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July 28th, 2012 at 8:42:20 PM permalink
Anything special in this town by chance? I just found out I'm going tomorrow. I would appreciate any advice/info, thanks in advance guys.
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July 28th, 2012 at 8:52:30 PM permalink
Nope. Absolutely nothing at all. I am there twice a week. Cactus Pete's, which is owned by Ameristar. Horseshu across the street is sister property. However, if you talk to Michael or Brandon in player development, they will take great care of you.

Craps is generally $5 min, could be $10 on Sunday afternoon.

Have fun though, there are worse places in the world that you could end up.
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July 28th, 2012 at 8:57:01 PM permalink
Quote: avargov

Have fun though, there are worse places in the world that you could end up.


they should put this on the billboard as you drive into town...
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July 28th, 2012 at 9:02:05 PM permalink
I will bring that up the next time I am there. On second thought, I bet the folks (low level casino workers) who live in the trailer park a little south of CP's may not think there is a worse place. I am glad I just pass through and use the free rooms, would hate to have Fate knock me in the head and wind up stuck there....sheesh!!!
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July 28th, 2012 at 9:03:57 PM permalink
Do you know of the rules about buying the four and ten? I would like to find one that collects the vig on win only.
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July 28th, 2012 at 9:13:04 PM permalink
Good luck finding that in Jackpot.
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July 28th, 2012 at 9:42:40 PM permalink
Don't forget Barton's Club 93. And they use Mountain Time there.
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July 28th, 2012 at 9:50:40 PM permalink
Thanks guys, now I know I won't have to worry about where to go... Just tolerate where we end up.
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July 31st, 2012 at 2:31:38 AM permalink
Amazing might here but let me get the rules down while I remember.

Bartons has a solid single deck game. 3:2, double down on any two, resplit anything except aces where you only get one card and can't. Their craps is $3 min, they don't allow buy bets and full double odds. There's a cheap 24 hour diner I'm sitting in right now that's similar to Denny's but much better food.

Casino Pete's is an Ameristar property who has a partnership with MGM*, has $5 craps and 3,4,5 odds. Long story short, I saw a $1500 swing there that saved my night... So I will have fond memories of the place. Also, craps tables shut down overnight at both properties. FYI: a male craps virgin I was teaching led me on that swing :D.

So my final verdict? There are worse places you could end up and if for some reason you're in the area, hit up bartons. They have about 50% penetration on that single Decker with a $200 max and amazing dealers.

* Originally called it an MGM property, the reason for the following discussion.
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July 31st, 2012 at 2:39:15 AM permalink
Oh and the buy bet at casino pete's is commission always. I don't have access to a car and I don't want to walk down a mile down an interstate at night. Lastly before I eat my pizza: there's a crosswalk without a light across the four lane interstate. I feel like Frogger crossing it, those cars come upon you damn fast.
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July 31st, 2012 at 4:13:36 AM permalink
CP is not an MGM property. They are owned by ameristar. They are partnered with MGM to offer Vegas comps to Idaho players. A very limited partnership.

Edit: unless mgm bought ameristar in the past couple of weeks without my knowledge. If I remember correctly, ameristar has no other presence in Nevada other than in jackpot. Perhaps someone cam verify this.
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July 31st, 2012 at 6:01:00 AM permalink
I never signed up for a player's card, my friends were absolutely sure that it was MGM and I saw something MGM in there... But I didn't do that much research at all. I could definitely buy the limited partnership thing so that's probably the situation.
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July 31st, 2012 at 12:49:33 PM permalink
Congrats on the rebound! I'm sorry if I missed it, but why did you go to Jackpot, and how come you don't have a car on this excursion? It doesn't strike me as a "destination", unless you are an opal prospector.
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July 31st, 2012 at 12:56:51 PM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

I never signed up for a player's card, my friends were absolutely sure that it was MGM and I saw something MGM in there... But I didn't do that much research at all. I could definitely buy the limited partnership thing so that's probably the situation.



I know where the confusion is. Behind the player's club, they have a poster showing what benefits you can get from your M Life account once you sign up by showing them your Plateau Player's Club card. When I did this back in May (I received an offer of 2 free weekend night at the Bellagio, Aria, or somewhere else and $500 free play). When I accepted the offer, I had to show my Elite Plateau Card, and was given an M Life account at the Platinum level. I thought it should have been NOIR! Anyway, I can't complain since I haven't placed a bet of any sort since December with my own money, just the free play to kill time and drink a beer. I just use my comped rooms at CP's when I drive through now. Plus they give me free play twice a month on my card.
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July 31st, 2012 at 4:16:56 PM permalink
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I know where the confusion is. Behind the player's club, they have a poster showing what benefits you can get from your M Life account once you sign up by showing them your Plateau Player's Club card. When I did this back in May (I received an offer of 2 free weekend night at the Bellagio, Aria, or somewhere else and $500 free play). When I accepted the offer, I had to show my Elite Plateau Card, and was given an M Life account at the Platinum level. I thought it should have been NOIR!

That's a sweet deal. How did you manage to get to the Elite level at CP?
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July 31st, 2012 at 5:04:37 PM permalink
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Congrats on the rebound! I'm sorry if I missed it, but why did you go to Jackpot, and how come you don't have a car on this excursion? It doesn't strike me as a "destination", unless you are an opal prospector.



Thanks, but I ended out only making a few bucks because blackjack killed me. I am visiting friends in Twin Falls and they were were sleeping, so I was on foot after midnight or so (tried to play through the night but I lost a grand flat betting $10 and playing BS, decided to leave with fifty bucks or so).
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July 31st, 2012 at 5:12:39 PM permalink
Quote: avargov

CP is not an MGM property. They are owned by ameristar. They are partnered with MGM to offer Vegas comps to Idaho players. A very limited partnership.

Edit: unless mgm bought ameristar in the past couple of weeks without my knowledge. If I remember correctly, ameristar has no other presence in Nevada other than in jackpot. Perhaps someone cam verify this.

Ameristar is HQed in Las Vegas, but Jackpot is all Ameristar has for Nevada properties.

We partnered with M-Life to do what avargov said. Vice-Versa, regular MGM players in Vegas can earn comps and free stays in Ameristar's markets--most of which are in the midwest.
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July 31st, 2012 at 5:22:42 PM permalink
I just want to say one more thing about the single deck game at bartons. Their penetration was closer to 75% than 50% and I saw people spreading ten to one all day, I'm not a counter but I think with a bit of work someone could have a lot of fun, again limit is pretty low at $200 so you can't make a killing.
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July 31st, 2012 at 5:25:33 PM permalink
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Thanks, but I ended out only making a few bucks because blackjack killed me. I am visiting friends in Twin Falls and they were were sleeping, so I was on foot after midnight or so (tried to play through the night but I lost a grand flat betting $10 and playing BS, decided to leave with fifty bucks or so).

Dude, that's horrible. Even at 100/hands an hour, over six hours of play you have a 0.07% chance of losing 100 units. You should have tried a high-limit slot after that.
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July 31st, 2012 at 6:53:06 PM permalink
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That's a sweet deal. How did you manage to get to the Elite level at CP?



Tons and tons and tons of sports bets during college football season....a good amount of craps....and it doesn't hurt to be good friends with a club supervisor.

I won't maintain it tho, since I have stopped betting....just playing out the string now
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July 31st, 2012 at 7:09:02 PM permalink
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Dude, that's horrible. Even at 100/hands an hour, over six hours of play you have a 0.07% chance of losing 100 units. You should have tried a high-limit slot after that.



600 hands sounds right, closer to 80 hands per hour and eight hours. I hadn't played a face down game before, so on my first hand I tucked my hand and accidentally and stood on a five. Other than that, only deviated from BS on a few soft hands.
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