My gripe: Reading the same mrjjj post copied and pasted into 10 different threads.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:23:26 AM
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I understand you are passionate, but I think it's a time waster, spam, bad etiquette and downright rude. A little consideration for other posters would be nice.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:42:05 AM
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You left something out, big surprise. lol Alot of time, a poster will ask me to REPEAT the question. Granted, I press because I dont get an answer BUT some do ask me to repeat it. You left that piece of information out of your gripe. Ken
September 18th, 2010 at 2:49:26 AM
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Quote: mrjjjYou left something out, big surprise. lol Alot of time, a poster will ask me to REPEAT the question. Granted, I press because I dont get an answer BUT some do ask me to repeat it. You left that piece of information out of your gripe. Ken
How about the fact that some people do answer your question in one thread, yet you hound them for answers again in other threads? It's beyond ridiculous. The point is entire pages of threads get lost due to you rampage of multiple postings. I end up reading the same thread over and over but with a different topic title each time. Is this how you normally get your point across? I just find it irritating. Besides, other people ask you questions in those threads yet you ignore them and continue to ruin/steer the conversation in to your off topic direction of choice.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:58:23 AM
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Wrong answer. The *BULK* of non-important posts, are the ones that insult others. Take those away and YES, you can eliminate alot of pages, I agree. "Is this how you normally get your point across?" >>> As an example: There are MANY posters that will post maybe 7 trash responses, never really answering something. Nope, not on my watch coolbreeze. You dont get to have it both ways. Slinging mud and not answering SIMPLE questions?? Besides, if someone does not like the thread topic....dont respond, skip it. Seems like an easy solution. Ken
September 18th, 2010 at 7:31:33 AM
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Quote: mrjjjYou left something out, big surprise. lol Alot of time, a poster will ask me to REPEAT the question. Granted, I press because I dont get an answer BUT some do ask me to repeat it. You left that piece of information out of your gripe. Ken
Please immediately point out the person who asked you to post in 10 different threads. Please also show where that person asked to see your post in threads that were completely unrelated to the ongoing conversations with you.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
September 18th, 2010 at 8:23:12 AM
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It might be time to learn how to use the "Ignore user" function.
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September 18th, 2010 at 10:46:19 AM
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I've been resistant to calling anyone a "troll", but if anyone fits the definition, it's jjj. He seems to delight in--well, not in arguing, since he doesn't actually ARGUE, he just gainsays everybody--how shall I put it--being a lightning rod. I gave up on trying to disabuse him of some of his sillier notions a week or so ago--I blocked him.
So many of the things he says are breathtakingly stupid, that I don't actually think he's that dumb (dumb, yes; just not THAT dumb). I think he has an ulterior motive: either he IS a troll, and delights in chaos (being a cousin to those people who plant viruses), or he is gathering "material" to help him sell a roulette "system". I think the latter is the case.
At any rate, I strongly suggest that everyone block him, for the sake of their own sanity.
So many of the things he says are breathtakingly stupid, that I don't actually think he's that dumb (dumb, yes; just not THAT dumb). I think he has an ulterior motive: either he IS a troll, and delights in chaos (being a cousin to those people who plant viruses), or he is gathering "material" to help him sell a roulette "system". I think the latter is the case.
At any rate, I strongly suggest that everyone block him, for the sake of their own sanity.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
September 18th, 2010 at 11:15:13 AM
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Many posters here just can't resist feeding the trolls.
It seems to me gamblers fall into two categories: those who have a facility with and/or respect for the mathematics of gaming, and those who play with betting systems, table charting, etc.
I do not believe the members of these groups attend the same meetings. Some of the first group (known derisively as "Math Boys" on some other boards), after a protracted streak of bad losses may have migrated to the second, perhaps feeling betrayed by the mathematics. I doubt there has been much movement in the other direction.
In any event, the rationalism of the Math Boys seems to result in an irresistible urge to enlighten the other group about the ironclad laws of probability. The Other Side (I have no catchy name for them) has no interest in these arguments, and some delight in baiting the Math Boys through prevarication. They may not understand the math, but the real point is, they don't care. They just pop back to their home board and giggle about tying the Math Boys up in knots.
You can't teach them what they don't want to learn, and we see their methods as silly, irrational, and superstitious. Don't waist your internet breath.
lol
It seems to me gamblers fall into two categories: those who have a facility with and/or respect for the mathematics of gaming, and those who play with betting systems, table charting, etc.
I do not believe the members of these groups attend the same meetings. Some of the first group (known derisively as "Math Boys" on some other boards), after a protracted streak of bad losses may have migrated to the second, perhaps feeling betrayed by the mathematics. I doubt there has been much movement in the other direction.
In any event, the rationalism of the Math Boys seems to result in an irresistible urge to enlighten the other group about the ironclad laws of probability. The Other Side (I have no catchy name for them) has no interest in these arguments, and some delight in baiting the Math Boys through prevarication. They may not understand the math, but the real point is, they don't care. They just pop back to their home board and giggle about tying the Math Boys up in knots.
You can't teach them what they don't want to learn, and we see their methods as silly, irrational, and superstitious. Don't waist your internet breath.
lol
September 18th, 2010 at 11:21:26 AM
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Quote: CalderIn any event, the rationalism of the Math Boys seems to result in an irresistible urge to enlighten the other group about the ironclad laws of probability. The Other Side (I have no catchy name for them) has no interest in these arguments, and some delight in baiting the Math Boys through prevarication. They may not understand the math, but the real point is, they don't care. They just pop back to their home board and giggle about tying the Math Boys up in knots.
The entire history of human civilization can be summed up as: Rationality vs. The Idiots. The Idiots are ahead*, and they always have been. The difference between "modern" times and the past is that they aren't leading by quite as much these days--but there's still no foreseeable chance of catching them anytime soon.
*see: organized religion
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
September 18th, 2010 at 11:33:07 AM
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Quote: CalderIt seems to me gamblers fall into two categories: those who have a facility with and/or respect for the mathematics of gaming, and those who play with betting systems, table charting, etc.
They aren't mutually exclusive, you know. Some people can combine the two, and sometimes even to their advantage.
September 18th, 2010 at 12:42:44 PM
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"Please immediately point out the person who asked you to post in 10 different threads. Please also show where that person asked to see your post in threads that were completely unrelated to the ongoing conversations with you" >>> That wasn't the point. If someone says "Ken, what was your question again"? If I re-post the question, I cant be blamed for REPEATING it. Once again, some like to have it BOTH WAYS. Ken
September 18th, 2010 at 12:51:52 PM
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"not in arguing, since he doesn't actually ARGUE" >>> Very accurate. I dont ask for alot. Answer something without drifting off topic, not real tough. "to help him sell a roulette "system". I think the latter is the case" >>> In a year from now, I'll ask you if that assessment still stands, fair?
"I strongly suggest that everyone block him" >>> If it means LESS mud slinging and MORE ON TOPIC conversations, it benefits me as well. Its a win, win for everyone! Ken
"I strongly suggest that everyone block him" >>> If it means LESS mud slinging and MORE ON TOPIC conversations, it benefits me as well. Its a win, win for everyone! Ken
September 18th, 2010 at 1:18:28 PM
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mrjjj must gain something from posting at many forums. It should not matter to us what that is other than a specific answer to his question.
When he asks a question, or for that matter, any of us asks a question, let us answer his question FIRST without throwing in extra comments.
I feel, then the questions should get better followed with better answers.
We can always throw in our opinions after the question has been answered. It is so easy to say right away "that is stupid" and that actually may be the truth, but how about a specific answer to a specfic question first, then any extra comments may follow.
It would make for better reading of these longer threads and posts.
only my 1 cent
When he asks a question, or for that matter, any of us asks a question, let us answer his question FIRST without throwing in extra comments.
I feel, then the questions should get better followed with better answers.
We can always throw in our opinions after the question has been answered. It is so easy to say right away "that is stupid" and that actually may be the truth, but how about a specific answer to a specfic question first, then any extra comments may follow.
It would make for better reading of these longer threads and posts.
only my 1 cent
September 18th, 2010 at 1:28:28 PM
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Quote: guido111mrjjj must gain something from posting at many forums. It should not matter to us what that is other than a specific answer to his question.
When he asks a question, or for that matter, any of us asks a question, let us answer his question FIRST without throwing in extra comments.
I feel, then the questions should get better followed with better answers.
You haven't read very many of his ravings, have you?
EVERY thread he participates in involves a nonsensical assertion by him, then someone tries to point out the flaws in his logic, then he responds with something like the following:
"Yeah, well, there may be 38 slots on the roulette wheel, but wolverines live in Siberia, so what about THAT, huh? Lol. Lol. Lol. Lol. I'm a winner and you're not. So there, buddy. Neener neener neener. Lol."
Actually, the above isn't a perfect representation, because I didn't misspell any words.
You are unjustifiedly optimistic about getting anything meaningful or useful out of this jerk. Note that I've called him a moron in the past, and that he is, but lately, his jerkiness has begun to shine through as his paramount and defining quality.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
September 18th, 2010 at 1:36:09 PM
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"mrjjj must gain something from posting at many forums" >>> Correct. I ask the same question on other forums (10 to be exact)to get MANY different views/ideas. It is quite time consuming but worth it. I dont know it all, no body here does. The more input I get, the sharper I stay, thats what its all about.
"When he asks a question, or for that matter, any of us asks a question, let us answer his question FIRST" >>> Thank you, seems fair and a FASTER way to communicate. Ken
"When he asks a question, or for that matter, any of us asks a question, let us answer his question FIRST" >>> Thank you, seems fair and a FASTER way to communicate. Ken
September 18th, 2010 at 1:38:40 PM
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"then someone tries to point out the flaws in his logic" >>> How do you point out a flaw from a QUESTION I post? lol Also, are any of these 'flaws' just opinion or are they ALL facts? I am one of the LEAST vague of posters here. Ken
September 18th, 2010 at 2:19:44 PM
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Quote: mrjjjIf someone says "Ken, what was your question again"? If I re-post the question, I cant be blamed for REPEATING it.
Who is the someone who said that and where did that post?
September 18th, 2010 at 2:25:36 PM
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So I'm lying? lol You want me to search through hundreds of posts? A few members in the last week or so have said, THEY dont want to search through all the posts. "What was the question again Ken". So I lose if I dont post something that was asked of me and I lose if I re-post it. Geez! Ken
September 18th, 2010 at 2:29:43 PM
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OMG! So I googled roulette forums this morning (yes, I was bored). Anyway, this donkey is correct in saying he is on all of them. Not only does he back up this forum with his multiple delluded ravings, but he does the same on all the other forums too. That's why I think so many of his threads don't make sense because he replies on one board and copy and pastes his answer post into every other forum. I found the same thread titles on all of them. He is disagreed with and called a jerk pretty well everywhere. However it does seem that the more idiots that make up the total forum membership, the more respect he gets. I amazes me that people actually think they can beat roulette, but not as much as their total inability to think for themselves.
guido111, you can't answer him like that and solve the problem. When you answer him, he usually disregards the answer if it isn't the one he wants and picks on ANYONE who says that his questions are flawed. The guy is a lost cause or possibly mentally ill. How else can he say something that can be proven to be flawed and claim it is not? My favorite is his post about how he is the least vague poster here! LOL! Now that's funny!
guido111, you can't answer him like that and solve the problem. When you answer him, he usually disregards the answer if it isn't the one he wants and picks on ANYONE who says that his questions are flawed. The guy is a lost cause or possibly mentally ill. How else can he say something that can be proven to be flawed and claim it is not? My favorite is his post about how he is the least vague poster here! LOL! Now that's funny!
September 18th, 2010 at 2:40:03 PM
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"this donkey is correct in saying he is on all of them" >>> I dont follow, why would I lie about that?
"copy and pastes his answer post into every other forum. I found the same thread titles on all of them" >>> Yeah? No secrets with Ken, now what? Whats your method of choice for roulette MarieBicurie?
"he usually disregards the answer if it isn't the one he wants" >>> Wrong. Yes Ken, no Ken, I agree Ken, I dont agree Ken.....they all work. NOT answering (but arguing) is this issue. Hmmm, the definition of vague? I ask something as COMPLETE as I can and stay on topic. I answer questions to the fullest.
If I dont know something, I won't guess. Yeah, thats kind of vague. Something I should do but would take a long time.....I should make a chart for all the boards. List who answered 'A' or 'B', who tried to be in the middle. Who talks smack and does not answer at all. Not sure I want to put that amount of time into that project. Ken
"copy and pastes his answer post into every other forum. I found the same thread titles on all of them" >>> Yeah? No secrets with Ken, now what? Whats your method of choice for roulette MarieBicurie?
"he usually disregards the answer if it isn't the one he wants" >>> Wrong. Yes Ken, no Ken, I agree Ken, I dont agree Ken.....they all work. NOT answering (but arguing) is this issue. Hmmm, the definition of vague? I ask something as COMPLETE as I can and stay on topic. I answer questions to the fullest.
If I dont know something, I won't guess. Yeah, thats kind of vague. Something I should do but would take a long time.....I should make a chart for all the boards. List who answered 'A' or 'B', who tried to be in the middle. Who talks smack and does not answer at all. Not sure I want to put that amount of time into that project. Ken
September 18th, 2010 at 6:38:21 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearIt might be time to learn how to use the "Ignore user" function.
That is done. BUT, it doesn't stop the recent posts section from being blanketed by a solid wall of that user's posts. It would be great if blocked posts could also not register on that section of the forum...
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
September 18th, 2010 at 6:46:05 PM
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You cant have it both ways.
If you slam me or insult me...I'm gonna post back.
If you re-ask the same question...I'm gonna post the question again.
If you WASTE time on MY thread, not answering something...I will post the question again, waiting for an answer.
Add all that up and what do you think you have? lol Lots of pages/posts. Some people here crack me up. They post there are too many posts on the thread and are meaningless which only extends the thread. ROFL Why post that? It only extends the thread more, use your head guys, this isn't tough. Ken
If you slam me or insult me...I'm gonna post back.
If you re-ask the same question...I'm gonna post the question again.
If you WASTE time on MY thread, not answering something...I will post the question again, waiting for an answer.
Add all that up and what do you think you have? lol Lots of pages/posts. Some people here crack me up. They post there are too many posts on the thread and are meaningless which only extends the thread. ROFL Why post that? It only extends the thread more, use your head guys, this isn't tough. Ken
September 18th, 2010 at 8:28:52 PM
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Quote: mrjjjYou cant have it both ways.
If you slam me or insult me...I'm gonna post back.
If you re-ask the same question...I'm gonna post the question again.
If you WASTE time on MY thread, not answering something...I will post the question again, waiting for an answer.
Add all that up and what do you think you have? lol Lots of pages/posts. Some people here crack me up. They post there are too many posts on the thread and are meaningless which only extends the thread. ROFL Why post that? It only extends the thread more, use your head guys, this isn't tough. Ken
I think I know what you are up to.
You're after DJTeddyBear's record.
You can't trust a dog to mind your food.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:36:16 PM
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Record of what and what do I get out of it? Also, your post is now added on to this thread, its meaningless. When can I expect the 'crew' to slam you for extending the thread? Ken
September 18th, 2010 at 8:51:24 PM
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Quote: mrjjjRecord of what and what do I get out of it? Also, your post is now added on to this thread, its meaningless. When can I expect the 'crew' to slam you for extending the thread? Ken
The record for most posts.
The prize is free song writing tuition from mkl.
Your assessment of my post, as meaningless, is appreciated.
I defer to your expertise in this area.
You can't trust a dog to mind your food.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:43:30 PM
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Quote: rdw4potusThat is done. BUT, it doesn't stop the recent posts section from being blanketed by a solid wall of that user's posts. It would be great if blocked posts could also not register on that section of the forum...
That's a good feature, and should be simple to implement. Just filter the SQL query on recent posts by
WHERE username NOT IN (blocked_list)
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
September 18th, 2010 at 10:01:44 PM
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Quote: mrjjjIf you WASTE time on MY thread, not answering something...I will post the question again, waiting for an answer.
I am strongly reconsidering my free speech policy. If and when I unfortunately have to do that, I plan to ban the most nasty, annoying, and abusive members. Mrjjj, you are currently on the top of the list.
For now, consider this a warning to concentrate more on quality as opposed to quantity of posts. In particular, I have a short fuse for reposting the same crap over and over until you get a response.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
September 18th, 2010 at 10:46:01 PM
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Quote: WizardI am strongly reconsidering my free speech policy. If and when I unfortunately have to do that, I plan to ban the most nasty, annoying, and abusive members. Mrjjj, you are currently on the top of the list.
For now, consider this a warning to concentrate more on quality as opposed to quantity of posts. In particular, I have a short fuse for reposting the same crap over and over until you get a response.
Yay! I mean, contrary to any impression I may have given in a suggestion to ban Mr. Logan (before he left, though he apparently will be back), I'm very much for all opinions being represented, (wacky or repulsive as they may be considered by anyone), but somebody should probably occasionally make a call on someone being repeatedly a nuisance, or being abusive well beyond the norm.
I really expect less than 1% would fall into that category anyway. Of course, you could attract hordes of trolls at some point. Who knows, it's the Internet after all.
There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
September 18th, 2010 at 11:00:13 PM
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Quote: rxwineYay! I mean, contrary to any impression I may have given in a suggestion to ban Mr. Logan (before he left, though he apparently will be back), I'm very much for all opinions being represented, (wacky or repulsive as they may be considered by anyone), but somebody should probably occasionally make a call on someone being repeatedly a nuisance, or being abusive well beyond the norm.
I really expect less than 1% would fall into that category anyway. Of course, you could attract hordes of trolls at some point. Who knows, it's the Internet after all.
But it's not USENET, and nobody has the right to filibuster, so there's hope. It doesn't take much moderation to avoid the sort of fate that happened to newsgroups once auto-spam-bots started running.
Ultimately, it's still the Wizard's site. He's paying for the domain and the hosting plan. That means he gets to decide which bytes stay on his hard drives regardless of who wrote them. If he'd rather weed out those who divert discussion away from more productive conversations, or whose volume or tone is unseemly, that's his prerogative.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
September 19th, 2010 at 12:21:15 AM
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Quote: chookThe record for most posts.
The prize is free song writing tuition from mkl.
No way do I work that cheap.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
September 19th, 2010 at 12:22:58 AM
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Quote: mkl654321Quote: chookThe record for most posts.
The prize is free song writing tuition from mkl.
No way do I work that cheap.
When do you sleep?
You can't trust a dog to mind your food.
September 19th, 2010 at 12:29:25 AM
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Quote: chookQuote: mkl654321Quote: chookThe record for most posts.
The prize is free song writing tuition from mkl.
No way do I work that cheap.
When do you sleep?
During Obama speeches.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
September 19th, 2010 at 12:38:46 AM
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{During Obama speeches.}
My TV doesn't get Obama, I have him blocked.
My TV doesn't get Obama, I have him blocked.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 19th, 2010 at 11:25:34 AM
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Re-posting the same question, fine I understand. However (Wiz), if attacked over and over and over, you suggest I do....? I sure hope the answer is not 'ignore them'. Also, if I am asked to re-post a question, is that alright? Ken
September 19th, 2010 at 11:33:20 AM
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Quote: EvenBob{During Obama speeches.}
My TV doesn't get Obama, I have him blocked.
Is that a feature that came with the set or does your cable/satellite provider offer it? Might be worth buying stock in company that offers such a feature.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
September 19th, 2010 at 1:27:37 PM
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Quote: AZDuffmanIs that a feature that came with the set or does your cable/satellite provider offer it? Might be worth buying stock in company that offers such a feature.
Everytime Obama comes on, my TV automatically plays a rerun of 'Gilligans Island' and I take a nap.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 19th, 2010 at 1:41:29 PM
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Mr. J.'s manic posting is a nuisance. 278 posts in just two weeks!
September 19th, 2010 at 1:52:50 PM
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Some of his threads are just him talking. I guess that many people have blocked him.
September 19th, 2010 at 1:57:59 PM
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Very annoying.
September 19th, 2010 at 5:05:50 PM
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"Mr. J.'s manic posting is a nuisance. 278 posts in just two weeks" >>> I'll use this post only as an example. (from Keyser, aka Herb from VLS, aka Snowman from GG). Why would it be wrong to politely respond to this? It is in reference to me, I have the right to politely say something back. If person 'A' has the right to talk smack, then why when person 'B' responds, thats so wrong? (we'll see how many answers I get to that one. lol) Another thing that is inconsistent. I hear the talking regarding 'so many posts' but why dont I hear anything about how many NEW topics I started? Ken
September 19th, 2010 at 7:06:04 PM
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Quote: mrjjj"Mr. J.'s manic posting is a nuisance. 278 posts in just two weeks" >>> I'll use this post only as an example. (from Keyser, aka Herb from VLS, aka Snowman from GG). Why would it be wrong to politely respond to this? It is in reference to me, I have the right to politely say something back. If person 'A' has the right to talk smack, then why when person 'B' responds, thats so wrong? (we'll see how many answers I get to that one. lol) Another thing that is inconsistent. I hear the talking regarding 'so many posts' but why dont I hear anything about how many NEW topics I started? Ken
lol lol lol lol lol lol
Mr. jerk jerk jerk has actually only started one thread--the same one, that is, under 13 different titles: I KIN BEET ROOLET.
And he apparently doesn't even realize what is wrong with cutting and pasting the same response to a dozen different threads. Really. It's possible he doesn't have a clue that it is rude and discourteous to vomit huge amounts of nonsense onto message boards.
The worst part is, he doesn't seem to realize that ain't NOBODY here gonna buy his Sure E-Z Win Roolet System.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
September 19th, 2010 at 9:42:59 PM
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Quote: AZDuffmanIs that a feature that came with the set or does your cable/satellite provider offer it? Might be worth buying stock in company that offers such a feature.
LOL.
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You want the truth! You can't handle the truth!
September 22nd, 2010 at 4:12:02 PM
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"he doesn't seem to realize that ain't NOBODY here gonna buy his Sure E-Z Win Roolet System" >>> Not sure what you mean mkl654321? I'm not selling anything. Ken
September 22nd, 2010 at 4:14:17 PM
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@Keyser (or anyone), still waiting >> "Mr. J.'s manic posting is a nuisance. 278 posts in just two weeks" >>> I'll use this post only as an example. (from Keyser, aka Herb from VLS, aka Snowman from GG). Why would it be wrong to politely respond to this? It is in reference to me, I have the right to politely say something back. If person 'A' has the right to talk smack, then why when person 'B' responds, thats so wrong? (we'll see how many answers I get to that one. lol) Another thing that is inconsistent. I hear the talking regarding 'so many posts' but why dont I hear anything about how many NEW topics I started? Ken
