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December 19th, 2011 at 10:38:08 AM permalink
You might consider writing a letter of complaint to the Gaming Control Board about it yourself.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
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December 19th, 2011 at 12:28:50 PM permalink
I am reminded of what a girl once said to me in Mexico (about 20 years ago). We were told by a salesgirl that we could go to lunch at this time-share and we didn't have to sit for the presentation, that it was sufficient to simply see the place and decide for ourselves.

After we went on the bus to the time-share they began their two hour presentation. When we complained and said that is not we were told, the girl said "Did you think you were going to get something for free? You shouldn't have believed the girl.

It's practical advice.
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December 19th, 2011 at 1:50:03 PM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

Did you think you were going to get something for free? ...It's practical advice.



Personally, because of this sort of thing, I am quite allergic to "free" offers. It has made me very slow to get on to the "comp" idea. Not that I earn much in comps the way I play. In any case you can be sure I won't be found at a free lunch for time shares etc, no matter how reassuring someone is that there is no hard sell.
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December 20th, 2011 at 3:15:57 AM permalink
Thanks for all of the info. We can scratch that casino off of the list.
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December 20th, 2011 at 3:16:36 AM permalink
Thanks for all of the info. We can scratch that casino off of the list.
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December 20th, 2011 at 4:44:54 AM permalink
I time-share's "free lunch" may be the most expensive meal you'll ever have in your entire life depending upon just how well you can resist a salesman and the attractive young shills that are often planted in the audience.

Even the various "comps" systems in Vegas casinos are indeed entangling alliances meant to ensnare you into a false sense of "loyalty" to a particular casino. Its nice to obtain a sort of rebate as a reward but it should never become an overwhelming influence on your behavior. Sort of a "never eat at a free lunch unless you are hungry" policy.

Hooters has been crossed off the poster's prospective list. This forum has done its job. Of course it can be said that the executives at Hooters that instituted and maintained the practices there did their job too. They just didn't do it well. And they are reaping the rewards of their job performance. If Hooters had been more honest and straightforward with their customers perhaps they would have been a more oft-visited casino. Hooters executives had the capacity to make a choice and seem to have forgotten that the public has the capacity to make choices also.
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December 20th, 2011 at 8:40:13 AM permalink
I just did the $200 promo, and I enjoyed it. I'll take the contrary position: Yes, the expected value is low, but it is fun to pay slots for 10 minutes. Unlike Casino Royale's promotion, which I think is worse, it is not "jackpot or nothing" on the machines; you can increase your credits by hitting minor awards. Sure, the prizes suck, but it is better than nothing.

I was impressed by Hooter's as a property and think they do a lot of things well. They have a decent (okay, barely so) promotion where you can earn some free gear for earning points after signing up. Got a t-shirt and hat. Played single-deck blackjack with a Hooter's girl for 15 minutes. Won $55. Plus, I kinda like that faux-wood decor. I would recommend a visit to hooters.
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December 20th, 2011 at 8:48:50 AM permalink
I wouldn't cross the casino off the list only because of this. It is otherwise a good value. Not to mention Hooters girls dealing 3-2 single-deck blackjack.
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December 20th, 2011 at 8:49:29 AM permalink
Quote: teddys

I just did the $200 promo, and I enjoyed it. I'll take the contrary position



I'm thinking high expectations getting crushed are largely the problem. Presumably yours were lowered, and that was a good thing.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
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December 20th, 2011 at 9:45:36 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I wouldn't cross the casino off the list only because of this. It is otherwise a good value. Not to mention Hooters girls dealing 3-2 single-deck blackjack.



Good point! Two years ago if you wanted to play a game with reasonable odds the dealer wore long underwear (I'm not kiiding). Now you can play decent odds against a Hooter girl.

Logically a casino can only afford to spend so much "expected loss" on a cold contact who did nothing more than walk into your place and sign up
If you give a $5 match play on blackjack, then you are spending $2.50, but at least you know the person is willing to sit down at a table
If you give a "free spin" then the expected value is probably less than $2
If you give $40 on regular machines with an expected loss of 5% then it is $2
If you give $300 it had better be on machines with a very low expected value (about 1%) so that the casino's expected loss per customer is $2

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