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treetopbuddy
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April 17th, 2013 at 3:16:41 PM permalink
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RonC
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April 17th, 2013 at 3:44:32 PM permalink
I picked the latter because every thread about that game tends to head towards that subject. Once a works/doesn't work opinion is posted, it draws the other side to post their position. We already know everyone who cares to add their 2 cents worth's opinion; it has become a worthless rehash.

My suggestion: give them one thread. Lock any other thread that discusses the issue. Teach everyone to keep that conversation in that thread.

I bet even this one will get opinions one way or the other but I am being careful not to go there...
Ahigh
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April 17th, 2013 at 3:55:53 PM permalink
Unlike others, I have not read both threads, so I can't vote.

I know before opening the thread I don't care about gun control.

Having not read anything about it, there's nothing to dislike.
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RonC
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April 17th, 2013 at 3:58:37 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Unlike others, I have not read both threads, so I can't vote.

I know before opening the thread I don't care about gun control.

Having not read anything about it, there's nothing to dislike.



The problem is that the gun control thread is rather contained; EVERY thread about craps seems to devolve into that other discussion even if it starts being about something different...
MrV
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April 17th, 2013 at 4:00:05 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

The problem is that the gun control thread is rather contained; EVERY thread about craps seems to devolve into that other discussion even if it starts being about something different...



And this is wrong ... why?
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Ahigh
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April 17th, 2013 at 4:01:49 PM permalink
So you're saying you want to participate in a discussion on dice, but you find that all the dice discussions are .. wait, I think I'm confused.

Do you play craps, Ron? Or you're just reading about craps even though you don't care and then complaining about it.

I just voted that I dislike the craps discussions the most because I don't know anything at all about the gun discussions.
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RonC
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April 17th, 2013 at 4:05:39 PM permalink
It is just about the only game I play in the casino.

I'm not complaining about threads ABOUT craps; I am just saying that every one of them seems to be headed in a discussion of one specific craps topic lately. There are lots of things about craps I enjoy reading about...how people bet, dealers, playing conditions, etc.

You are not confused at all--you are a smart guy.
Mosca
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April 17th, 2013 at 4:20:53 PM permalink
Sorry, can't help. Didn't look in either one.
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Ahigh
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April 17th, 2013 at 4:51:09 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

It is just about the only game I play in the casino.

I'm not complaining about threads ABOUT craps; I am just saying that every one of them seems to be headed in a discussion of one specific craps topic lately. There are lots of things about craps I enjoy reading about...how people bet, dealers, playing conditions, etc.

You are not confused at all--you are a smart guy.



No, seriously. I dislike a lot of those threads too!

We have a thread where the majority of people say that they believe advantage play craps is impossible.

If it were the kind of thing where a proof were existing either way, maybe there would be more interest in other subjects.

Even if the Wizard put his foot down and said, "I have enough evidence that I now believe advantage play is possible, the debate is over" a lot of these discussions could go away.

This didn't just start here on this forum. Other forums that talk about craps don't have these pointless arguments where people claim they believe in unproven theories about what's impossible.

It's pretty much just something very special about this forum where all the intelligent people insist that something is impossible without any way to prove that their belief system is not flawed.

It makes for some entertainment, but I'd like to get to a point where people can accept that it's possible and move on to other conversations myself.
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April 17th, 2013 at 5:42:41 PM permalink
(1) I don't read the religion threads. I have no interest in watching people bicker about topics in which no one is likely ever to have a chance to get the other to change his/her mind.

(2) The threads that focus on whether dice control/influencing is or is not achievable, advantageous, etc. are very much like the discussions of religion. Until someone absolutely proves their position to the satisfaction of an opponent (never gonna happen), the argument is just going to continue.

(3) For the past several months, every discussion of craps that goes beyond half a dozen posts, even something as innocent as the difference in the HE on a place bet 5 vs. a hard 10, seems to degenerate into a discussion/argument about dice control. I've had way more than enough of that, so I stop reading any thread as soon as the topic comes up.

(4) There have only been one or two threads that I have noticed on the topic of gun control. I haven't read any of the posts in those threads; the whole topic seemed ripe for heated, irrational arguments. (Is that the way it turned out?) I really don't care to read any thread that is primarily members arguing/fighting/attacking rather than asking/informing/discussing.

I didn't vote, because there wasn't an option for "All of the above."
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April 17th, 2013 at 6:21:33 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

(1) I don't read the religion threads. I have no interest in watching people bicker about topics in which no one is likely ever to have a chance to get the other to change his/her mind.

(4) There have only been one or two threads that I have noticed on the topic of gun control. I haven't read any of the posts in those threads; the whole topic seemed ripe for heated, irrational arguments. (Is that the way it turned out?) I really don't care to read any thread that is primarily members arguing/fighting/attacking rather than asking/informing/discussing.



#1 - Almost guaranteed, but I and FrG I think have learned much from each other, both being from polar opposite sides of the subject. Some threads go bad, but many have had very good discussion in them.

#4 - There were certainly moments where the thread went silly and I almost thought it was going to end itself, but the gun thread had some great moments and is still kicking. Was there fighting? Sure. Attacking? Not so much. Informing / discussing? In spades.
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onenickelmiracle
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April 17th, 2013 at 7:16:03 PM permalink
I dislike this thread the most because it is a thread about the forum. Threads about forums themselves are similar to the news organizations becoming the story. It defeats the purpose.
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Ahigh
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April 17th, 2013 at 7:18:19 PM permalink
The thing *I* don't like about this thread is that it seems to be one of many possible replacements for name-calling.

There are many. One interpretation for this thread is, "Ahigh is an ass who constantly posts about craps and I don't like him at all. Who's with me on this?"
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RonC
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April 17th, 2013 at 7:29:14 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

There are many. One interpretation for this thread is, "Ahigh is an ass who constantly posts about craps and I don't like him at all? Who's with me on this?"



So this thread is about you? I thought it was an opinion on which kind of threads people liked the least. You may post frequently to one of those choices (as a poster to one or the other of the threads/types of threads)--and I may be also-- but it isn't about us individually, just how the threads seem to go off on a tangent and never return.

To me, it is like the God/No God thread...one thread is okay but how would it be if every single thread became a discussion of the same thing?
Ahigh
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April 17th, 2013 at 7:41:57 PM permalink
Yeah, it must be confirmation of my recent clinical diagnoses from a member of this forum that I am a narcissist: "it's all about me."
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SanchoPanza
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April 17th, 2013 at 8:23:05 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Yeah, it must be confirmation of my recent clinical diagnoses from a member of this forum that I am a narcissist: "it's all about me."

You've had more than one? Or is that part of the cognitive dissonance?
EvenBob
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April 17th, 2013 at 8:28:13 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

"Ahigh is an ass who constantly posts about craps and I don't like him at all. Who's with me on this?"



ME! I voted it in the poll...
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P90
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April 18th, 2013 at 3:26:31 AM permalink
Neither of these. Out of WoV threads, I dislike:
1) This thread
2) HB challenge thread
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AxelWolf
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April 18th, 2013 at 4:01:56 AM permalink
This will soon turn into a DI thread
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
boymimbo
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April 18th, 2013 at 4:26:03 AM permalink
Or a gun control thread. Perhaps both should collide and like matter and anti-matter, destroy each other.
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April 19th, 2013 at 12:28:45 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Or a gun control thread. Perhaps both should collide and like matter and anti-matter, destroy each other.


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April 21st, 2013 at 5:36:30 PM permalink
Thread control. Usually ends in Nazis or Hitler in a (non)random roll of the dice about tipping dealers and whatnot.
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