used to play there years ago possibility 93Quote: Paigowdan
I believe you, Aaron....(Got his number on my cell, though)....while he cannot officially tell me, Rick and I may play some pool at the Rum Runner on Trop...we used to car pool together, .
Dan,Quote: PaigowdanNo, we played a standard Pass/Don't pass on a typical 12 foot crap table at Fiesta
The following question naturally comes up: As a strong advocate for game integrity and a longtime professional in the field, did you suspect or note any aberrations in the dice, as has been reported here?
Quote: AxelWolfWhy there of all places? do they still have free pool tournaments or are you in a league? I used to play there years ago possibility 93Quote: Paigowdan
I believe you, Aaron....(Got his number on my cell, though)....while he cannot officially tell me, Rick and I may play some pool at the Rum Runner on Trop...we used to car pool together, .
Rick is in a league there, and it's a friendly place a few blocks from my home.
Quote: SanchoPanzaDan,
The following question naturally comes up: As a strong advocate for game integrity and a longtime professional in the field, did you suspect or note any aberrations in the dice, as has been reported here?
None whatsoever. Certified 100% clean during the time I was on the table with him, and from what I saw. And a sharp, by the book floorman worked all swing shift. No issue or anything. He lost a little during the time I was with him, but hey, the dice were cold. I wasn't there later after dinner when he won. But I never heard a complaint about him, and the crew was happy to see him, and friendly towards him.
Quote: MrVAnother couple of questions: did Aaron ask you to address him as "The Captain of Craps" when he is at the craps table, and that you identify yourself to the dealers and fellow players as a member of his "crew?"
Aaron was perfectly humble, and just a regular guy at the table while he played. I saw absolutely no indication of grandeur or hot-headedness at all. He just played.
If he had a lossing session, he could discuss that, too, for a little balance. We all have 'em.
Quote: PaigowdanTrue. And while I believe that a truly 100% perfect (machine) automaton could make a difference, I also believe that no human, - under the control of a human nervous system - can indeed do so, and that it is OKAY to try it here, if okay with the boxman/dealers. If good with them, then good with us players here.
I still want to test this theory. If only I had the time and resources.
Quote: PaigowdanQuote: AxelWolfWhy there of all places? do they still have free pool tournaments or are you in a league? I used to play there years ago possibility 93Quote: Paigowdan
I believe you, Aaron....(Got his number on my cell, though)....while he cannot officially tell me, Rick and I may play some pool at the Rum Runner on Trop...we used to car pool together, .
Rick is in a league there, and it's a friendly place a few blocks from my home.
The Putter's bar at Trop&Eastern is close, has a nicer atmosphere, better clientele, better pool tables, and they are only 50 cents a game. My pool league is based out of there.
Quote: PaigowdanAaron was perfectly humble, and just a regular guy at the table while he played. I saw absolutely no indication of grandeur or hot-headedness at all. He just played.
If he had a lossing session, he could discuss that, too, for a little balance. We all have 'em.
As I expected.
In the real world, we don't all match our internet personas.
Quote: PaigowdanHe lost a little during the time I was with him, but hey, the dice were cold. I wasn't there later after dinner when he won.
Seems pretty predictable.
Basicly what you are saying in the original post is what everyone has been saying in every recent craps thread for the last few months:
Ahigh is probabably a nice guy in real llfe - Confirmed by you.
Ahigh shows no control or influence on his throw. - Confirmed by you.
This is like "deja vu all over again".
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13Seems pretty predictable.
Basicly what you are saying in the original post is what everyone has been saying in every recent craps thread for the last few months:
Ahigh is probabably a nice guy in real llfe - Confirmed by you.
Ahigh shows no control or influence on his throw. - Confirmed by you.
This is like "deja vu all over again".
ZCore13
Confirmed 100% within 20 rolls. Great demonstration of your using data for support rather than illumination.
Quote: AhighConfirmed 100% within 20 rolls. Great demonstration of your using data for support rather than illumination.
You've shown NO control in any shot ever witnessed on video either. That's HUNDREDS of rolls.
If it's not 20 rolls and it's not hundreds of rolls, when exactly are you going to show one legal roll that doesn't roll around randomly after hitting the back wall and results in what you are trying for? Just one...
ZCore13
Sounds like you guys had fun at the Fiesta. That's one of my favorite casinos, in spite of the hybrid craps table/trampoline.
Quote: Zcore13You've shown NO control in any shot ever witnessed on video either. That's HUNDREDS of rolls. If it's not 20 rolls and it's not hundreds of rolls, when exactly are you going to show one legal roll that doesn't roll around randomly after hitting the back wall and results in what you are trying for? Just one...
Go to Ahigh's blog. On April 5th, he posted all of his rolls. I think that he has video footage to back up the records.
7craps made a chart that clearly shows that Ahigh's SRR to be consistently riding one the edge of the SD2 range for the last 1500 rolls (of 3000). That's pretty damn good.
I think that Ahigh's SRR jumped to the edge of SD2 when he changed his set, but I am sure that he would deny/downplay that notion.
Quote: Zcore13You've shown NO control in any shot ever witnessed on video either. That's HUNDREDS of rolls.
If it's not 20 rolls and it's not hundreds of rolls, when exactly are you going to show one legal roll that doesn't roll around randomly after hitting the back wall and results in what you are trying for? Just one...
ZCore13
I enjoy reading your comments more and more the more I realize how ignorant you are of what I'm doing.
Quote: tuppGo to Ahigh's blog. On April 5th, he posted all of his rolls. I think that he has video footage to back up the records.
7craps made a chart that clearly shows that Ahigh's SRR to be consistently riding one the edge of the SD2 range for the last 1500 rolls (of 3000). That's pretty damn good.
I think that Ahigh's SRR jumped to the edge of SD2 when he changed his set, but I am sure that he would deny/downplay that notion.
He does not down play it and that is the problem. He's been VERY lucky. I (and many others) have watched hundreds of his shots, including many in slow motion. Not one has ever shown to have any hint of control. They hit the back wall and separate, roll randomly independently in differnt directions.
Quote: AhighI enjoy reading your comments more and more the more I realize how ignorant you are of what I'm doing.
I think most people would subsititute "embarrased" for ignorant, but they're your words, so you can say whatever you want.
ZCore13
Quote: tupp7craps made a chart that clearly shows that Ahigh's SRR to be consistently riding one the edge of the SD2 range for the last 1500 rolls (of 3000). That's pretty damn good.
I think that Ahigh's SRR jumped to the edge of SD2 when he changed his set, but I am sure that he would deny/downplay that notion.Quote: Zcore13He does not down play it and that is the problem.
Really?
Please link to a post in which Ahigh even mentions that his last 1500 rolls were on the edge of the SD2 range and/or in which he talks about how that run relates to the moment he changed his set.
Quote: Zcore13He's been VERY lucky.
I think that Ahigh would agree with you, judging from the way that he never claims to be a dice controller and from the way that he repeatedly says he has been lucky.
Consequently, one can't help but wonder: what exactly is your continual objection to Ahigh?
Quote: Zcore13I (and many others) have watched hundreds of his shots, including many in slow motion. Not one has ever shown to have any hint of control. They hit the back wall and separate, roll randomly independently in differnt directions.
Perhaps your rigid notion of the form of a controlled toss might not include that of all possible dice influence.
Quote: Zcore13I think most people would subsititute "embarrased" for ignorant, but they're your words, so you can say whatever you want.
Maybe the problem actually is that you just have something against Ahigh.
Quote: AhighI enjoy reading your comments more and more the more I realize how ignorant you are of what I'm doing.
ahigh -- You have lost all shreds of credibility as anything other than a recreational gambler, and a bad one at that. You willingly play a craps game with a house edge that's 400% higher than the normal game, because you "like the attention and the challenge." No sane person who is chasing profits would play a game with a 5.40 percent edge when a game with a 1.40 percent edge is available.
So, you've basically admitted it. You like the fun of the casinos. You are not in it for a profit, and you are not even in it to see if dice control works. You are purely playing dice for social validation and diversion.
And there is nothing wrong with that! But you have forfeited all and any right to claim you are doing anything other than blowing your money, simply by trying to defend crapless craps over normal craps. So please don't tell Zcore that he is ignorant of what you are trying to do. You, yourself, seem not to know what you're trying to do.
Quote: PaigowdanAnd while I believe that a truly 100% perfect (machine) automaton could make a difference, I also believe that no human, - under the control of a human nervous system - can indeed do so, and that it is OKAY to try it here, if okay with the boxman/dealers. If good with them, then good with us players here.
This position or statement seems inconsistent with your well-known beliefs about advantage play.
You have argued passionately and fervently that advantage play through card counting is unethical and wrong--and not in the spirit of the blackjack game in which the house has the edge.
You have gone further to state that all casino games have an inherent house edge that must be preserved in order for casinos to survive. (I know I am paraphrasing here, but for me to quote everything you have said on this subject would entail many, many pages.)
However, you now seem to say, here, that it is acceptable for a craps player to "try" to control the dice in order to achieve an advantage--though admittedly you do not believe dice control is humanly possible.
Maybe I misunderstood you and you intended to say that it is acceptable for a shooter to only set the dice, so long as he does not actually achieve control.
You and I (and others) have debated the issue of advantage play and ethics. I have understood your position that legally permitted advantage play of any kind is clearly wrong and must not be condoned or allowed by casino management.
Those that embrace the concept of dice control (with a legally acceptable throw) generally believe this is the only way to achieve an advantage or edge in craps.
How then, Dan, do you now say it is OKAY for a player to try to achieve an advantage over the house through control of the dice (regardless of the fact that you do not believe dice control is humanly possible)? If you believe that suspected card counters should be banned for their unethical play in trying to overcome the house edge, then why would you not also ban suspected dice controllers who are trying to achieve the same thing--overcome the house edge?
Quote: tuppReally?
Please link to a post in which Ahigh even mentions that his last 1500 rolls were on the edge of the SD2 range and/or in which he talks about how that run relates to the moment he changed his set.
I think that Ahigh would agree with you, judging from the way that he never claims to be a dice controller and from the way that he repeatedly says he has been lucky.
Consequently, one can't help but wonder: what exactly is your continual objection to Ahigh?
Perhaps your rigid notion of the form of a controlled toss might not include that of all possible dice influence.
Maybe the problem actually is that you just have something against Ahigh.
The problem is he's not credible. You obviously have not paid attention or watched his show when he says he does influence more hard tens or that he consistantly wins becuase of his hardway set.
So it's really simple... Show just one roll that shows control or influence from release to final resting spot. Just one example. Until then, he and everyone else to claim they can control/influence are not credible. JUST ONE. Nothing more.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13The problem is he's not credible. You obviously have not paid attention or watched his show when he says he does influence more hard tens or that he consistantly wins becuase of his hardway set.
How ironic (not sure if laughably or sadly).
I was the only other person physically present at the show in which Ahigh was trying to roll hard tens. I was operating the highspeed camera with the dice landing to my left and Ahigh shooting on my right. I could see and hear everything that transpired.
Ahigh never said that he influences more hard tens -- he said that he had a series of hard tens earlier in the day at the casino, and that he was going to try for hard tens. In fact, he got more than the mathematically expected amount of hard tens. He also got way more sevens than usual.
One of us certainly was not paying attention (and, perhaps, one of us is "not credible.)"
In regards to Ahigh claiming that he consistently wins because of his hardway set, please link such statements.
Quote: Zcore13So it's really simple... Show just one roll that shows control or influence from release to final resting spot. Just one example. Until then, he and everyone else to claim they can control/influence are not credible. JUST ONE. Nothing more.
Well, again, one of us is not paying attention:
Quote: tupp
ZCore13
Especially the mere THOUGHT that Pai Gow Dan's observations mean ANYTHING AT ALL about my ability to shoot the dice with an edge.
First and foremost, I absolutely do NOT claim to have an advantage shot at Fiesta Henderson, nor have I ever made that claim.
I let Dan know at the time and I even posted in my report that I won $200 that it was luck.
The idea that you could use even a 100 roll session to prove anything is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.
The whole line of reasoning using this meeting to draw ANY CONCLUSIONS AT ALL about the possibility to have an advantage shot is absolutely a public display of how desperate the critics are to discredit the results of my research into the theory of dice control.
There are PLENTY of tables in this town where I have absolutely no personal hope to deliver a controlled shot. I'm not going to rattle off every one of them or even tell you why, but each table is different and my ability to perform varies from table to table and can change when they change the felt to a new felt. The new felt can be easier or it can be harder. It depends on what you are more practiced on IMO.
But you guys wanting to get a conclusion from this chance meeting and using it as any form of evidence just have your ignorance on public display.
I apprecate Tupp's words, but they aren't even necessary. It's just laughable the whole discussion trying to discredit me.
Quote: Zcore13So it's really simple... Show just one roll that shows control or influence from release to final resting spot. Just one example. Until then, he and everyone else to claim they can control/influence are not credible. JUST ONE. Nothing more.
No.
Show us a you tube video of you talking into the camera about some of this stuff so we know you're not just a spam bot.
You do some work!
Quote: sodawaterahigh -- You have lost all shreds of credibility as anything other than a recreational gambler, and a bad one at that. You willingly play a craps game with a house edge that's 400% higher than the normal game, because you "like the attention and the challenge." No sane person who is chasing profits would play a game with a 5.40 percent edge when a game with a 1.40 percent edge is available.
So, you've basically admitted it. You like the fun of the casinos. You are not in it for a profit, and you are not even in it to see if dice control works. You are purely playing dice for social validation and diversion.
And there is nothing wrong with that! But you have forfeited all and any right to claim you are doing anything other than blowing your money, simply by trying to defend crapless craps over normal craps. So please don't tell Zcore that he is ignorant of what you are trying to do. You, yourself, seem not to know what you're trying to do.
Hey Sodawater! I thought you stopped participating in these discussions. I find it entertaining that I am not allowed to gamble for fun in order for me to be credible! This is a big reason why showing money doesn't mean anything at all except that I got lucky. You have to flat bet and only on your own rolls and consistently for it to mean anything. And even then the sequence of sevens means as much as the ratio of them in the short term. This is the reason I put my money into creating the ahigh show. You are grasping at straws saying that in order to have credibility I am disallowed from having fun gambling.
Also, comparing 5.40 (it's actually 5.38) to 1.40 (it's actually 1.41) shows that you know absolutely nothing about the comparison of edges between craps and crapless.
It's 0.42% per roll compared to 1.29% per roll, and you would know that if you had been following my posts. So it's 3.07x higher cost per pass line bet not 3.86x as you imply. You're just wrong on that one.
In addition, you can have a smaller percentage of rolls that is the comeout roll which reduces the multiple to below 3x as well.
Again, you would know this if you had been following along with the work I am doing to demonstrate the details in the edges of crapless.
There is someone who lacks credibility in this discussion, but if you look at who knows what he's talking about, it's not you in this particular case.
Quote: RogerKintI have something against Ahigh: He needs to put more of that smooth, audio chocolate on the air.
I assume you're saying that I have a good voice for interviews? Assuming that's the case, thank you very much.
Quote: IbeatyouracesAnother damn DI/DC thread, great!
I don't see it that way. I think this has become a "blanket party for Ahigh" thread. This isn't even about DI/DC. This is about "let's all gang up on Ahigh."
It's damn annoying to be honest with you all the pop shots being taken at me. As lame as many of them are, it's like kids on a schoolbus screaming out the window as the bus drives by. No engagement, no serious contemplation, group mentality, just as they are passing by creating trouble as juveniles love to do.
Quote: AhighI enjoy reading your comments more and more the more I realize how ignorant you are of what I'm doing.
Aaron I know you're a nice guy, we've spoken on the phone even though we haven't met face to face. (Though you did see me at Caesars but refrained from saying hello.)
But when I read comments like "the more I realize how ignorant you are of what I'm doing" I can only think about Rob Singer explaining to people why he was able to win a million dollars at video poker in defiance of the math of the game. Rob says things like you don't understand my system, and you don't play my way, and things like I have a method that works for me, and what I do is unique.
Well, you have put your videos online and the rest of us have watched them, and you claim to have some particular great success with dice which you say is not just random luck. And when we want to find out why? You give us explanations that don't "add up" and when we question your explanations and your videos you come back with "I realize how ignorant you are of what I'm doing."
And you are 100% correct Aaron. I am totally ignorant of what you are doing. I have asked you -- and now I will plead with you -- to use your equipment and show us the control you have with your dice. Prove that what you are doing is controlled and make us understand what the control is that we are looking at.
You might indeed have control except it's not what I and I am guessing others have expected to be "control."
I've said it a hundred times over, having good results and having a great SRR does not indicate any control at all. Random shooters can have marvelous SRR and monster rolls. Heck my last two times playing CARD CRAPS which is a totally random game where setting and throws and trying to control dice has NO impact on the game, I hit the fire bet for five numbers and then hit the fire bet for four numbers. That is only proof that random dice can have great results.
I have asked several times for you just to put up ONE video of ONE throw that shows what I think is a controlled shot. Okay, I can accept that you have a DIFFERENT KIND of "controlled shot" IF you can show us this CONTROLLED SHOT in slow motion and tell us why it is CONTROLLED. Otherwise I can only think you are a random player who has had a run of good luck.
And unfortunately, your run of good luck really hasn't been that good. You have several "random roll records" to beat before you can claim any fame. So far, I'm sorry to say, you haven't reported any five-figure or six-figure wins and I've seen plenty of them... and had two five-figure wins myself.
I have turned $12 into $250 on many many occasions. I usually do small buy-ins and try to win big multiples because it's more fun.
The initial money might mean more to the player, but $12 to $250 means the same as $3,500 to $70,000 to me. Especially when I have more than $3,500 in resources to double up on if I fail.
I did $12 to $250 completely random rolling and I posted about it. It was fun.
Don't think I don't know that you can get lucky and it proves nothing!
Don't think I don't know you can have and show money and it proves nothing!
Quote: AlanMendelsonPlease Aaron, don't get sidetracked. Are you going to put up a video and explain why your shot is "controlled"? A simple yes or no. Thank you.
Dude. Why don't you do a show. Where is it that I say that my shot is controlled anyway? The only thing I ever talk about is theoretical bias.
Why do you treat me like I'm trying to sell people on the whole idea of how great a shooter I am?
You and your comments really are a kill-joy for me.
Quote: AhighDude. Why don't you do a show. Where is it that I say that my shot is controlled anyway? The only thing I ever talk about is theoretical bias.
Why do you treat me like I'm trying to sell people on the whole idea of how great a shooter I am?
You and your comments really are a kill-joy for me.
I just wanted to copy your comments. I think this ends the conversation. Sorry to have killed your fun.
Quote: AlanMendelsonI just wanted to copy your comments. I think this ends the conversation. Sorry to have killed your fun.
Somehow I doubt that you're sorry. I think that you really enjoy spoiling my efforts.
I really honestly and truly do, Alan.
I'll mention it again, but your perception that the last show was a "disaster" had an effect on my motivation to continue.
Not the actual results, but what you said about them.
If you truly understand that, and you continue to make the comments that you make, I don't know, but I think I would have to believe you enjoy spoiling it for me.
If it turns out that I have zero control and my shooting turns south and I start losing and you are right and I am wrong, I will be honest in letting you know about it.
But so far, the worst that you can claim is just that I'm lucky and being misled by my good fortune.
Unfortunately, that good fortune doesn't extend to people making negative comments that put me in a foul mood like those that you and others make about the very time consuming and labor intensive work that I am doing for the benefit of you and others on this forum.
So if I am lucky, it doesn't extend towards my interactions with you specifically. My luck with you is absolutely lacking.
That may sound simple or true in theory, but as a practical matter--especially at a craps table--I think that is entirely not true.Quote: AhighI have turned $12 into $250 on many many occasions....but $12 to $250 means the same as $3,500 to $70,000
I believe each person has their own "comfort level" when it comes to how much they are willing to bet and put at risk. What that amount may be can be based on a myriad of factors and influences--the personality and nature of the player; size of bankroll; amount of savings or other assets to fall back on; amount of personal income; amount of debt obligations; family obligations; spousal support; etc., etc.
It is one thing for a player to bet a couple of hundred dollars and something entirely different for the same player to bet in the mid five figures (assuming the table limits are that high). To turn $3,500 into $70,000 in the "same" way that you turn $12 into $250 generally will necessitate substantial betting levels. For most people, that sort of betting action well exceeds their "comfort level."
And such a "comfort level" may be revised downward for a lot of people. I expect there are countless stories of players who have been lulled or persuaded into betting more and more as the result of a sustained lucky streak and when they get "spanked" big time with a huge loss, it serves as a wake up call.
There is nothing wrong in bragging about your success in turning $12 into $250. (Congratulations to you.) But--in my view--that is not anything close to being the same as $3,500 into $70,000.
You know, with dice staying on axis yadda yadda yadda.
You won't; you can't.
All you crave is attention.
Sad.
So much ado about ... nothing.
